Sexuality, mice and medication What if medication can control sexuality?

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So what if they made it available for adults only?
As for the implications that family pressure to do something would "guide" those to take a pill against their will, I would think that usually backfires on family due to the " rebellion factor".

How many young women go run off with " bad boy" simply because it will " piss their parents off"?
Usually that kind of pressure has the opposite effect.
How many guys just do something out of spite?
 

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Gustavo S. Buschle said:
iLikeHippos said:
Well, great I suppose.

All we'd need now is a perfected sex-change procedure that does not end with you turning into an illusion of the opposite sex, but the real deal.
Than, people would truly be allowed to live as they please. (I think.)
Just so you know, transsexualism and homosexuality are not the same thing. For example, there can be men wanting to be lesbians because they hate men.
Yeah, I knew that. They are different living goals, and that's what I meant they were.
Just in this case, only one was fulfilled and you'd need this second to complete the circle. (I think.)
 

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Vault101 said:
I dont know if that would be right....and if ALOT of gay people started taking it, then others might follow suit out frustration for not being able to find a partner
One could argue the same thing if they couldn't find a heterosexual partner, and wished to take a pill to do the opposite as well.
 
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TheXRatedDodo said:
Fucking disgusting. When will humanity quit playing God?
Bahaha, wow. Are you sure you aren't actually a character from a bad science fiction movie? Look, we've been playing God for centuries. I mean, imagine that you have a time machine. You take something as simple as a flashlight back a few hundred thousand years, and people are going to worship you. AS. A. GOD. That doesn't mean that flashlights are diametrically opposed to the laws of nature, it just means that we've progressed a species.

The whole premise that "too much science is bad for us because we shouldn't play god" is based on older generation's fear of technological and societal changes brought on my the younger generations following them. I'm sure we'll all experience that feeling when our grandchildren are all decked out with cybernetic implants or whatever, but that doesn't mean we'll be any more right about it then the misinformed individuals who (for example) think that videogames are corrupting the children.

Besides, we allow sex changes. Why SHOULDN'T people be able to choose their sexual orientation? How is this a problem for anyone, as long as, you know, it's voluntary?
 

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If someone wants to change their sexual orientation by a pill then that's fine with me- just make sure it's fairly well regulated to protect people from abuse with this pill.
 

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TheXRatedDodo said:
Fucking disgusting. When will humanity quit playing God?
Exactly what he said. This pisses me off to no end, sexuality is no 'medical condition' to be 'treated', it's perfectly fucking normal and all these people saying it isn't can gnaw on a cock because they have no clue what they're talking about.

Theseus32 said:
If all heterosexual people became gay, human life would be destroyed in a generation.

If all homosexual people became straight, no adverse effects would be had.

Not soapboxing here, just pointing it out.
If all homosexual people became straight, the already-huge overpopulation would skyrocket and kill most of us anyway >.>
 

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You know I have nothing against this. Why should not a person be allowed to choose his sexual preferences?
I mean gay rights activists use that as an argument don't they?

Sadly I think said activists will also be the first people to condemn the use of this drug. I think the main reason someone would condemn it is out of a fear that less people would "stay gay" if given a choice, and that this would be a step backwards with regards to their sexuality.

As long as no one is forced to change their sexuality, and the side effects of said drug isn't to bad, how can we as a majority deny them that?
 

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Lil devils x said:
Vault101 said:
I dont know if that would be right....and if ALOT of gay people started taking it, then others might follow suit out frustration for not being able to find a partner
One could argue the same thing if they couldn't find a heterosexual partner, and wished to take a pill to do the opposite as well.
that is...definetly a good point, and as somone said you could have alot of casual sex without the risk of pregnancy (I wonder how many woman would willingly go gay)
 

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If it were optional it would be very welcome, as anyone could determine their lifestyle independent of genetic predispositions.
But I can already smell from the OP howmuch abuse this would get, because obviously we all haveto be the same way...
I welcome the technological progress and fear what human stupidity end up using it for.

I for one would like an anti sex pill (as in not attracted to anyone), because it is bloody irritating being dumbstruck by every beautiful woman that passes my way and then being tortured by the thought of not having her.
 

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PoisonUnagi said:
TheXRatedDodo said:
Fucking disgusting. When will humanity quit playing God?
Exactly what he said. This pisses me off to no end, sexuality is no 'medical condition' to be 'treated', it's perfectly fucking normal and all these people saying it isn't can gnaw on a cock because they have no clue what they're talking about.

Theseus32 said:
If all heterosexual people became gay, human life would be destroyed in a generation.

If all homosexual people became straight, no adverse effects would be had.

Not soapboxing here, just pointing it out.
If all homosexual people became straight, the already-huge overpopulation would skyrocket and kill most of us anyway >.>
1) what do you consider a medical abnormality?
2) do you believe birth defects to be an abnormality with the option for treatment?
3) who do you feel should have the right to determine whether or not another individual has a right to choose their sexuality?
 
