Seriously, what does "Exclusive" mean to you?

[Wargamer]

Well if exclusive can mean to one console developer e.g. Nintendo, why can't it count for Microsoft who do both the xbox and PC?
So technically its still exclusive to them, in the same way animal crossing is to Nintendo.

Except I'm pretty sure I could set up a PC without using Microsoft products. There's probably a giant penguin around here handing out a disk containing the Linux OS if you look hard enough...

By contrast, if you want to play Twilight Princess, you have to own a Nintendo Console.

 

[chase211]

What I meant there is that if a game is released for PC, it's still released as a microsoft product, so it's still essentially 'exclusive' to Microsoft.

But thats not true, is the thing. Microsoft did not make money on, for example, Left for Dead on PC.

I agree with you in part then, it is technicaly considered an exclusive if the PC realese was AFTER the console realese, but not with reguard to same time realese.

 

[ranger19]

What I meant there is that if a game is released for PC, it's still released as a microsoft product, so it's still essentially 'exclusive' to Microsoft.

But thats not true, is the thing. Microsoft did not make money on, for example, Left for Dead on PC.

I agree with you in part then, it is technicaly considered an exclusive if the PC realese was AFTER the console realese, but not with reguard to same time realese.

How did Microsoft NOT make money on Left 4 Dead? I don't mean in royalties per se, but I mean that if you want to play a game that is released only on the 360 or for Games for Windows, you're going to have to pay money to get yourself a Microsoft machine. Either you have one (and thus have already paid for one) or you're going to buy one. Either way, Microsoft makes money, if indirectly, off you buying the game.

 

[Logan Westbrook]

Well, the term 'Exclusive' is best applied here as a noun.

1. A news item initially released to only one publication or broadcaster.
Gears of War is not a news item, it's a product. Thus, this is not an applicable definition.

2. An exclusive right or privilege, as to market a product.
Gears of War is on PC. Thus, the 360 does not have 'exclusive right or privilege' to market the game.

And yet, the box says otherwise.

Gears isn't a great example though, as it was only released to PC later on.

 

[Jursa]

Well the phrase PS3 exclusive usually means a game that I will never live to see.

 

[Syphonz]

if you look at all metacritic scores above 75 (a green score) for both ps3 and xbox and take out all titles released before the PS3 was realesed and look at only the exclusives (not including down loadable titles) you get these 2 lists. I left Gears of War 1 on the list despite it being realsed pre-ps3 just to make the fanboys happy. If I missed any let me know.

Xbox 360:
4 Gears of War 2006 94
7 Halo 3 2007 94
8 Gears of War 2 2008 93
14 Mass Effect 2007 91
18 Forza Motorsport 2 2007 90
23 Fable II 2008 89
42 Project Gotham Racing 4 2007 85
69 Crackdown 2007 83
74 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise 2008 82
100 Tales of Vesperia 2008 81
103 Ninja Gaiden II 2008 81
111 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation 2007 80
136 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts 2008 79
137 Naruto: The Broken Bond 2008 79
149 Blue Dragon 2007 79
151 Lost Odyssey 2008 78
153 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja 2007 78

PS3:
2 LittleBigPlanet 2008 95
5 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 2008 94
12 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction 2007 89
15 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 2007 88
16 Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2007 88
23 Resistance 2 2008 87
25 Valkyria Chronicles 2008 86
26 Resistance: Fall of Man 2006 86
43 Warhawk 2007 843
50 MotorStorm 2007 82
51 SingStar 2008 82
66 MotorStorm: Pacific Rift 2008 81
79 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue 2008 80
83 Eternal Sonata 2008 80
85 Heavenly Sword 2007 79
89 SIREN: Blood Curse 2008 78
94 Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice 2008 78
96 Ridge Racer 7 2006 78
97 Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm 2008 77
108 Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty 2008 76
109 Age of Booty 2008 76
123 Folklore 2007 75

EDIT: Its also worth noting that I didn't include same time PC realeses on the list though I did leave those that were only realesed on PC later in the year (this realy only applys to Left 4 Dead and Command and Conqure:3)

I beleive Mass Effect was released the same time on PC. why would you do exclusives since the PS3 came out? why not do them all? I've done the math on both sides. the PS3 exclusives on metascore have an average of 81.8 and the Xbox 360 has 81.4.

