Seriously, America?

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Doug

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johnman said:
Stop all the secrecy and lies? Did the Bush adminastartion have hundreds of those? apparently 1 in 3 americans belive 9/11 was an inside job and they are complaining about secreats and lies under Obama?
WTF?
Same as apparently 1 in 2 Americans believe their never was a moon landing; to me, Americans as a people seem to be overly gulible. I don't know how that happened, as the English are overly cynical, and Americans started off as English colonists...or was it religious extremists? My early American history is abit fussy.
 
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jacobschndr said:
Is shit like this that makes me embarassed to be an American...and white.
That's a really terrible thing to say and feel, Mr. Schneider. Hating yourself for things you didn't choose and can't change is no better than hating others for the same reason. I hope you're just joking and that you haven't really internalized an idea like this, but the things we say find their way into our beliefs if we say them enough.

Back to the subject at hand:

One thing that bothers me about any of the political debates right now is that everybody thinks any change that comes about must be permanent. Why not try national healthcare for a while and if it doesn't work, dismantle it again? Why not raise taxes while we need money and *gasp* lower them when we don't need it later. And for God's sake why not disband the useless Department of Homeland Security?

We know part of the why is that organizations acquire a certain amount of inertia and that once you build a new government agency the staffer's butts start putting roots down into those swivel chairs and all of a sudden that's not just a waste of tax money! Oh no! Those right there are jobs, man! Real, live, American, public service jobs! How can you put all those Homeland Security workers out on the street?

Any politician who has the guts to see waste and call for its abolition is my hero. Any politician who can do the same in his own district I'd nominate for sainthood.
 

j0z

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Have you guys ever heard of freedom of assembly? It is in our constitution. We Americans can congregate anything we want, and as long as it is peaceful, the government can do little to stop us.
Americans were voicing their opinions on taxes and government waste and policy. That does not make them morons. I might not completely agree with those people, but I respect their rights.
 

asinann

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And what's sad is that most of the people that have been conned into protesting national health care would benefit the most from it. The rich have manipulated the poor into fighting the rich person's fight for them.
 

pirateninj4

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curtj5 said:
Oh goody a bunch of ignorant nerds who play games all day and then watch CNN headline news for 5 minutes and think they have any clue what-so-ever about the world outside.

You little ignorant idiots calling these protesters "dumb" etc. is extremely fucking laughable and I think you're a bunch of morons.
Wow, you're a big tough manly man coming onto our nerdy forums and making a onetime post that's abusive and ignorant. If you're going to be so staunch and awesome, maybe you should point out why we're all so moronic and why you're better than us?

Oh that's right, because you can't.

OT: These people believe that what they are doing is right...the bad news is that it's not helping, but the good news is that if they ever find a way to get better education started, all that energy might be directed more positively.
 

FinalGamer

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I think occasionally Britain does have a rather patronising look upon Americans.

This would be better avoided if you spelt Colour properly.
 

J474

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Someone actually, honestly said in all seriousness that "fascism is a form of socialism".
I think I'm just going to curl up here and die now... :'\
 

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FinalGamer said:
I think occasionally Britain does have a rather patronising look upon Americans.

This would be better avoided if you spelt Colour properly.
They actually do spell it correctly.

Anywho, I get the impression that America has the same sort of proportions of nutters and uninformed people as any other country but they tend to get more screentime. We have crazy people too but they don't often gather together in large numbers and get interviewed by the press.
 

DirkGently

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DasMark said:
As a Canadian, yes.

I work at a hotel and you have no idea how many American customers will correct me that it's "soda", not "pop", and oh by the way do we take MasterCard up here?

Yes, sir, we have electricity, phone lines and banks up here too.
Do you realise that it's entirely possible for a store to not accept a line of credit? And it's a habitual question left over from the days when it was really common for a store to only accept MasterCard or Amex or Visa but not all of them? Don't be ready to be such a condescending prick.
 

CrysisMcGee

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It takes on to know one, because I've had thoughts like this myself. Protesting something I was misinformed about, or didn't understand.



Also one thing about health care. Medicare and Medicaid ALREADY cost the U.S. Government over a trillion dollars a year. That's one of the reasons why Obama is trying to reform it. The U.S. is more than 400 billion over budget a year.

Many people rely on Medicare and Medicaid, as they can't get any other form of health insurance.

As bad as some might say it is, I'm just glad John Mcaine didn't win. Like we need another George bush. Also there's a reason why the president is only 1/3 of the government. So one person doesn't have too much power and screw everything up.

