Sexuality, mice and medication What if medication can control sexuality?

[Optimystic]

If an anti-gay pill were designed, I could see religious organizations forcing their members to take it. It would open an entirely new world of fear and hate for homosexuals. It would set human rights back about 300 years. In other words... fuck that.

This. I can't see any possible way a "gay pill" wouldn't be abused by some family, community or congregation somewhere to "cure" their children against their will.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

Would you deny the individual the right to choose their sexuality due to homophobes?
What would you describe as a heterophobe?

Why would anyone want to chose their sexuality if not for homophobia?

Think about it. A person likes the gender they like for a myriad of reasons (much in the same way they like anything else). Why would you WANT to like something you don't?

As I said before, there's no reason to change what you like. "Oh I'm a gay guy that wants to like women! Because I prefer to have sex with women!" No you don't, or you'd be having sex with women! You say you want to have sex with women because saying you honestly prefer having sex with men causes you to be discriminated against.

>implying that in another 50 years people won't randomly decide to turn themselves hot pink to keep up with the latest fashion. Implying they won't do the same with sexuality.

Sexuality isn't an aesthetic factor. See above how changing what you like and changing what you look like are completely different.

That said, I couldn't care less if people change the color of their skin to purple for fashion reasons. There would, literally, be no reason to change your sexuality for "fashion" reasons. You'd still be lying, so might as well not take drugs.

Being sexually attracted to someone is separate than love.
What if a person is heterosexual, but "in love" with somone of the same sex, like they feel they are their soul mate, the only problem is, they are not sexually attracted to them? Do you think they should have the right to a medication that would allow them to enjoy sex better with the person they are in love with or vice versa?

You would still have the option to "opt out" . It would just be allowing others to the choice of determining their sexual attraction.

As for "asthetic" most medications on the market today are not for "asthetic" reasons. This would be no different for those choosing to take it.

 

[Frotality]

I'm worried most about who would actually choose to take these things and how many parents are going to have their kids take it.

this is the main issue i see...but then again, this kinda throws the whole "homosexuality is not a choice" thing out the window because it WOULD be a choice...i think the implications of drastically manipulating someone's desires and personality with pills is a bigger issue.

personally, given my luck with the ladies, and that female gamers/geeks are still functionally a myth to me, i would love to try my hand at being gay. i certainly know more men that share my tastes than women.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

If an anti-gay pill were designed, I could see religious organizations forcing their members to take it. It would open an entirely new world of fear and hate for homosexuals. It would set human rights back about 300 years. In other words... fuck that.

This. I can't see any possible way a "gay pill" wouldn't be abused by some family, community or congregation somewhere to "cure" their children against their will.

So you are saying that because someone else's abuse, others should be denied access to a medication that would allow them to choose their sexuality? There are a lot of crazy families out there. You have nut jobs that either had their heart set on a boy or a girl and dress their child according to what they wanted rather than what they are. Those same parents could influence their child to have a sex change, Should they then ban sex changes because of this?

I disagree with your assessment that one should be punished for anothers actions.

 

[sharpsheppard]

I don't think they were trying to play god when they were treating that man and it turned him into a gay sex addict. However, the impact on whether or not someone should be given a choice as to what sexuality they wish could change much in our society.
1)Is it playing god to give them a choice?
2) wouldn't it be imposing anothers religious beliefs onto another by not allowing them to have a choice in the first place?

I get that choice is a good thing but if a pill like that was made what is to stop some nut from going around and putting it in people coffe or somthing or parents to give it to there kids when they are young a pill like this could take any choice away.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

I don't think they were trying to play god when they were treating that man and it turned him into a gay sex addict. However, the impact on whether or not someone should be given a choice as to what sexuality they wish could change much in our society.
1)Is it playing god to give them a choice?
2) wouldn't it be imposing anothers religious beliefs onto another by not allowing them to have a choice in the first place?

I get that choice is a good thing but if a pill like that was made what is to stop some nut from going around and putting it in people coffe or somthing or parents to give it to there kids when they are young a pill like this could take any choice away.

There are plenty of medications currently available that do much more than this. What is stopping that? Oh yea- regulation, access and law enforcement.

 

[TheFinalFantasyWolf]

I don't care either way....If someone is really unhappy about their sexuality, for whatever reason, then its nobody else's business. Even if they had just succumb to social pressure, nobody else should have the right to tell them they can't.

 

[justcallmeslow]

I think it'd be something that's good for individuals but bad for the whole. Sure, there are some people who'd be happier to take a straight pill. Some would possibly even be happier taking a gay pill. Good for them all, it'd be great for them to have that choice.

But, as people have said, it'd may sexuality a choice. Religious hatred and stigma would increase. Gay camps and other efforts to 'change' a person/child from gay to straight would have the tool they needed. Dogma instilled from a young age can have a great effect. I know of at least one Jehovah's witness who is gay and feels guilty about it. So the family/church doesn't need to force it upon them directly (possibly illegally or fraudulently obtaining the drug) but can just guilt them into thinking they need it to be 'cured' and go to heaven with their twisted and hateful concept of a God.

