Series that has gone downhill for you?

[Nostalgia]

The series went downhill for me when they shat all over Sumas as a character. In brawl they made her a woman with a whip, a skin tight costume and an overly sexy voice. She doesn't look like a bounty hunter anymore. Just a bit of a slut.

Twilight Princess was fun but there is no way they're going to be able to tie in all the plots of Zelda sufficiently. It just too much of a mess now. The series goes slightly downhill everytime they make a god damned cell shaded game.

And so she suffers what every other female in gaming has become. However, she's no where near as bad as the rule though, but just because of this doesn't mean she must be gender neutral or be close enough to a man as possible. That's just as bad of an insult.

The question is: do they need to be? I know the LoZ continuity is argued a lot, but besides for discussion, I don't see how it's too important. It's based off legend, reoccuring symbolism, and the use alternate timelines and alternate dimensions. It's possibly too hard to even formulate a timeline anymore without making it complex as all hell, but at this point, the games are nicely tied in with eachother enough to keep the general legend and atmosphere intact, with direct sequels here and there, and not straying from the formula.

Placing too much emphasis is often a limitation to what you can do with it. I don't think they were ever meant to be a sequel based storyline like most franchises are.

Also, expect cel-shaded games on the handhelds due to hardware. I'm skeptic about Spirit Tracks too, but cel-shading itself isn't a sin.

 

[LordSnakeEyes]

Personnaly, I think Every game with a sequel gets worst with time.

I know it happens a lot but sometimes they actually improve the sequel from the original or at least make it equally as epic... But then again sometimes the next sequel after that they screw it up

Have You Ever Played The Shadow Hearts Series by Any Chance? Sound like you're quoting from experience.

 

[Kstreitenfeld]

Personnaly, I think Every game with a sequel gets worst with time.

I know it happens a lot but sometimes they actually improve the sequel from the original or at least make it equally as epic... But then again sometimes the next sequel after that they screw it up

Have You Ever Played The Shadow Hearts Series by Any Chance? Sound like you're quoting from experience.

Never played Shadow Hearts, but it has happened to many series that I have played

 

[Valiance]

It's not the fact it's cell shaded, its the qualty of the cell shaded games they make. Too short, too easy, too much overworld travelling via boat... and now train apparently... I thought the game had a relatively medieval setting but obviously not...

Phantom hourglass had you with a steamboat. It occurred to me when I saw it "What next?" And trains is apparently it.

And so she suffers what every other female in gaming has become. However, she's no where near as bad as the rule though, but just because of this doesn't mean she must be gender neutral or be close enough to a man as possible. That's just as bad of an insult.

She has been depicted without her suit in the first game, and without her suit at the end of Metroid Prime (if you get the 100% ending).

Honestly, I didn't even think about the gender until I used the Justin Bailey cheat in the first game and I thought it was an alternate character - not Samus without her suit.

She was just as cute, attractive, sexy, whatever the hell, with the badass Chozo Varia-suit.

And her final smash just plain doesn't make sense, and...ugh. Honestly, I liked her being genderless because it doesn't matter. How would you want girls to be depicted in games? She isn't "as close enough to a man as possible." She's just being used as a marketing ploy of having a "girl who kicks ass" instead of a "character who kicks ass" now.

And I disagree with that, because characters who are awesome don't have to mention anything about their genitalia because it has no effect whatsoever on their combat skill.

 

[Christemo]

Personnaly, I think Every game with a sequel gets worst with time.

are u on drugs?

many sequels are better than the original. GoW 2 and halo 3, just to name a few.

 

[Nostalgia]

And so she suffers what every other female in gaming has become. However, she's no where near as bad as the rule though, but just because of this doesn't mean she must be gender neutral or be close enough to a man as possible. That's just as bad of an insult.

She has been depicted without her suit in the first game, and without her suit at the end of Metroid Prime (if you get the 100% ending).

Honestly, I didn't even think about the gender until I used the Justin Bailey cheat in the first game and I thought it was an alternate character - not Samus without her suit.

She was just as cute, attractive, sexy, whatever the hell, with the badass Chozo Varia-suit.

