Seriously, why do some guys pull this shit?

[ultrachicken]

If you have guy friends and they aren't gay. They all have a crush on you and should have gave them a chance before tossing them into that friend bin. He's pissed off because he feels betrayed that you can fall for an outsider and not somebody who stood at your side.

What utter bullshit. If you're male and you think like that, you have some problems. If you're female, you have some problematic misconceptions about males. I have female friends who I wouldn't mind getting it on with and some who imagining sex with causes revulsion, and many in between. And I detest the notion that girls have an inherent responsibility to ask all of their male friends out to "give them a chance." If they don't speak up, that's their problem, and they don't necessarily have a crush.

In short, that's a stereotype pulled out of thin air.

Ok so you won't be mad if a girl you know that knows you're crushing on her for a while just falls for some outsider just because she can. You can't tell me you won't be jelly as fuck man.

No, I wouldn't be mad. And the only way she would know I was crushing on her would be if I told her, at which point she would either have to say yes or turn me down, which I'd say is dealing with the matter fairly.

Plus I'm not saying she has to go out with ALL her male friends. She does have to give the ones that admit that they love her a legit chance or completely make it it an neutral relationship none of the in between shit.

Yes, you were saying that. You said that all of a given girl's male friends have a crush on her, and that she should give them a chance. There was no distinction between "get with ALL the guys" and "get with the guys who speak up." If that's not what you meant, fine, but understand why I thought you meant that a female should date or turn down every male she knows.

If a woman knows you're crushing on her and she's just not that into him. She better END it there completely, cover all holes or a guy is gonna think he still has a chance. When she doesn't get it through his head when she does gets a boyfriend causes problems because he thinks he been queued up to be the next lover. When he was never really in line in the first place.

Yes, if a woman has definitively been asked out by someone, she should give a definitive answer. There is no argument to be had here.

You say I'm putting shit out of the air but I've seen and been though shit like this and overall it's one of the most annoying things a person can do. Which is why I make sure I get my point across when I'm dealing with a woman I find attractive.

I would say that the stereotype of all guys wanting to fuck all the women they associate with is pulling shit out of thin air. And anecdotes do not count as conclusive evidence.

 

[MrFluffy-X]

poor little horny kid

 

[Herr Schatz]

I almost vomited when you said he didn't have a car! I can't blame you for not wanting to be with a loser like that! Next you'll be telling us his house only has one bathroom!

 

[TheDooD]

If you have guy friends and they aren't gay. They all have a crush on you and should have gave them a chance before tossing them into that friend bin. He's pissed off because he feels betrayed that you can fall for an outsider and not somebody who stood at your side.

What utter bullshit. If you're male and you think like that, you have some problems. If you're female, you have some problematic misconceptions about males. I have female friends who I wouldn't mind getting it on with and some who imagining sex with causes revulsion, and many in between. And I detest the notion that girls have an inherent responsibility to ask all of their male friends out to "give them a chance." If they don't speak up, that's their problem, and they don't necessarily have a crush.

In short, that's a stereotype pulled out of thin air.

Ok so you won't be mad if a girl you know that knows you're crushing on her for a while just falls for some outsider just because she can. You can't tell me you won't be jelly as fuck man.

No, I wouldn't be mad. And the only way she would know I was crushing on her would be if I told her, at which point she would either have to say yes or turn me down, which I'd say is dealing with the matter fairly.

Plus I'm not saying she has to go out with ALL her male friends. She does have to give the ones that admit that they love her a legit chance or completely make it it an neutral relationship none of the in between shit.

Yes, you were saying that. You said that all of a given girl's male friends have a crush on her, and that she should give them a chance. There was no distinction between "get with ALL the guys" and "get with the guys who speak up." If that's not what you meant, fine, but understand why I thought you meant that a female should date or turn down every male she knows.

If a woman knows you're crushing on her and she's just not that into him. She better END it there completely, cover all holes or a guy is gonna think he still has a chance. When she doesn't get it through his head when she does gets a boyfriend causes problems because he thinks he been queued up to be the next lover. When he was never really in line in the first place.

Yes, if a woman has definitively been asked out by someone, she should give a definitive answer. There is no argument to be had here.

You say I'm putting shit out of the air but I've seen and been though shit like this and overall it's one of the most annoying things a person can do. Which is why I make sure I get my point across when I'm dealing with a woman I find attractive.

I would say that the stereotype of all guys wanting to fuck all the women they associate with is pulling shit out of thin air. And anecdotes do not count as conclusive evidence.

The last point isn't really a stereotype when boys notice that girls are hot and sex really feels good. You can't turn off that feeling unless you become jaded to it. Which I have become and I think that nobody really should lose that feeling. The guys that end up jaded because they have had bad relationships, been used strung along and or just tired of the grind of it all.