 

[DYin01]

Years ago, Microsoft said that Exclusive or 'Xbox Only' means 'Not available on other consoles'. This excludes the PC, because that isn't a console.

 

[Lucane]

Well if exclusive can mean to one console developer e.g. Nintendo, why can't it count for Microsoft who do both the xbox and PC?
So technically its still exclusive to them, in the same way animal crossing is to Nintendo.

I think the arguement is about Console Exclusive not Company Exclusive cuase they usually say only on Xbox 360 not only on Microsoft and likewise only on Playstation 3 and not Sony.

 

[KSarty]

What I meant there is that if a game is released for PC, it's still released as a microsoft product, so it's still essentially 'exclusive' to Microsoft.

But thats not true, is the thing. Microsoft did not make money on, for example, Left for Dead on PC.

I agree with you in part then, it is technicaly considered an exclusive if the PC realese was AFTER the console realese, but not with reguard to same time realese.

How did Microsoft NOT make money on Left 4 Dead? I don't mean in royalties per se, but I mean that if you want to play a game that is released only on the 360 or for Games for Windows, you're going to have to pay money to get yourself a Microsoft machine. Either you have one (and thus have already paid for one) or you're going to buy one. Either way, Microsoft makes money, if indirectly, off you buying the game.

But you don't need Games for Windows to play any games on your PC. Chances are you already have some form of Windows installed on your pc, so Microsoft is not making money when you buy a game for PC unless they published/developed it.

 

[MajukaRinye]

To me, ignoring most of the other discussions here? I tend to totally ignore the exclusive bit. If I want a game, I get it. Doesn't matter to me whether it's on another console. I don't feel betrayed if I see Master Chief on my friend's PC when he inhabited my XBox first. Why should I? I still got the game I wanted, at the end of the day.

But to me, exclusive just means marketing rubbish that's totally irrelevant. And a poor attempt to stop games being ported to other systems.

 

[Clemenstation]

In my experience, 'Exclusive' means "Only on our platform until a little bit later in the year, when you'll all be so distracted by shiny new toys that nobody will care anymore."

Of course, lots of companies have walked a thin line in breaking exclusivity with a suped-up version of the game (i.e. PS3 Bioshock with challenge rooms or whatever), thus delivering the double insult to original buyers of:

1) Your game is not exclusive, no matter what those old marketing items you saved say. BUT LOOK BIOSHOCK 2 COMING SOON

and

2) Your game is now subpar and, in fact, has been superseded by the version, which will now be regarded widely as the 'real', canonical version. Maybe you can hold out for a Game of the Year edition sometime.

 

[Caliostro]

I swear, these forums need to have a section exclusively [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/exclusive] dedicated to be a dictionary.

It's only exclusive so long as it doesn't come out for anything else. That's what exclusive means. If, after 1, 2 or twenty years it does come out for something else, it ceases to be exclusive.

So exclusive, by sheer definition, is a game that only exists on a single platform. If it's ported to any other platform, at any time, it ceases to be exclusive from that point onwards.

 

[JaguarWong]

I swear, these forums need to have a section exclusively [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/exclusive] dedicated to be a dictionary.

It's only exclusive so long as it doesn't come out for anything else. That's what exclusive means. If, after 1, 2 or twenty years it does come out for something else, it ceases to be exclusive.

So exclusive, by sheer definition, is a game that only exists on a single platform. If it's ported to any other platform, at any time, it ceases to be exclusive from that point onwards.

Pedant [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pedant]

 

[Clemenstation]

So exclusive, by sheer definition, is a game that only exists on a single platform. If it's ported to any other platform, at any time, it ceases to be exclusive from that point onwards.

Dictionary definitions and praxis semantics are usually not one and the same, though. And if anyone's going to test those limits, it'll be marketing types.