You'd definitely get campaigners trying to make it mandatory as well. There are probably some places where they may even get prominence.

 

[justcallmeslow]

I don't think they were trying to play god when they were treating that man and it turned him into a gay sex addict. However, the impact on whether or not someone should be given a choice as to what sexuality they wish could change much in our society.
1)Is it playing god to give them a choice?
2) wouldn't it be imposing anothers religious beliefs onto another by not allowing them to have a choice in the first place?

I get that choice is a good thing but if a pill like that was made what is to stop some nut from going around and putting it in people coffe or somthing or parents to give it to there kids when they are young a pill like this could take any choice away.

There are plenty of medications currently available that do much more than this. What is stopping that? Oh yea- regulation, access and law enforcement.

Any legally available drug with desirable side-effects is available on the black market too. As it's groups who would want to abuse this drug, it'd probably become more easily available for them than individuals who want it, and this gap would grow with stricter regulation.

 

[kayisking]

Noooooh, don't tell me that they actually "cured" homosexuality. Seriously, the catholics are going to love this. Please, please, please let this fade into obscurity.

 

[Namewithheld]

Fucking disgusting. When will humanity quit playing God?

When we stop being human.

Without our brains and the thumbs to use them, there'd be about 1-4 million humans living in the Middle Eastish region with other ape like creatures.

As another, wiser man than me has said: "We are our tools, and our tools are us."

Now, if such a drug exists, fine. Our brains and the chemicals within are physical, and can be changed, improved, broken and modified. If someone is gay and they don't want to be gay, let em. If someone does not want to be straight, let them.

Individuals have complete rights over their own body.

Now, if someone ELSE tries to FORCE someone to do something, THAT is evil.

 

[FeanortheBrave]

...Meh. I have a problem with this, simply because there is nothing wrong with sexual orientations to begin with. Yeah sure you'd get a choice and all that, but, well...'Meh'. It could be abused, and pretty badly at that...Choice isn't always a good thing, in my honest opinion.

 

[LHZA]

Well there are already hormone therapies that cut out your libido. Alan Turing was forced to take estrogen injections after he was deemed to be a security risk because he was gay. Two years later he was dead by possible suicide. Of course you can argue that his chemical castration (misnomer because he wasn`t actually castrated) wasn`t voluntary, so not the same as someone who would voluntarly take the drug. Also, medroxyprogesterone acetate has been used in the past to eliminate sex drive in convicted sex offenders. Its use is naturally controversial in those particular cases, but it is interesting to note that despite it having low side effects and therefore considered a relatively safe drug, its not used commercially for people who want to eliminate their sex drive. Maybe if you asked your Dr. would give it to you, but its interesting that drug companies who jump at the chance to make drugs people don`t really need for conditions they just made up (restless leg syndrome anyone) don`t tweak the molecule for a patent, market it as a brand new lifestyle drug and rake in the billions. Probably because the pill won`t sell. I mean think how well Viagra sold. It sold so well it changed the entire pharmacuticle industry. I`m sorry but despite what a surprising number of peoples on the escapist think, most people are happy having sex, and wanting to have sex, but this is all off topic.

Yah, I think its okay for someone to choose to remove their sex drive, be they homo- or heterosexual, but it is not a decisions that should not be made lightly. Examine all the options, that`s what I say, mostly because I don`t feel like writing any more.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

I think it'd be something that's good for individuals but bad for the whole. Sure, there are some people who'd be happier to take a straight pill. Some would possibly even be happier taking a gay pill. Good for them all, it'd be great for them to have that choice.

But, as people have said, it'd may sexuality a choice. Religious hatred and stigma would increase. Gay camps and other efforts to 'change' a person/child from gay to straight would have the tool they needed. Dogma instilled from a young age can have a great effect. I know of at least one Jehovah's witness who is gay and feels guilty about it. So the family/church doesn't need to force it upon them directly (possibly illegally or fraudulently obtaining the drug) but can just guilt them into thinking they need it to be 'cured' and go to heaven with their twisted and hateful concept of a God.

You'd definitely get campaigners trying to make it mandatory as well. There are probably some places where they may even get prominence.

Draw a line straight through the center of the US horizontally. Basically, it'd be the lower area that would make it mandatory.

Considering I am from Texas, I find this pretty amusing what people think is and is not a reality here. Growing up in Texas, I have seen more heterosexuals ridiculed than homosexuals. But then again, I live in a suburb outside of dallas where "homosexuals" are not a big deal.
It is entertaining though when people assume if you live here you must ride horses, wear boots and carry a bible. LOL

 

[joeman098]

Fucking disgusting. When will humanity quit playing God?

I find offence in this comment. due to the fact that if humanity wasnt so obsessed with playing """god""" and making advances in medical science me and my mother would have died before I was born. When humanity wakes up and realizes we are not special we are not privileged we were not created by some God that watches over us and judges us. we are very very small insignificant specs in an infinitely large universe

personally this is my favorite quote and explains alot of my view on the world and such
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M
the pale blue dot from carl sagan check it out and really think about it. that picture is the most distant image of earth every taken.