 

[TheDooD]

If you have guy friends and they aren't gay. They all have a crush on you and should have gave them a chance before tossing them into that friend bin. He's pissed off because he feels betrayed that you can fall for an outsider and not somebody who stood at your side.

What utter bullshit. If you're male and you think like that, you have some problems. If you're female, you have some problematic misconceptions about males. I have female friends who I wouldn't mind getting it on with and some who imagining sex with causes revulsion, and many in between. And I detest the notion that girls have an inherent responsibility to ask all of their male friends out to "give them a chance." If they don't speak up, that's their problem, and they don't necessarily have a crush.

In short, that's a stereotype pulled out of thin air.

Ok so you won't be mad if a girl you know that knows you're crushing on her for a while just falls for some outsider just because she can. You can't tell me you won't be jelly as fuck man.

Plus I'm not saying she has to go out with ALL her male friends. She does have to give the ones that admit that they love her a legit chance or completely make it it an neutral relationship none of the in between shit.

If a woman knows you're crushing on her and she's just not that into him. She better END it there completely, cover all holes or a guy is gonna think he still has a chance. When she doesn't get it through his head when she does gets a boyfriend causes problems because he thinks he been queued up to be the next lover. When he was never really in line in the first place.

You say I'm putting shit out of the air but I've seen and been though shit like this and overall it's one of the most annoying things a person can do. Which is why I make sure I get my point across when I'm dealing with a woman I find attractive.

While I agree that leading people on is a bad thing, the feminist in me find the idea "She does have to give the ones that admit that they love her a legit chance or completely make it it an neutral relationship none of the in between shit." extremely offensive.

Everyone is entitled to their preferences, and just because this guy has made his feelings known doesn't mean she should feel obligated to go out with him. From what I understand of your argument, you're saying that the first guy should feel cheated that she voluntarily chose another man, which is untrue. The first guy is not entitled to her in any way, and it's pretty obvious why she has no interest in him. He completely lacks tact.

And while I can agree with you that leading people on is not a good practice, from what I've understood from the OP, she hasn't flirted with him at all, and in fact has insulted him to his face. "Leading someone on" implies that she was flirting back with him in the first place, but had no interest in dating him. Sounds to me like she wasn't leading him on, he just has a terrible talent for picking up not-so-subtle hints, and now he's trying to guilt trip her because she has this whole "free will" thing goin on.

She wasn't leading him but she sure as hell didn't close the door either. I still stand by my point if either a girl or guy is dealing with a someone and he comes out and says they loves them. They better either level up that "friend" relationship to lovers or make it a professional friendly one. Don't lead them on and don't leave him in the dark.

 

[TheRundownRabbit]

While I was reading the first part, I was like "this is natural, he likes you and wants you to date him by guilting you to date him, I used to be like that in my early high-school days", then I read on "...okay this guy is a crazy pervert and I completely take back my what I said before."

If you ignore him he will keep at it, try telling him off. I found that to be the most useful when dealing with crazy people, and that's it, he's just a crazy leech looking for sex and sympathy.

 

[FenrirsWilly]

He's a needy little b#$@^, tell him one solid final "no, not interested" and set him to ignore on whatever IM system you use.

 

[Taunta]

If you have guy friends and they aren't gay. They all have a crush on you and should have gave them a chance before tossing them into that friend bin. He's pissed off because he feels betrayed that you can fall for an outsider and not somebody who stood at your side.

What utter bullshit. If you're male and you think like that, you have some problems. If you're female, you have some problematic misconceptions about males. I have female friends who I wouldn't mind getting it on with and some who imagining sex with causes revulsion, and many in between. And I detest the notion that girls have an inherent responsibility to ask all of their male friends out to "give them a chance." If they don't speak up, that's their problem, and they don't necessarily have a crush.

In short, that's a stereotype pulled out of thin air.

Ok so you won't be mad if a girl you know that knows you're crushing on her for a while just falls for some outsider just because she can. You can't tell me you won't be jelly as fuck man.

Plus I'm not saying she has to go out with ALL her male friends. She does have to give the ones that admit that they love her a legit chance or completely make it it an neutral relationship none of the in between shit.

If a woman knows you're crushing on her and she's just not that into him. She better END it there completely, cover all holes or a guy is gonna think he still has a chance. When she doesn't get it through his head when she does gets a boyfriend causes problems because he thinks he been queued up to be the next lover. When he was never really in line in the first place.

You say I'm putting shit out of the air but I've seen and been though shit like this and overall it's one of the most annoying things a person can do. Which is why I make sure I get my point across when I'm dealing with a woman I find attractive.

While I agree that leading people on is a bad thing, the feminist in me find the idea "She does have to give the ones that admit that they love her a legit chance or completely make it it an neutral relationship none of the in between shit." extremely offensive.

