Shelby Knox Wants Duke Nukem Forever Out of Walmart

[TacticalAssassin1]

http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-anti-duke-nukem-forever-womens-rights-petitioners-stop-your-petition#comments?opt_new=f&opt_fb=f

Nuff said.

That won't work what you need is something like this

http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-walmart-youre-okay-with-duke-nukem-forever-with-babe-slapping-mode

My bad. I will now l2forum.

 

[dietpeachsnapple]

?foor eht hguorht selas FND evird dna tramlaW truh lliw siht taht ees yeht t'naC

?yeht dluow ,etah yeht gnihtemos gnitomorp otni troffe hcum taht tup dluow eno-oN ?ti t'nsi looF lirpA na si sihT

I can begin by agreeing with all of this.

Then I can move on to say that I hope that Shelby Knox learns that the way to show a company that you will not stand for a product of theirs... because of the opinions they seem to stand for... in your opinion... is to not buy the product. Trying to get them banned, on the other hand is censorship and unamerican as dirty political tactics goes, because you are literally trying to shape art by attacking a person's wallet.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-anti-duke-nukem-forever-womens-rights-petitioners-stop-your-petition#comments?opt_new=f&opt_fb=f

Nuff said.

That won't work what you need is something like this

http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-walmart-youre-okay-with-duke-nukem-forever-with-babe-slapping-mode

My bad. I will now l2forum.

No I meant that asking the feminists to stop their petition won't work. Asking Wal-Mart to sell the game might work.

Oh right. I thought you were talking about my shitty URL skillz.
And yes, I agree. You can't debate with these people. They just won't fucking listen.
I don't see why Wal-Mart wouldn't sell the game. If they don't, they'll miss out on a hell of a lot of money, and there isn't anything in it if they don't other than a "Thanks, but you could have done more" from these feminists anyway, right?

 

[Radoh]

I think this Shelby Knox is going the route of Jack Thompson, do something incredibly inconsequential and if by some miracle, something changes take credit for it and label it a win for your argument. I mean really, of all the possible places she goes to to ban this game, its Walmart? Sure, Walmart sells a LOT of stuff, video games however, is not one of their strong suits.

 

[Diablo27]

To be honest I'm surprised this game hasn't been banned in my country yet. I'll still pick it up but would they rather us NOT save the babe? Would they rather us let them be turned into alien queens?

 

[dietpeachsnapple]

?foor eht hguorht selas FND evird dna tramlaW truh lliw siht taht ees yeht t'naC

?yeht dluow ,etah yeht gnihtemos gnitomorp otni troffe hcum taht tup dluow eno-oN ?ti t'nsi looF lirpA na si sihT

I can begin by agreeing with all of this.

Then I can move on to say that I hope that Shelby Knox learns that the way to show a company that you will not stand for a product of theirs... because of the opinions they seem to stand for... in your opinion... is to not buy the product. Trying to get them banned, on the other hand is censorship and unamerican as dirty political tactics goes, because you are literally trying to shape art by attacking a person's wallet.

The Penny Arcade argument is a bad one.

Shooting enemy soldiers you are in a war against is not murder.

In fact if some people did complain that you killed people in a war game and called it murder I bet you Penny Arcade would mock them mercilessly (and they'd be in the right for doing so).

My apologies for assumptions, but I have never played the more recent call of duty games, and I had heard there was an instance in which you assist in a terrorist attack. I thought it was being referenced. My source was incorrect, and I am a fool for having commented on something I had not personally experienced as a gamer.

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-anti-duke-nukem-forever-womens-rights-petitioners-stop-your-petition#comments?opt_new=f&opt_fb=f

Nuff said.

That won't work what you need is something like this

http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-walmart-youre-okay-with-duke-nukem-forever-with-babe-slapping-mode

My bad. I will now l2forum.

No I meant that asking the feminists to stop their petition won't work. Asking Wal-Mart to sell the game might work.

Oh right. I thought you were talking about my shitty URL skillz.
And yes, I agree. You can't debate with these people. They just won't fucking listen.

Some of the will but some of them won't (like the petition starter who seems to be pulling off the Fox News playbook of exaggerating how bad something is). But either way, if a ton of strangers on the internet signed a petition asking you to switch sides you probably wouldn't be swayed. The only reason it works on companies is that there's lost sales on the line.

Actually internet petitions rarely work period.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp

Thanks for the link, it's pretty interesting.
Reminds me of the "Dedicated servers for PC MW2" e-petition that got hundreds of thousands of signatures.

 

[Nashidar]

This is just another point to reaffirm that, as a society, we are much more comfortable with violence than we are with anything to do with sexuality.

The more open we are about sexuality the better understanding of it we will all have and the more tolerant we will be.

If we had a society that was more open and understanding of sexuality and what is, and isn't, allowed then this game would not be an issue at all because everyone would know that this is NOT how you behave in real life.

Shelby Knox mentions an age group that will be affected by it that shouldn't even be allowed to play the game.

Therefore, the people who do play this game will, hopefully, have the mature mindset to realise that you don't really treat women this way in real life.

As others have said - there are movies that are much, much, worse than this that are allowed to go through unchallenged.

The point here is that it is not a video game that will govern a person's behaviour - it is they themselves.

I believe that, until a person is 18, any actions committed by that person is not only their responsibility but also their parents. Parents should not be allowing children of the age of 7 to play games rated M for example. You can't blame the video game makers because the game was tailored to a group and given a rating. Parents need to take responsibility.

As such, what Shelby Knox should be doing is actually directing parents to NOT buy this game for their children if they are under the appropriate age.

She should be encouraging parents to be responsible and adhere to the rating of the game.

Any other comment is simply scaremongering.

 

[Riobux]

Thank you for reminding me that the role of radical feminists/"women's rights" groups isn't to create equality, but to create inequality in their favour.

Was there ever any doubt?

They could of been liberal feminist and been somewhat intelligent.

 

[VondeVon]

I think sometimes people react to any critique aimed at games a little too aggressively. Sure, sometimes there are morons like Jack Thompson making something out of nothing but - like it or not - sometimes there really are genuinely distasteful aspects in games for people to complain about.

I love Duke, even though he is a sexist pig and I'm very much a feminist, but even I have to frown at the 'slap her on the butt to calm her down' (more for the backslap implication that women are prone to hysterics than the obvious implication that they just need a firm male hand to set them straight).

That doesn't mean I think the mode should be removed, not at all! I just think there should be a bit more equality. For example, you should be able to choose the gender of the babe you're capturing.

Heh heh... Slash Duke. The next step for the butchiest butch who ever butched. XD

 

[Sojoez]

Sorry for the giant reply.

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