Sex-ed survey given to 7th Graders

[Ensiferum]

If parents had the balls to teach their own children about sex rather then let government-funded education do it then they'd have nothing to get upset over in the first place.

 

[Lullabye]

Hyperventilated?
Uh-huh.
He was probably just spanking the monkey cause the quiz got him all hot'n bothered.

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!? THAT AREN'T COMPLETE IDIOTS!?

 

[auronvi]

Kids are fuckin. I'm not kidding. They're way too damn young, but even in 7th grade, they still want to fuck.

That's about when I started to think about it. I couldn't wait to get a BJ! lol

 

[Something Amyss]

I seem to remember my mum talking to me about sex before secondary school :/.

Kids WILL figure out the sex bit on their own - and need to be informed of the consequences that aren't instinctive - STIs, how likely pregnancy is, etc.

Yeah, the idea that if we don't tell them, they won't do it is freaking insane.

Also, I got my first sex ed courses in 5th grade, when I was ten. We're slipping backwards. It's insane (at the risk of redundancy). We didn't learn much detail. Similar to this "shocking" survey, it addressed AIDS, condoms, along with basic biology. Girls get periods, boys get wet dreams, everyone is getting hair in funny places. That's only offensive because a bunch of puritans are making it so.

 

[Firetaffer]

I've always viewed that children should learn about reproduction in general as young as possible. It should be a part of life, and believe it or not, it literally is. Let them grow up while understanding it, so it's totally natural. No awkward situations, kids are taught, they know what safe sex is.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

First, I can respect the fact that a parent might be outraged that someone else taught their kids about sex. But, if you have not decided it was time to have that little talk by the time said kit hits puberty, I'm pretty sure the parent has been so lax in their responsibility that someone ought to tell them. Your average male, once he hits puberty, will almost certainly have sex the moment the opportunity presents itself. Does such a parent really think that protecting their "innocence" is more important than protecting their physical and emotional well being for the rest of their lives?

 

[Freeze_L]

I went to a catholic grade school and a catholic high school. One thing i can say in retrospect, is that we talked about this stuff in class, and we all knew how the things worked and what could happen, what did happen, why we should wait, that we COULD wait, and that there were other options out there. We never had a formal sex-ed, and in a way we were taught "abstinence" sex-ed, but the subject was open and discussed and never got more graphic then need be.

Maybe its because we all had decent classes and great teachers who cared about us, in addition to that the whole thing now seems very carefully planned and orchestrated, they went through a lot of trouble to teach us this stuff and the realities of it. Had you asked anyone in our 5th grade class, even, what menstruation was, or how a woman could get pregnant, or what a condom was, we could all tell you. Admittedly at that point much of the stuff was simplified down, but we were explained to why things were happened and how they could be good or bad.

It's odd i think about it and i never had a sex-ed class, but it was worked into every other class, and they talked to us and taught us about it. More than just scaring us, or telling us it was bad, it was offered to us as our first big decision, that we could do this or we could not and they could not really stop us, but they told us it would be bad and there could/would be consequences for our actions. We were encouraged to control ourselves and we were told what could happen if you don't.

it was very different than what public schools seem to teach, which is: "use a condom and you'll be fine you cant help your self", which is a bit off a disgusting thing to tell anyone really. Not only do most sex-ed classes skimp on some important facts like: you can get a STD from oral sex, anal sex, and normal sex and a condom does not prevent most STDs, most STDs are transmitted through genital CONTACT, and you will have to live with your choices the rest of your life; but they tell kids that they are unable to control themselves and are only animals.

It really is a nauseating message when you think about it, and the expectations it sets. The message i was always given was "even if you slip up you can always seek forgiveness and DO BETTER and you have to OWN UP TO YOUR ACTIONS." The message given to many of my peers seems to have been "It does not matter you can't help yourself, your not really responsible." These messages pertain to so much more than sex-ed, but to the whole of public vs. private schooling, private schools hold there students up to an example and say "you are responsible for your own actions and the results of them" and public schools say "its not really your fault."

And we wonder what is wrong with schooling in America.

