Serial Killer Round 70: Soviet Submarine Slaughter!

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Armadox

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I rolled Chaotic Neutral this round. I was not helping the killer, nor did I make the alt account. Kill Frappe before EvilRoy, I think it'll change the dynamic of the game and give you a better chance at winning. Frappe is devious this turn.
 

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@Demagogue: I also voted for Roy, so either

a) snekadid didn't get one of the votes.
b) Trickster did use his ability...which shouldn't be possible two rounds in a row.
c) One of us is lying.

Either way, I will be voting for Roy again. And again. And again. So MAYBE, if any of you actually want to not let the killer do as he wants, all of you should vote for Roy as well, or the Killer+Lawyer+Doppelgänger will be controlling the vote for the rest of the game. Just a thought.

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Armadox said:
I rolled Chaotic Neutral this round. I was not helping the killer, nor did I make the alt account. Kill Frappe before EvilRoy, I think it'll change the dynamic of the game and give you a better chance at winning. Frappe is devious this turn.
His logic has been utter bullshit this game.
 

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Demagogue said:
Killer, Lawyer, Doppleganger, Frappe (assuming he's not one of those three), and Armadox himself. There are his 5 votes.



@DJ: Ahaha... no... that would be like trying to figure out EVE economics. It is do-able, but I don't have enough invested into the games to care... lol Last time I did something like that for an MMO it was the launch of Starwars Galaxies.
If that type of coordination is because someone switched sides, I figured it'd be Frappe who jumped at the chance.
And so much for keeping you distracted, Demagogue. Though now that I think about it that'd be a bad idea. And it's not like it would benefit me in any way. When I do play E:D I go bounty hunting.
 

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Fat_Hippo said:
@Demagogue: I also voted for Roy, so either

a) snekadid didn't get one of the votes.
b) Trickster did use his ability...which shouldn't be possible two rounds in a row.
c) One of us is lying.

Either way, I will be voting for Roy again. And again. And again. So MAYBE, if any of you actually want to not let the killer do as he wants, all of you should vote for Roy as well, or the Killer+Lawyer+Doppelgänger will be controlling the vote for the rest of the game. Just a thought.
Well one person didn't vote at all. I count 14 votes and I believe we had 15 alive.

But there is a reason to go for Roy over Frappe anyways, I'm pretty sure 4 of us voted for Roy. If that's the case the killer stole from Roy and voted for me. He can't steal from Roy again or send the two votes to me again.

Edit: Trickster not killer
 

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Dying_Jester said:
If that type of coordination is because someone switched sides, I figured it'd be Frappe who jumped at the chance.
And so much for keeping you distracted, Demagogue. Though now that I think about it that'd be a bad idea. And it's not like it would benefit me in any way. When I do play E:D I go bounty hunting.
Why would you want to distract me...? That seems detrimental to our case.

I would play E:D, but I didn't want to pay $60 bucks to play essentially EVE... I'd just go and re-sub to EVE for that. :p
 

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The voting has been really weird this round.

So the question is if some people who claim to want Roy dead are just playing around...

I can tell you that I didn't vote for him, at least. I'm just not convinced, that's all.
Though I forgot who I voted for...
 

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Demagogue said:
Why would you want to distract me...? That seems detrimental to our case.

I would play E:D, but I didn't want to pay $60 bucks to play essentially EVE... I'd just go and re-sub to EVE for that. :p
As I said, looking back, distracting you is of no benefit to me.

Also, the first paid expansion is coming out...either late this your or early next, can't remember because I bought the lifetime pass and just need to get on everyone once in awhile to see what's new....
...What was I saying...oh right, well it'll be below $60 soon enough, not that that means much, since I definitely recommend getting a HOTAS to use with it. So fun.

And think of it like this, I've no clue how I would convince someone to try this game, so just listen to a podcast called Lave Radio.

Also, kill Roy, and then Frappe.
 

Armadox

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Guys, I know you want to witch hunt Roy, and I respect that. But take out Frappe first. Frappe is a paladin in nature. Evil isn't his nature, which is why his decisions and stuff has been so off. He's been turned and fighting it, the penancing ragamuffin. Someone made Frappe the lawyer...
 

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Armadox said:
Guys, I know you want to witch hunt Roy, and I respect that. But take out Frappe first. Frappe is a paladin in nature. Evil isn't his nature, which is why his decisions and stuff has been so off. He's been turned and fighting it, the penancing ragamuffin. Someone made Frappe the lawyer...
Trickster likely can't steal from Roy again though. And since the trickster seems less than helpful we should account for that.

If we vote Frappe then we lose our chance to be free of his meddling on Roy and he may just steal a vote from us trying to off Frappe
 

Armadox

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Frappe, your death speech should start,"...and I woud have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for that meddling Armadox..."
 

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Secondhand Revenant said:
Armadox said:
Guys, I know you want to witch hunt Roy, and I respect that. But take out Frappe first. Frappe is a paladin in nature. Evil isn't his nature, which is why his decisions and stuff has been so off. He's been turned and fighting it, the penancing ragamuffin. Someone made Frappe the lawyer...
Trickster likely can't steal from Roy again though. And since the trickster seems less than helpful we should account for that.