And you can blame all the misinformation you, and these people get, to the media.

As for communism, it seems to work for the Chinese. They have the highest Number of exports versus number of imports, and we keep borrowing money from them.

My favorite quote from the film. "Facism, socialism, communism. These things are apparently interchangeable if you don't know what they mean."

Also one last thin, and please remember this. Don't be a sheep. Think for yourself. If you hear something, look it up. Make sure it's true before you go off protesting.
 

Noname55

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If a Canadian ever complains about the USA usually mentioning Quebec will shut them up, unless they themselves are from Quebec of course.
 

VanityGirl

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If this video how to be brought to the American's on this sight's attention, then obviously we're not all like that. That's ridiculous.
I'd also like to point out that not every American is an idiot.
I've been to more countries than most people will ever see in their lives and I think I'm pretty well cultured.

Why does it always have to be something America does?
I have had Norwegian friends who've asked me stupid stuff about my country, and yet I don't say "Oh my god, you ignorant and stupid bastards."

I'm quite honestly getting tired of the sterotype that all Americans are stupid idiots who have never been anywhere outside of America or who have never took time to study anything about the world. I think this sterotype is what gives the US and other countries so much separation!

Another thing, don't think I'm being a stark nationalist, but as long as people continue to come to America in hopes of a new life, I say that we're doing ok. I think people still forget that for all of our flaws, we're still a country of opportunity.
 

Nmil-ek

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Good god I'm not even from the same country but those people make me ashamed ot even be fuckin white, yeah no one is oppressed like fat, well off, well fed, cushy jobed white Americans right?
 

yankeefan19

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I did have a laugh at the guy that said "I had no Idea this was going on" and took a huge cross to Washington before he even knew what was going on.
 

Micklet

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Ah to be fair those jesus freaks are contained to america, there everywhere. And to be fair in ireland we have as many issues with the government and policies being enacted to tackle the recession, but we dont have the guts to protest. Undereducated people are unfortunatly also not confined to america. As ridiculous as this is, its really not just america, its everywhere. That said, stupid americans do sound stupider than any other nations stupid people.
 

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Akai Shizuku said:
This is a spit in the face to me, because I was just beginning to open my mind to the idea that Americans might actually be intelligent, empathetic people behind the laughable mess they call a government. I feel sorry for the soldiers who enlisted believing that they should protect these people.
Oh come off it. this video says fuck all about what America stands for, and if you're allowing a random youtube video to shape your beliefs about an entire country, then you're just as stupid and gullible as those protesters.

America has a volunteer army, obviously our soldiers feel that America and its people are worth protecting.
 

bug_chaser

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Not all Americans are like that, thank god. There are enough of us with brains that we elected Obama, after all. And I'm even more sickened by this sort of thing than most of you, because I hate to share any common title with those fools.
 

Malkavian

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I love america. Lulz were had.

EDIT: BTW I feel for you normal, rational, intelligent americans, that you have to be put in box with these people.
 

KoudelkaMorgan

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I'm always grateful to live in Oregon. If I lived in just about any other state, I wouldn't feel free to me myself. A quiet atheist like 99% of everyone else I know. A lot of my friends would likely be beaten for being gay/lesbian, and so on.

I never get people that think its their personal mission to make everyone behave and believe like what ever group of people happen to be in power. Cultures evolve, opinions change, and in some countries its even allowed and incouraged.

Personally I believe a lot of the suffering in the world, and the dischord could be solved with a classic phrase

Make love not war.

The whole left/right commy/fascist thing is beyond tired. Why is it always one or the other? Why is it always two parties, two candidates, Pepsi or Coke with this country?

Its a huge country, made of 50 smaller unequal countries we like to believe are united. Yet how many actual people do we get to represent us in government? Two per state and an uneven amount extra based on population. So at least we get to elect our oligarchy of megalomanical, sychpantic, doddering, twofaced, bigoted jackasses. That is small comfort.

And people wonder why voting is so low in this country. When all your choices are paid for by the same corporations and lobbyists and nothing they do will likely ever effect you personally, is it any wonder that now with this heath care issue (and the prospect of actual change) people are freaking out and spouting off the most ignorant hatemongering propoganda I've ever seen in my life?

How does allowing everyone an equal right to affordable health care a bad idea? Why is there more scare tactics than actual debate going on? Its bordering on treason the way some senators are behaving.

The government of any country is a group of people that are most famously and notably ungoverned.