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PoisonUnagi said:
TheXRatedDodo said:
Fucking disgusting. When will humanity quit playing God?
Exactly what he said. This pisses me off to no end, sexuality is no 'medical condition' to be 'treated', it's perfectly fucking normal and all these people saying it isn't can gnaw on a cock because they have no clue what they're talking about.

No one's trying to "cure" homosexuality. They're just trying to give people the OPTION of changing their sexual preference. Nothing more, nothing less. What's wrong with that? As mentioned in another post, we allow sex changes. So what's wrong with sexual preference changes?

Honestly guys, they're scientists. Not supervillains.
 

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Lil devils x said:
This leaves the big question:

If it was determined with advancements in medicine, that homosexuality was determined by a chemical imbalance in the brain, do you think that a treatment should be made available to the public on a volunatry basis?
A resounding "Yes, of course" from me. It's your body, your life, you should be able to do with it as you please, even change it with science if you're not satisfied. Though I severely doubt something like this will ever be made available.

Every discovery has the potential to be misused, but no scientific advancement is inherently bad or wrong.
 

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Vault101 said:
Lil devils x said:
Vault101 said:
I dont know if that would be right....and if ALOT of gay people started taking it, then others might follow suit out frustration for not being able to find a partner
One could argue the same thing if they couldn't find a heterosexual partner, and wished to take a pill to do the opposite as well.
that is...definetly a good point, and as somone said you could have alot of casual sex without the risk of pregnancy (I wonder how many woman would willingly go gay)
More women than men are ALREADY Bisexual, or have been with both sexes, so I do not think the pill would impact that all that much.
 

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iLikeHippos said:
Gustavo S. Buschle said:
iLikeHippos said:
Well, great I suppose.

All we'd need now is a perfected sex-change procedure that does not end with you turning into an illusion of the opposite sex, but the real deal.
Than, people would truly be allowed to live as they please. (I think.)
Just so you know, transsexualism and homosexuality are not the same thing. For example, there can be men wanting to be lesbians because they hate men.
Yeah, I knew that. They are different living goals, and that's what I meant they were.
Just in this case, only one was fulfilled and you'd need this second to complete the circle. (I think.)
Oh, sorry. I must have misread your first post.
 

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Yeah, now if only we could have a drug that turned everyone Caucasian, or Aryan... White skinned, blue eyed, blond haired...

...Oh wait, we kinda tried that before did we? And we had this big "war" thing over it. Cause of how extremely wrong it was to try to change what other people are, their identity, for absolutely no reason but personal taste? Funny how quickly we forgot that...

On a more serious note, I'm very much against this simply because it'll become a social scapegoat. "Yeah, see, we're ok to hate the gays now! They're choosing to be gay! they could stop being gay and take the damn drug! Nevermind that the very idea of asking anyone else to do this would be utterly appalling!".

And why would a gay person actually want to stop being gay for any reason other than to avoid social stigma? This isn't even like a visual change. Changing people's skin color could potentially have a merely cosmetic and non-discriminatory reason for being, you know. You could potentially want to change your skin color simply due to aesthetic reasons. Not because you're ashamed of your heritage, or to avoid social stigma, but much in the same manner you use a different suit. This doesn't really work with your sexual orientation. Why would you change what you like? "I want to change my sexual orientation because I like something else!". No you don't, otherwise that WOULD be your sexual orientation.

I could see something like this maybe being worth debating whenever we live in a world where gay people aren't considered "subhuman" and "defective" because they had the misfortune of liking something the majority doesn't. Today? No. I have a hard time seeing any reason for this research other than the same very misguided reasons that fueled the likes of Joseph Mengeles' research.
 

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Gustavo S. Buschle said:
iLikeHippos said:
Gustavo S. Buschle said:
iLikeHippos said:
Well, great I suppose.

All we'd need now is a perfected sex-change procedure that does not end with you turning into an illusion of the opposite sex, but the real deal.
Than, people would truly be allowed to live as they please. (I think.)
Just so you know, transsexualism and homosexuality are not the same thing. For example, there can be men wanting to be lesbians because they hate men.
Yeah, I knew that. They are different living goals, and that's what I meant they were.
Just in this case, only one was fulfilled and you'd need this second to complete the circle. (I think.)
Oh, sorry. I must have misread your first post.
Meh. I'm very vague at times. I can already think of a lot of shit I left out in my post, but I just won't bother with it though : /
 

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
If an anti-gay pill were designed, I could see religious organizations forcing their members to take it. It would open an entirely new world of fear and hate for homosexuals. It would set human rights back about 300 years. In other words... fuck that.
This. I'm all for scientific advancement, but I think there's just some things humanity shouldn't fuck with.
 

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
If an anti-gay pill were designed, I could see religious organizations forcing their members to take it. It would open an entirely new world of fear and hate for homosexuals. It would set human rights back about 300 years. In other words... fuck that.
if that comes i would fight against it and hell try and sabatage the places. and I already hate religues bullcrap if somthing like that did happen id prob go to jail or somthing for going after people who support it