Everyone is entitled to their preferences, and just because this guy has made his feelings known doesn't mean she should feel obligated to go out with him. From what I understand of your argument, you're saying that the first guy should feel cheated that she voluntarily chose another man, which is untrue. The first guy is not entitled to her in any way, and it's pretty obvious why she has no interest in him. He completely lacks tact.

And while I can agree with you that leading people on is not a good practice, from what I've understood from the OP, she hasn't flirted with him at all, and in fact has insulted him to his face. "Leading someone on" implies that she was flirting back with him in the first place, but had no interest in dating him. Sounds to me like she wasn't leading him on, he just has a terrible talent for picking up not-so-subtle hints, and now he's trying to guilt trip her because she has this whole "free will" thing goin on.

She wasn't leading him but she sure as hell didn't close the door either. I still stand by my point if either a girl or guy is dealing with a someone and he comes out and says they loves them. They better either level up that "friend" relationship to lovers or make it a professional friendly one. Don't lead them on and don't leave him in the dark.

Yeah, she kind of did.

"Dude I'm 22, I want to date someone who actually has their life together. And I've been laying it on the line for years that I wouldn't date him."

"I don't hang out with him, I've flat-out ignored him in a lot of instances, and I've shot down his offers to even hang out. I'm just sick of him thinking that he's going to "get" anywhere with me when 1) I make it pretty clear I'm not interested 2) I'm already taken and 3) I've made some pretty scathing remarks to him about the shit he says and he brushes it off or forgets it..."

That sounds like closing the door to me.

 

[Composer]

I wouldn't really hold the whole 'no job' thing against him....

 

[brainslurper]

Step 1: Walk up to him
Step 2: DRAGON SHOUT!

 

[Owen Robertson]

Well it's clear that you don't want no scrubs. See, a scrub is a guy who can't get no love from you. Hangin' out the passenger side of his best friends ride, trying to holler at you.

Seriously though, because some people have no social skills, or are just fucking self-centered cunts.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

So long story short, I've recently started dating a guy who I met and he's awesome. We always enjoy spending time together, we're getting to be very close and we have a lot in common. Everything's going great...

But one of my guy friends is straight-up being an outright ass almost. When I first mentioned that I was dating someone new his first reaction was "I'm happy that you're happy, but I know that I could make you happy too" and launches into this whole sob story about why no one hangs out with him. I'm not very close with this guy at all, but he's constantly telling me how attracted he is to me and all this other shit and he barely even knows me because any time I saw him in person he just sat in a corner and didn't talk to anyone. Just a little bit ago when he was talking to me on IM he mentioned that he was feeling really horny... Why the fuck would I want to know that?! Seriously, this guy doesn't know shit about me and yet he's making all these comments as if he could convince me to dump my boyfriend and instead date him when he doesn't have a real job and no car and constantly whines about crap...

Why do guys pull this shit?!

Edit: Yea I know not all guys are like this, just when some of them do I'm completely unable to grasp as to why they think crap like this will work in their favor.

This will sound like trolling, but if the guy is making you uncomfortable, tell him straight up and tell him to either act right or dont talk to you.

 

[Owen Robertson]

I wouldn't really hold the whole 'no job' thing against him....

Why? Because you don't have one? Jokes. Yeah economies all over the place are shithouse. Times are tough. The point she's probably making is that he doesn't seem to have any aspirations. Actually this guy sounds like a friend of mine. Anytime I bust his chops about it, he gets all "suicidey" so I tend not to bring it up anymore.
Not going to have HIS life on my conscience. Now if he were to steal from me, I could kill him...

 

[agentorange98]

Because and I'm sorry to say a good chunk of men are idiots, this particular man to the extreme as he seems to be under the misguided impression that his penis has the power to attract women instead of repel them. There's no real mystery to it, some guys are just insensetive douche monkeys with no grasp on social interactions whatsoever it's how we got the Jersey Shore

 

[Jewrean]

Because desperate loners (like me) often have no social credibility and cannot communicate like a reasonable adult beyond a computer screen. They are usually highly introverted although sometimes it's just because they are selfish and self-absorbed assholes. If he WAS genuinely happy for you then he wouldn't be trying to screw that up for you. It's possible he only sees you as an object and is just telling you what he THINKS is what you want to hear.

Although I might be trying to stereotype him as 'A loner', please keep in mind he is an individual I know very little about and I could be dead wrong.

Also keep this in mind, everyone thinks they are in the right. From his point of view he is completely justified in harassing you in this way because he doesn't see it as being an asshole.

EDIT: I'm noticing a lot of sexist comments. Keep it out of here please you bigots, by generalizing you are just as bad as the people you denounce.