Sex-ed survey given to 7th Graders

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TyrantGanado

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America (well, the education system at least) needs to remember this is not 1950 any more. If you wants to raise awareness about sex and its effects then you educate kids, not hide them away from it and pretend it doesn't exist. I was taught sex education at 10 years old and already had a good idea what was involved in it around age 7 or 8. I know people who've been having sex since they were 11. Over zealous moral guardians should be ignored and given a calender (and a copy of The God Delusion if they bring God into anything) to remind them that times-are-a-changin'

There is the whole religion-taught-in-place-of-science issue too but that's not entirely relevant here.
 

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Axolotl said:
bad rider said:
Axolotl said:
For the benefit of those living outside the US. How old is a 7th grader?
12-13, youngest person to take this was just eleven years old though. (I also outside the U.S)
That old? Wow.

I mean seriously. From the context I'd assumed that this was meaning 7 or 8 year olds.

Over here in the UK we get the first proper sex-ed about 10 and to be honest that was long after we'd all learnt everything about it.
Yeah, I learned about sex for the first time in Year 4 (not sure how old that is...suspect it's fifth grade in America, as it's the fifth year of school here) on my way to school. We were about to be taught the basic biology of it that day anyway so why not? Sex is such a fundamental part of such a key science, quite apart from anything else, it just makes sense to teach it early. By that age I definitely knew what AIDs was (roughly), and why it's a bad idea not to wear a condom.

This outrage is stupid as hell. What is it from, some fundamental smalltown rag? Knees have been well and truly jerked here.
 

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I seem to remember my mum talking to me about sex before secondary school :/.

Kids WILL figure out the sex bit on their own - and need to be informed of the consequences that aren't instinctive - STIs, how likely pregnancy is, etc.
 

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bad rider" post="18.238727.8568408 said:
So this came up in news.
Solomon reports, were "disturbed," "bewildered," and "confused" by its contents; one reportedly "hyperventilated." Solomon went on to report that Hardy parents were "outraged" and "practically in tears" over the "inappropriate" and "graphic" survey of their children.
These kids were eleven and twelve? And they were hyperventilating... over sex education? WTF this is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day--- how did these kids honestly think things worked? Magic fairies just summon babies up from nowhere I'm sure...
Even if the parents aren't willing to give their kids the sex talk, surely older kids have got them informed at least a little. I know I knew at least all of the basics when I was around 8ish probably before that even... and if id found out i wouldnt have been particularly bothered id probably have found it mildly amusing.
The whole thing sounds like these kids are being excessively wrapped in cotton wool to the point where any introduction to the real world is shocking. Some kind of pro-chastity brainwashing? >: (

Kids ought to be informed of these things... otherwise instinct will guide them towards sex but they'll have no clue when it comes to pregnancy and STIs and so on.
 

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Persi said:
Axolotl said:
For the benefit of those living outside the US. How old is a 7th grader?
11, 12, 13. Or so.
i do not se a problem here...i remember in 3ed grade we were all excited about the hot ass teacher who we MIGHT (i did) have in 5th grade...among other things that we would do to her....(normally involved boobies) i mean...you should start learning about it a little bit after..well a little bit after it works. my parents never gave me "THE TALK" which never helped...i had to learn everything from...well.."research" and it would of been much easier if it was all explained flat out. then again i was the kid who would ask because he was curisous....WHAT IF IT DOSENT FIT!!! or other things of that nature that would scare the teachers. i do rememeber in 8th grade where the teacher had to slowly explain that if one of our friends was found out to be "diffrent" (gay) that he/ she is still out friend and thats it. (awesome conversation)
 

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Pussies.

We were shown a video of a woman giving birth (face-to-fanny view) aged 8.

I'd love to know why people are so outraged about 12/13-year-olds been taught about sexual health. They know more than people give them credit for (a lot more), and some will start humping within the next couple of years anyway.
 

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when i was 12, i had alrady seen some pretty nasty pr0n videos and pics online, and knew what DP, gangbang, deepthroat and stuff like that meant, and that was 10 years ago, so given how much online porn hs gown, i would be supprised if at least half the class hadn't alrady seen enough explicit hardcore porn to make their parents want to sramble their little brains.

Why is it that some people just go insane when they become parents?
 

bad rider

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Woodsey said:
Pussies.

We were shown a video of a woman giving birth (face-to-fanny view) aged 8.
When you were born you were shown live action of it.
 

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11-13? Hah, I had my first sex ed lesson at 10 which was probably WAY more graphic than that test. We even had a video.
My first sex ed lesson was when I was 7... my dad taped over one of my Power Ranger vhs' with pay per view porn and he tried vaguely to explain it...
Ohh, premium XD
 
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What? Are you kidding me? I started sex ed in the 5th grade(mostly went over puberty and whatnot), and went into the sexual stuff in the 6th and 7th.

