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AlexWinter said:
Anyway after my parents discovered that I wasn't sexually ignorant they threw me on some internet site which I HAD to read for two hours straight as a punishment. Teenage health or something. Mainly just loads of guys complaining about their penis size.

The internet is informative! =D
I remember my little brother had asked about sex. He´s 4 and a half years younger than me, about 10 or something at the time. So my mom asked if she could borrow my biology text-book and started reading...
I remember coming in after an hour or so, and the look of sheer horror on my brothers face has stayed with me ever since. Mom was reading about the female cycle...

I´ve often though about what dad told me, and I think that he understood that sex is learned from personal experience so he just shared the "bare necessities". I´m grateful to the old man for that.
 

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Swollen Goat said:
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As for being over-rated, I know the science behind it. Just like never hitting a tree with a car, never skydiving, never being on the moon, I know how it works.
Why is sex enjoyable? Because our brains tell us so. Why do our brains say so? Because having sex releases endorphins into your brain, causing pleasure. Is sex the only way to release those endorphins? No.

I think sex is simply the easiest way to release those endorphins, and that's why there are so many people who do it.
I mean, "Stick pole in hole and rub it around..." There's very few ways to get that wrong.
I'm not trying to be a dick here, but knowing the science behind something has absolutely no bearing on understanding something. That's like saying you know what a cake tastes like because you know how to bake one. I'm not telling you that you should change your morals or anything, but thinking you truly understand something because you've read about it just isn't true. Also, if you think sex is solely about 'pole in hole', well, no wonder you don't see the appeal.
I never said I didn't see the appeal. I personally am looking forward to the day I first have sex with my wife. It will be awesome.

I simply said it was over-rated. To re-use your cake analogy, it'd be like the culture saying "You've got to eat cake frequently. Like, eat it every day, or almost that much, or you're lame." You'd be sitting there thinking to yourself, "Um... Yeah. Cake is nice. I might eat it once in a while, but every day? Really?" Even those who've never eaten cake before, but still understand how people can like eating it, would probably find the idea of eating cake every day to be ridiculously blown out of proportion.

This culture is filled to the brim with sex: in ads, in movies, on TV, in magazines, there's the placement of sexual desire everywhere. If you replaced everything you see in the media today about sex with something about cake, you'd be like "Holy crap! Why is there all this cake everywhere? I can't go anywhere without seeing cake."

As many in this thread have said, sexual desire is different in everyone. I've never been considered "normal" in most areas. Why should I be "normal" in this one?

Also, how are you doing sex if you're not putting a pole in a hole (for various holes and poles)?
 

SinisterGehe

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Sex is action to ensure your species survival. Sex is also a primitive form of pleasure, nothing divine just flow of hormones and chemicals, nothing magical. Sex and love are not connected, sex is sex a physical action, love is primitive form of attachment to a certain person or thing.

I for myself will never have sex, I do not want to have sex.
I will never find love, I don't want to find love, neither would I find any since I do not like people.
 

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Well i guess you wont be wrong to call my attitude towards sex very liberal ;)
And i guess part of that is just because i am not one of the people of my age (25 atm) that had their first time in the early teen years. So there was no real "oh its theeeee biggest thing world and life and everything and stuff is about" it actually was a big jump from the confident fooling around at parties stage to the confident and objectively handle sexuality as it is. It can be , as stated several times a very intimate emotional thing, a token of trust and love.
Or its just, well, plain and easy fun and thats no problem if you are honest about that.
You probably dont want to propose to that cute and funy girl you met an hour ago at a punkrock show, but heck you like her, your attracted to each other, so what? Get it on. With the proper means of saftey here of course.

I think of sex in general, as a pretty normal part of human life and our modern culture.
its all around us nowadays, so it should not be a big deal really.
Of course that counts for me doubly so, as i am moving throught middle europes quite open minded goth-scene.
While personally prefer to keep it just between me and her, some place alone, I dont feel uncomfortable talking about it, why should i, or you?
And i dont feel uncomfortable in the physical presence of sexuality, that is people making out like its the last hour of their lifes,or even a dozen couples or groups of people shagging their brains out behind me, while i stand on the gallery above a dancefloor, holding a drink and having a chat with a friend of mine and his gf watching the party around us(Berlin's Clubscene is awesome ;) but i wouldnt set a foot in the hottubs).

To sum it up, its always an enjoyable experience, of course you can regret every enjoyable experience, ask me about my hangover last sunday morning...
You should always be aware that you alone are responsible for your actions and no one else, so you have to live and hande whatever results may turn out later.
And the most important thing, again, is honesty. Dont mess with people, play with your cards open on the table.
Just wait for the things to happen, and welcome them in warm embrace, when they finally do, dont press it, dont stress yourself or others.

Yeah thats it for the moment, i think.
 