/monologue

I hope my writing was not too scatter-shot, i tend to write a little bit too much for posts, there is just so much to say! I do not hold to the bests of grammar and such as i really should with something this long. The Quiz itself that was given to these students, who should undoubtedly know what sex is at their age, seems a tad bit on the graphic side but more so on the cautious side. The pepole who wrote this and the school district have the best intentions but it ultimately comes down to the parents and the pepole these kids see as role-models, teachers and coaches, to give them the right message. The test is never gonna make a change in these kids lives' only the teacher can do that, and only the teacher can teach this, and only the teachers and parents are going to have influence over the actions of the children. Not some silly little test.

I don't want to discount your experience, but you did go to a Catholic Grade School and Catholic High School. You did not state where your middle school/junior high education partook, but how do you know that public schools have that mindset and are irresponsibly telling the kids that they will be irresponsible?

I went to public schools from childhood to adulthood in the liberal Mecca of the nation (San Francisco) and our sex-ed classes (known as Family Life here) were exactly as you described in your Catholic style of education.

We were taught that sex was a huge decision to make between two people, and that we were too young for that. We were taught that we should be safe, and focus on other things. In the fifth grade the teachers scared half the class away from sex via graphic photos of STDs and footage of a woman painfully giving birth. They did care about us, and though conversation occasionally went over the line because of immature students, they did curb the comments and maintained an atmosphere of honesty and maturity.

Well i did not mean to claim all public schools do this, but there are many who do, and it is rather easy to see the difference from the outside between a good sex ed class and a bad one. I think a lot of it has to do with the mind set of the community and whether or not sex is a taboo to them, in San Fransisco and other liberal areas it is much easy to talk about this stuff then a conservative community.
I really cant speak for more than the local schools here, and the ones that i know pepole from, but it seems to be on a national level this is the message given out to kids. There are exceptions as there always are, but they seem to come from small towns and other areas like San Fransisco.
Most schools just don't have good teachers and have classes that are too large for the teacher to really care about the individual student. It gives a didactic and coldly separated influence to something that is not really a "subject" but a talk on life decisions. This disconnect that naturally happens in many public schools turns into the message of "do what ever you want you cant help yourself" all to easily. This is never a message that is given when the teachers know their students and really care, but even if many teachers do, there are simply to many out there who could care less about the students.

One thing that pepole often misunderstand about Catholics is our stance on sex and sexuality. We seem to come off as uptight about sex, mainly because we try not to have it before marriage and think that it can be a bad thing to do that, but we are not really that uptight about it as pepole assume we are (we seem to get mixed up with fundamentalists [and not the good kind] far to often and blamed for what they do and believe) it is something good and natural and there is no reason to feel ashamed about it. This helped in teaching the subject to an infinite amount, it was never taught as a bad thing, but we were taught that doing it can have consequences and repercussions and that it was the best and right thing to do to wait until we were in love and married. It was honest and true, they told us the truth and did not hold it back, they told us what could and would happen in the simplest and most honest terms and i remember more than one talk to the guys about not ever pressuring a girl into it and that it was going to be hard and times to take yourself out of the situation.

There was dialogged constantly and the teachers were more than just teachers, they were pepole who could look to for help on anything anytime, this is what made my schools great. We were expected to do our best and when we failed we helped to get back up and keep going, both inside and outside of school.

 

[esperandote]

My guess is that some of them they already watched porn

 

[Kenni-chan]

Parents take this kind of thing too far, and the funny thing is these will be parents that will be too embarressed to talk about such issues with their own children.

It's the parents that had a problem with it not the kids.

I dunno....I might have been a little younger....primary 5...I'm not sure how old that, about 11 at least, people are never happy when it comes to sex ed, either kids are too young or too old or aren't getting taught what they want to know, surveys in britain have shown that teachers and schools don't properly tell the kids what they want to know or what applies to them, I can understand we can't have tailor made sex - ed, but growing up and getting a proper persecptive on it might improve the eduction.

So parents, If you don't want them to learn it at school, off the internet or from friends....Fukken teach them yourselves!!

 

[linwolf]

I am pretty sure we were told about these things when we were ten.
People in US are easily offended.