If I was given a survey in the 7th grade, I'm sure my class would have nervously giggled, not....hyperventilated.
 

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Axolotl said:
That old? Wow.

I mean seriously. From the context I'd assumed that this was meaning 7 or 8 year olds.

Over here in the UK we get the first proper sex-ed about 10 and to be honest that was long after we'd all learnt everything about it.
Yea, but you have to remember that the American social scene is dominated by soccer moms roughly analogous to the South Park parents in this episode:

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s08e01-good-times-with-weapons

~19:00 through the end for the specific scene(s).
 

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Woodsey said:
Pussies.

We were shown a video of a woman giving birth (face-to-fanny view) aged 8.

I'd love to know why people are so outraged about 12/13-year-olds been taught about sexual health. They know more than people give them credit for (a lot more), and some will start humping within the next couple of years anyway.
We were shown a similar video as well as labeled pictures of male and female bits... was quite funny all the still completely innocent people looked so shocked.. everyone else jus giggled >.<

I know a girl who had sex at 11... but then again she does live in Tadley
If you happen to be a girl who is 11 and thinking of having sex... don't. Its a good way to get everything permanently completely wrecked.
 

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Woodsey said:
Pussies.

We were shown a video of a woman giving birth (face-to-fanny view) aged 8.

I'd love to know why people are so outraged about 12/13-year-olds been taught about sexual health. They know more than people give them credit for (a lot more), and some will start humping within the next couple of years anyway.
I had to watch my sister being born when I was 5... I didn't think it was very magical...
 

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Why do people feel the need to start having sex, when the body parts required to have sex have barely even grown fully?
That just leads to bad sex and they won't enjoy it, so when they get older they won't want to have it and the human race will die out! :O

But seriously, I lost mine at 18 (live in UK), I've had no problems not getting pregnant and there's not really any excuses for 'accidents'. The contraceptive implant is free..all contraceptives are free(in the UK at least). If you're immature to the point that using/buying/asking for some kind of contraception is embarrassing to you, then you're too immature to be having sex in the first place.

Personally, I don't see what the rush is. It feels so much better to do it with someone you care about and who cares about you, rather than just have sex for the sake of being able to say ''I lost mah virginityz!!''
 

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I had my first puberty discussion in 5th grade, but had a more in depth sex discussion in 6th grade. I never really understood the uproar parents create when this happens. It's a fact of life, kids are gonna try to have sex at one point in time. It's best if the kids have background knowledge.
 

someonehairy-ish

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The whole 'God doesn't like condoms/other forms of contraception' bullshit is another thing that needs to stop. If God doesn't like tiny mindless sperms dying then why did he make it so that millions of them get released every time, thus ensuring that millions will die... every time. And Im sure if God particularly wanted a certain baby to be born it would be well within his power to say 'And Let Thein Condom Be Split!'
 

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bad rider said:
So this came up in news.
Yesterday, The Georgetown Dish's Beth Solomon reported on the aftermath of a sexual education survey distributed to 7th grade boys and girls at Georgetown's Hardy Middle School. Some Hardy 7th graders who took the survey last Tuesday, Solomon reports, were "disturbed," "bewildered," and "confused" by its contents; one reportedly "hyperventilated." Solomon went on to report that Hardy parents were "outraged" and "practically in tears" over the "inappropriate" and "graphic" survey of their children.

It's unclear how many families Solomon contacted for this story; all complained anonymously. But last Tuesday is hardly the first time that local 7th graders have been confronted with information about sex. The "sex test," as Solomon calls it, is an initial survey conducted as a part of Metro TeenAIDS' "Making Proud Choices!" sexual education curriculum. The curriculum is described as a "series of classes that are designed to help students avoid HIV transmission, unplanned pregnancy, alcohol, and illegal drug use," and it has been administered to students in D.C. Public Schools for seven years running.


Thats the first few paragraphs the rest is [link=http://www.tbd.com/blogs/amanda-hess/2010/10/hardy-middle-school-sex-survey-metro-teenaids-responds-3012.html]
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Those kids must have had an interesting day.
At my school we had sex ed in 7th grade and no one was shocked, or hyperventilated, and no one's parents complained. Hell, we even watch a video about sex ed and puberty which showed insertion of the penis into vagina about three times. It wasn't a slow introduction either, we learned the stuff relatively fast. For the most part the guys were excited to learn. Though, i have to point out, in the video we watched they had 11 year olds talking to teachers about masturbation, and one of them asked a teacher why guys are staring at her breasts. I found that funny.
 

Jack and Calumon

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I was given Sex Ed surveys at 10 years old. I've turned out fine.

Calumon: Jack, this sunglasses might make me look cool, but I can't see! >.<
 

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I LOL'd so hard. Especially when I hear a 7th grader say I raped your family...then they realize what rape is and puke.