I think you're right in that exclusive is only a term valid for the first couple weeks of a game's release, ridin' the wave. After a while fanboys and girls just seem to chill out and/or move to the next point of partisan argument. BUT, retroactively, people still refer to exclusives:

"Halo drove Xbox sales for the win, etc etc etc etc" even though Halo came out also for the PC at a later date. At the time, however, the Halo exclusive was a fairly big deal... so that once-exclusivity still matters, no?

 

[chase211]

if you look at all metacritic scores above 75 (a green score) for both ps3 and xbox and take out all titles released before the PS3 was realesed and look at only the exclusives (not including down loadable titles) you get these 2 lists. I left Gears of War 1 on the list despite it being realsed pre-ps3 just to make the fanboys happy. If I missed any let me know.

Xbox 360:
4 Gears of War 2006 94
7 Halo 3 2007 94
8 Gears of War 2 2008 93
14 Mass Effect 2007 91
18 Forza Motorsport 2 2007 90
23 Fable II 2008 89
42 Project Gotham Racing 4 2007 85
69 Crackdown 2007 83
74 Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise 2008 82
100 Tales of Vesperia 2008 81
103 Ninja Gaiden II 2008 81
111 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation 2007 80
136 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts 2008 79
137 Naruto: The Broken Bond 2008 79
149 Blue Dragon 2007 79
151 Lost Odyssey 2008 78
153 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja 2007 78

PS3:
2 LittleBigPlanet 2008 95
5 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 2008 94
12 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction 2007 89
15 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 2007 88
16 Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2007 88
23 Resistance 2 2008 87
25 Valkyria Chronicles 2008 86
26 Resistance: Fall of Man 2006 86
43 Warhawk 2007 843
50 MotorStorm 2007 82
51 SingStar 2008 82
66 MotorStorm: Pacific Rift 2008 81
79 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue 2008 80
83 Eternal Sonata 2008 80
85 Heavenly Sword 2007 79
89 SIREN: Blood Curse 2008 78
94 Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice 2008 78
96 Ridge Racer 7 2006 78
97 Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm 2008 77
108 Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty 2008 76
109 Age of Booty 2008 76
123 Folklore 2007 75

EDIT: Its also worth noting that I didn't include same time PC realeses on the list though I did leave those that were only realesed on PC later in the year (this realy only applys to Left 4 Dead and Command and Conqure:3)

I beleive Mass Effect was released the same time on PC. why would you do exclusives since the PS3 came out? why not do them all? I've done the math on both sides. the PS3 exclusives on metascore have an average of 81.8 and the Xbox 360 has 81.4.

You could do it either way, my main reason is because if you don't do it that way then EVERY title that came out durring that first year would hafto be considered an exclusive.

 

[chase211]

What I meant there is that if a game is released for PC, it's still released as a microsoft product, so it's still essentially 'exclusive' to Microsoft.

But thats not true, is the thing. Microsoft did not make money on, for example, Left for Dead on PC.

I agree with you in part then, it is technicaly considered an exclusive if the PC realese was AFTER the console realese, but not with reguard to same time realese.

How did Microsoft NOT make money on Left 4 Dead? I don't mean in royalties per se, but I mean that if you want to play a game that is released only on the 360 or for Games for Windows, you're going to have to pay money to get yourself a Microsoft machine. Either you have one (and thus have already paid for one) or you're going to buy one. Either way, Microsoft makes money, if indirectly, off you buying the game.

But you don't need Games for Windows to play any games on your PC. Chances are you already have some form of Windows installed on your pc, so Microsoft is not making money when you buy a game for PC unless they published/developed it.

First of all, Game for Windows in a marketing campaign by microsoft, Left4Dead is not a part of this, it has nothing to do with Game 4 windows, so I will assume you just mean the fact that it is a PC game, in that regard I have no comment because your splitting hairs to the extent that you could probably successfully argue that The Coca Cola company makes money off each individual TV sale because TV watchers drink coke...the mac gamer doesnt exist so yes, pc gaming occures on windows.