And her final smash just plain doesn't make sense, and...ugh. Honestly, I liked her being genderless because it doesn't matter. How would you want girls to be depicted in games? She isn't "as close enough to a man as possible." She's just being used as a marketing ploy of having a "girl who kicks ass" instead of a "character who kicks ass" now.

And I disagree with that, because characters who are awesome don't have to mention anything about their genitalia because it has no effect whatsoever on their combat skill.

Fine. You have me there.
Too late to delete my post now, and there goes my argument.

Guess I had to screw up at some point.

 

[The_Deleted]

Medal of Honour for me.
Up until Frontline on the PS2 it was an awesome series. But it's become more and more pointless with games like CoD et al.

 

[hero in flames]

GTA... went from mindless fun...to dull crap

 

[Gruthar]

My list pretty closely resembles Valiance's. I do have a few additions off the top of my head:

Deus Ex
Combat Flight Sim (woooo, niche gamer!)

 

[The DSM]

Spyro, first 3 where awesome, rest where terrible.

 

[veloper]

Series gone down hill: almost every single one of them, past number II

Going beyond number II appears to be an invitation for disaster.


Easier to list which series have NOT gone down hill:

- Warcraft, but only if we don't count WoW
- Civilization, if we don't count the new colonization or Revolution
- Total War, arguably. The high point was the first Medieval Total War, but it's open to debate
- Warlords, if you don't count the battlecry games
- Age of Wonders
/ a case can be made for Thief 3, but the majority would disagree anyway.

That's the complete list of good series that haven't been ruined yet.

 

[GonzoGamer]

Grand Theft Auto went down after GTA3.
GTA3 was just stealing cars, doing missions and killing people. Thats it.

The new ones are turning more like a violent version of The Sims. going to the gym, buying food, buying property, clothes, modifying your car. all these things just distract from what the game should be.

I thought Vice City was pretty good, but I agree that the more recent ones need to be more like GTA3. Think it started going downhill with San Andreas and carried on from there.

You must've loved GTA4. That was so bare bones I think it had less distractions than even GTA3.

I loved 3, Vice, & San Andreas but 4 barely had anything beyond the main story missions: not even rampages.

I actually really liked San Andreas with all the extra missions (Pimp Missions? that was hilarious) and customization. It wasn't like you HAD to do any of that stuff. It was all optional. So why the hell complain about that?

 

[Instant K4rma]

The Zelda series. OoT and Link to the Past were amazing, then Majora's Mask and Windwaker decide to roll around and butcher the series. At least Twilight Princess made an attempt to recover it. Long live OoT!

 

[AdmiralWolverineLightningbolt]

The Zelda series. OoT and Link to the Past were amazing, then Majora's Mask and Windwaker decide to roll around and butcher the series. At least Twilight Princess made an attempt to recover it. Long live OoT!

i agree the zelda series
but to say majora's mask and wind waker butchered the series is just ridiculous
they were just the only console games that weren't remakes with slight tweaks of the same game again and again and are the best 2 games in the series (though twilight princess is joint second)

anyway, the series has been butchered because of the release of phantom hourglass and the announcement of spirit tracks - all before even any footage of a new wii game

and when said wii game comes (if it doesnt become the new duke nukem forever) then it will blatantly be casual crap to appeal to soccer mums and have a ridiculous redundant multiplayer mode so that they can play with their 6 yr old son frederick

 

[Breaker deGodot]

Besides Sonic, Final Fantasy. I thought 9 was the best in the series, but 10 and beyond just sucked all ass.

 

[sadpolice]

Sonic, Everything that came out of the megadrive was ace, but after that it went bad.

 

[SoonerMatt]

Sonic
Final Fantasy
Smash Bros
Time Splitters

 

[Ben Legend]

probably guitar hero

your not rock band! stop copying it!

Buy this man a drink.

Apparantly, we'll soon have DJ Hero, and Keyboard Hero... will it never stop,
we'll have saxophone hero next.

 

[0z0wen]

Number 1 game that went down hill was call of duty 3 to call of duty 4 I hated number 4

 

[Voicuboyy]

prince of persia.. i feel like crying now...