If we vote Frappe then we lose our chance to be free of his meddling on Roy and he may just steal a vote from us trying to off Frappe
God knows I hate to be the voice of reason, but ya'll gots a problem here. The last two cycles more people claimed to have voted for me than actually did, so it can't have been the trickster both times. So I think your problem is less "Roy needs to die" and more "which one of you is the bullshitter, and why".
 

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EvilRoy said:
Secondhand Revenant said:
Armadox said:
Guys, I know you want to witch hunt Roy, and I respect that. But take out Frappe first. Frappe is a paladin in nature. Evil isn't his nature, which is why his decisions and stuff has been so off. He's been turned and fighting it, the penancing ragamuffin. Someone made Frappe the lawyer...
Trickster likely can't steal from Roy again though. And since the trickster seems less than helpful we should account for that.

If we vote Frappe then we lose our chance to be free of his meddling on Roy and he may just steal a vote from us trying to off Frappe
God knows I hate to be the voice of reason, but ya'll gots a problem here. The last two cycles more people claimed to have voted for me than actually did, so it can't have been the trickster both times. So I think your problem is less "Roy needs to die" and more "which one of you is the bullshitter, and why".
What did you do to get yourself threatened again? I hadn't been paying attention...
 

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@Armadox:
He didn't die round one, then didn't die round two... we really only have circumstantial evidence.
 

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@Frappe:

1. I'm targeting the same person as Revenant, and see little reason to parrot everything he says. If I'm not disagreeing while voting for the same person, you may take it as silent agreement. The same goes for everything gritch and Demagogue have said on our suspicions of Roy.
2. I have very well been providing my own reasoning at various stages, and if you don't agree with it, that's your prerogative, but I've sure as hell had better reasons for my votes than any of yours have had so far, whether my suspicions turn out to be correct or not.

Also, I would like to point out something highly problematic with your targeting of Armadox. You supposedly voted for him because he can always "be on the side of evil." Does that mean you're going to be voting for him every single future round of SK, on the basis of absolutely nothing like proof, or even solid reasons for suspicion, because he has been evil in the past? Because if so, you're directly contradicting your own code of not targeting specific players over several rounds. That doesn't add up. At all.
 

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EvilRoy said:
Secondhand Revenant said:
Armadox said:
Guys, I know you want to witch hunt Roy, and I respect that. But take out Frappe first. Frappe is a paladin in nature. Evil isn't his nature, which is why his decisions and stuff has been so off. He's been turned and fighting it, the penancing ragamuffin. Someone made Frappe the lawyer...
Trickster likely can't steal from Roy again though. And since the trickster seems less than helpful we should account for that.

If we vote Frappe then we lose our chance to be free of his meddling on Roy and he may just steal a vote from us trying to off Frappe
God knows I hate to be the voice of reason, but ya'll gots a problem here. The last two cycles more people claimed to have voted for me than actually did, so it can't have been the trickster both times. So I think your problem is less "Roy needs to die" and more "which one of you is the bullshitter, and why".
That's true. I think. I had been wrong counting Crysan so I need to double check...
 

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@Armysox

Basically Gritch had a hate boner for me cycle one, and then the killer and lawyer didn't vote for me, so I must therefore be the killer. This has slowly snowballed as I have gone from 'killer that gets immediately executed' to 'Machiavellian genius, manipulating everyone except the sane few into not voting for me'. At no point has anyone considered that way back in the day, even the killer was like 'no that reasoning is bullshit, I'm not going to get caught voting for this guy'.
 

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EvilRoy said:
@Armysox

Basically Gritch had a hate boner for me cycle one, and then the killer and lawyer didn't vote for me, so I must therefore be the killer. This has slowly snowballed as I have gone from 'killer that gets immediately executed' to 'Machiavellian genius, manipulating everyone except the sane few into not voting for me'. At no point has anyone considered that way back in the day, even the killer was like 'no that reasoning is bullshit, I'm not going to get caught voting for this guy'.
You're conveniently leaving out the part where if we assume the killer and lawyer would vote together first round they probably voted together for DJCF based on 2 of the pairs who voted together having one member die and one presumably being the trickster voting alone

And that you were one of the people absent right up until snekadid said the killer finally responded.
 

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Secondhand Revenant said:
You're conveniently leaving out the part where if we assume the killer and lawyer would vote together first round they probably voted together
Right, unless the killer/lawyer had played before and knew that being one of the people voting for the person executed in a low vote round would get them listed as suspects. And then hounded for cycles afterwards :/

And that you were one of the people absent right up until snekadid said the killer finally responded.
Yeah, one of. And one that shares a schedule reasonably similar to snekadid and everyone else on earth who works in an office with a field component.
 

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Caramel Frappe said:
Besides that, I am not against you guys going for Roy as long as your evidence is legit (as Revenant has done). I'm just against the bandwagon effect of people joining in because 'everyone else is doing it so why not?' gig.
Wait, so do you recognize the evidence as legit or don't you? You refused to vote for Roy on the basis that everyone else was already doing it? What are you, the hipster of lynch mobs?