Zeckt said:
OtherSideofSky said:
Biases in sexual harassment cases are bad, but they have nothing on what happens with domestic violence and rape. The degree people are willing to go to deny any evidence (and there are a mountain of peer reviewed studies showing parity) of male victims, especially male victims of women, is simply staggering. As a victim of child abuse by female social workers, I have first hand experience with just how far the "equality" in these areas extends. Far from receiving help and support, I was told to apologize to my abusers because they held me down and beat me for hours on end and sent back to endure more of their abuse for over a decade. Like it or not, feminism has played a big role in these attitudes and policies. The terminology and ideas which form the foundation of modern feminist thought originated with radical second wave groups like the Red Stockings, and those groups formed an entirely unabashed hate movement, explicitly advocating female supremacy and male disposability in addition to assaulting the early gay rights movement (on the grounds that male homosexuality represented a patriarchal reaction to feminism and an effort on the part of men to abdicate their responsibilities to support and care for women). Their ideas and creeds remain in full effect within the upper echelons of organized and academic feminism and the political influence of these people has codified parts of their toxic belief system into law (for example: as a result of arrest quotas with no relation to the actual incidence rates of abuse and "primary aggressor" laws, a man who suffers domestic abuse is more likely to be arrested than to be protected). I think it is also important to notice the resounding silence that greeted a shocking revelation last year, when a large number of prominent feminist leaders, CEOs and educators were outed for having advocated and continuing to advocate forced eugenics and the systematic murder of men behind closed doors (these allegations were supported by a body of conclusive evidence and documentation).
Man, that was a wall of text but it sure was worth the read. Men who suffer domestic abuse are more likely to get arrested then help? sick! And to Screemarie I get your point but what court do should be in the best interest of the kid, not the woman in any circumstance.
I think the problem is that women get to pick and choose what they want out of everything about what benefits men, yet get to keep everything what benefits them which WE CANNOT TOUCH!!! and THAT is not fair!
If a man suffers abuse he gets demoralized and ridiculed and even gets his masculinity into question which for some reason is like a socially accepted thing. No one ever seems to care about a man's feelings because we can be hurt emotionally and physically too. And if your a sensitive male who's emotionally hurt? its even worse. Man up, you ******! and that is awful and unfair.
This is indeed the case. Millennia of traditional society in which men were necessarily required to bare the brunt of danger and harm (this was, until relatively recently, the best available strategy for the survival of societies) have bred a culture in which the vast majority of individuals are unable or unwilling to view men as vulnerable individuals capable of pain and emotion and deserving of sympathy when victimized. For a good example of this attitude, take a look at the way people view infant circumcision and the policies pursued by the World Health Organization with regards to it as opposed to their views on any equivalent practice on females (contrary to popular belief, the extreme forms of FGM commonly presented are not the only form of the practice and are certainly not the only form prohibited by law. So-called "ritual nicks", which do far less damage than male circumcision, are subject to the same legal penalties).
In the case of domestic abuse, the US employs gendered arrest quotas which require men to be arrested for the crime at a rate five times that of women and mandatory arrest laws which require an arrest to be made when a DV report is filed and ensure that the person arrested will almost always be male, even in cases where the man simply sits there and takes the abuse without trying to defend himself. Speaking of which, women are the perpetrators in a significant majority (about 70%) of cases of one-sided DV and are slightly more likely to initiate violence in cases of reciprocal DV. They are also three times as likely to employ a weapon, accounting for the lack of any substantial differences in the degree of injuries inflicted. Studies have found no substantial gender differences in the motivations of perpetrators of domestic abuse (control, punishment, anger, etc.). When it comes to children, mothers are more than twice as likely to commit abuse as fathers (this applies to sexual abuse as well), but campaign after campaign tells us to protect "women and their children" (the Australian government recently stopped recording the sex of child abusers in order to support this policy).
When it comes to rape, the recent CDC survey, the NICVS (a comprehensive, state-funded initiative), listed the majority of rape of men by women as "other sexual violence" in order to present a biased statistic in support of current policy and possible prejudice. It's predecessor, the survey most commonly cited for US rape statistics, did not collect data on this at all (only rape by penetration was counted, whereas rape by envelopment was excluded from the definitions employed). Prison rape, which primarily effects men (women in prison appear to face a higher likelihood of rape, but they represent only a small proportion of the incarcerated population. Rape committed by female guards, who have far more unrestricted access to male prisoners than male guards have to female prisoners is almost never mentioned), is also a perennially neglected subject.
On the subject of the recent "war on contraception", the health care bill in question provides for more than 100 specialized agencies and free or subsidized treatments for women and girls (including STD treatments and several forms of cancer which are not gender specific) while offering no male equivalent (women with breast cancer get several special provisions, men with prostate cancer receive no such consideration). The issue being raised is that it may not require a small subset of employers to pay for female contraception (male contraception must be payed for out of pocket by individuals), and this is apparently an "Attack on women".
Regrettably, the proponents of the current views on these issues are not merely a few misguided ideologues, they are a large and wealthy industry of professional activists who have made their fame and fortune by capitalizing on misinformation regarding these and similar issues and have a vested interest in the suppression or misrepresentation of actual scientific findings. They may, in some respects, be the most powerful lobby in our government at present (most likely not in terms of the resources they control, but in the fact that they face no serious or regular opposition from other powerful interests).