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Hap2 said:
Amphoteric said:
We are all slaves to sex. Its the only reason we are here and its just our DNA's way of replicating itself. We really are nothing more than sophisticated viruses.
Not really, sexual desire varies among individuals, some people absolutely need it to live happy and healthy lives, some may do it occasionally for pleasure's sake, and there are some like myself, where it has little to no significance whatsoever.

Also, unlike viruses, we have the capability to change and alter our actions, thus influencing the consequences. Not every individual is a slave to consumption either ;)
I wan't talking about individuals. We have sex or we die out.
 

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Swollen Goat said:
AdmiralMemo said:
I never said I didn't see the appeal. I personally am looking forward to the day I first have sex with my wife. It will be awesome.

I simply said it was over-rated. To re-use your cake analogy, it'd be like the culture saying "You've got to eat cake frequently. Like, eat it every day, or almost that much, or you're lame." You'd be sitting there thinking to yourself, "Um... Yeah. Cake is nice. I might eat it once in a while, but every day? Really?" Even those who've never eaten cake before, but still understand how people can like eating it, would probably find the idea of eating cake every day to be ridiculously blown out of proportion.

This culture is filled to the brim with sex: in ads, in movies, on TV, in magazines, there's the placement of sexual desire everywhere. If you replaced everything you see in the media today about sex with something about cake, you'd be like "Holy crap! Why is there all this cake everywhere? I can't go anywhere without seeing cake."

As many in this thread have said, sexual desire is different in everyone. I've never been considered "normal" in most areas. Why should I be "normal" in this one?

Also, how are you doing sex if you're not putting a pole in a hole (for various holes and poles)?
I don't believe you really read my post. I never said you didn't see the appeal. I said you can't understand something entirely just by reading/hearing about it. Also if you'd have paid attention, you'd have seen that I said sex is not solely about 'pole in hole'. Meaning that there's more to it than that.
Now, you're denying what you said, twisting my words, and twisting your own, too. Therefore, I am done with this conversation.
 

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Swollen Goat said:
AdmiralMemo said:
Now, you're denying what you said, twisting my words, and twisting your own, too. Therefore, I am done with this conversation.
Calm down! I forgot that I put the 'not see the appeal' at the end of my post! Sorry! But if you could explain how you think I'm twisting your words, I can explain what I meant. I will say you seem awfully defensive considering I'm not attacking your position. Why do you feel that I am?
Calm down? I am quite calm and was not attacking you. I was simply stating a logical fact. I am a quite logical person. What you may see as defensive statements, I simply see as logical counter-point to the debate.

You say you're not attacking my position, yet you seem quite dismissive of my position. Therein lies a good portion of the problem between the two of us.

I see the lifetime commitment of marriage, built on a solid relationship that was built beforehand as the meal and sex as the wonderful dessert. Those who eat dessert first don't really want the meal later, and end up unhealthy.

Trust me. Sex will get old after a while. Everything does. Humans are always looking for novelty. If you save it up for marriage instead of giving it away early, it won't get old until YOU get old, and by then, you won't care.
 

Tasachan

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I believe its best to wait until you find the right person. You don't necessarily have to be married (though it is ideal) but one-night stands are just gross. You don't know who that person is, what kind of diseases they have, who else they've slept with... ick.

I grew up watching movies where the woman fell in bed with the guy like a week after they met (*ahem* dirty dancing) and when I was a teenager I acted the same. Completely regret it now, though of course if I HAD waited until we were married, I wouldn't have my kids.
 

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Father Time said:
Asuka Soryu said:
Sex is like playing a card game. "You do it on a table, and you always feel deep shame when it's finished. Also, the older you get the less fun it is. So, remember. Always wear a condom when playing card games."
That joke makes no sense.

Why should I feel shame from playing a card game?

It doesn't get less fun for me, I just progress to different card games.

First it was war and go-fish, now it's poker and blackjack (and some other card games that don't involve gambling).

You won't get the joke unless you watch, Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series.
 

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BlueberryMUNCH said:
General Studies? Actually doing work in it?! HERECY!

Err well I'm British, and I lost my virginity at 14. No regrets whatsoever.
My parents never encouraged [well, obviously, but you know what I mean], but they didn't mind that I did.
I am now 16 and have had sex with 2 different people, the 2nd being 'non-relationship'. But whatever, I have a liberal attitude towards it as long as you know that you wont regret it afterwards, you know what I mean?

So I guess I learned my 'beliefs' of sex from experience, if that answers your question? Like the guy above me kinda said, it's better to build up your own views and values.
13, I win. My parents are pretty live and let live but they always tried to keep sex from me so I went out(figuatively) and learned about it, by the time i was 11 i was the class sexpert
 

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Sex is not making love.

When you make love there is a real emotional connection between you both.

When you have sex, it feels different, it's just fun and just feels good.

The difference is difficult to describe, it's a very personal thing. It might be differnet as far as others are concerned.