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So I have been working out 5-6 times a week for 2-3 hours every day sense January so that I could loose weight and gain muscle.


I heard about this stuff called creatine and wanted to know if its good to use for helping with workouts or if its just one of those things places try to sell but dues nothing.


Iv learned a lot sense I started working out and I have been turning a lot of my fat into muscle and it feels great.


I'm looking at safe ways to help build more muscle so I figured id look into it and ask.
 

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Zira said:
I feel like this could've been put a lot...LOT more diplomatically, I agree with the overall idea. Diet pills seem too good to be true. And that's because they are. Just exercise properly and eat healthy. Nature will do the rest.
 

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According to this: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/263269.php
- you are advised to talk to your doctor before taking creatine. Also according to a few other sites I just hit up, it is recommended you do not use creatine if you are under 18, or if you aren't going to to do serious body-building (in a competitive sense, for example).
So unless each of your workouts are focused on intensive muscle-building, you may not really need to use creatine.
 

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I'd just stick to a high protein diet, seems like less effort for the same effect. The stuff does occur naturally in meat, beef and chicken mostly from what I gather.
 

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You want a safe way to build muscles? Eat food rich with protein. I suggest chicken. But not legs, just breasts. Put some spices on it and some onions to enhance the taste, wrap it in the aluminum foil and put it in the oven without any oils and whatnot and let it bake for an hour or so. It's like heaven, and yet it's healthy.
 

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Adam Jensen said:
You want a safe way to build muscles? Eat food rich with protein. I suggest chicken. But not legs, just breasts. Put some spices on it and some onions to enhance the taste, wrap it in the aluminum foil and put it in the oven without any oils and whatnot and let it bake for an hour or so. It's like heaven, and yet it's healthy.
ahhhh...so THATS how I can cook chicken breats without it drying out.....cool
 

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There're probably safer, healthier ways of building muscle. No, wouldn't recommend a drug for it.
 

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Veldie said:
Iv learned a lot sense I started working out and I have been turning a lot of my fat into muscle and it feels great.
That's not a thing

Veldie, I've been weight training for 3 years as of next week. I have been using creatine for 2 and a half of those.

I can tell you that supplementing creating is safe for anyone with normal renal function. It is also THE most effective supplement on the market.

As far as which one you should take, just buy a creatine monohydrate. Don't bother with one of those fancy, more expensive blends that companies try to promote. They are more expensive and less effective than creatine monohydrate.

A year's supply cost me $30 Australian.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
There're probably safer, healthier ways of building muscle. No, wouldn't recommend a drug for it.
Creatine is not a dug. The human body naturally produces creatine. It helps the muscle cells store more ATP increasing anaerobic muscle performance.

The idea behind supplementing it is that your muscles become creatine saturated, improving performance. It is used widely in athletics.
 

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Keepitclean said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
There're probably safer, healthier ways of building muscle. No, wouldn't recommend a drug for it.
Creatine is not a dug. The human body naturally produces creatine. It helps the muscle cells store more ATP increasing anaerobic muscle performance.

The idea behind supplementing it is that your muscles become creatine saturated, improving performance. It is used widely in athletics.
Wouldn't an ergogenic aid count as a drug though?
 

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If you ask my opinion: only idiots resort to anything more than physical exercise and a proper diet to build up their muscle mass.

So yeah, you can take that. If you're an idiot.
You know, for someone who made a thread tearing on Chris Hemsworth for not being ripped despite him gaining his mass through nothing but diet and exercise while praising several bodybuilders who have openly admitted to using steroids, that's kind of an ironic statement to make. I mean, I agree that natural is best, but when phrased that way and coming from you, yeah...
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Keepitclean said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
There're probably safer, healthier ways of building muscle. No, wouldn't recommend a drug for it.
Creatine is not a dug. The human body naturally produces creatine. It helps the muscle cells store more ATP increasing anaerobic muscle performance.

The idea behind supplementing it is that your muscles become creatine saturated, improving performance. It is used widely in athletics.
Wouldn't an ergogenic aid count as a drug though?
Some ergonomic aids would be but not all.

http://www.brianmac.co.uk/ergoaids.htm

Look at this list, in particular the pharmacological part. I wouldn't classify all of those as 'drugs'.

Even if they were under some broad definition of drug, not all drugs are equal. Supplementing with creatine, magnesium and caffeine are legal in drug tested sports organizations. It's not like he's injecting clen or taking dexys preworkout.

TakerFoxx said:
On a side note, I doubt ol' mate Thor is natty.

Zira said:
If you ask my opinion: only idiots resort to anything more than physical exercise and a proper diet to build up their muscle mass.

So yeah, you can take that. If you're an idiot.
Not sure if you're trolling or just uninformed. Either way, thank you for that informative and insightful comment. I'm sure the OP has been greatly helped on his path to achieve his goals.
 

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Have to say that Creatine is the real s***. It's not one of those false advertisements to take away your money.

That stuff works and there is no denying it.

The disadvantage is that you won't 'lose weight'. You will inevitably gain weight. Creatine is for bulking, not for cutting. If you want to add size, you take creatine, so that you can lift more and build more muscle. It will balloon you a bit though and the affect varies from person to person.

Some people have adverse reactions to creatine, but these are normally just it not digesting properly. So it will cause some discomfort, but not a massive issue. I'd still consult your doctor before entering a plan of such, if you are at all worried.

But, if you are looking to trim down, creatine is the opposite of what you want. It is most definitely for getting bigger. It is normally used in the winter to get big and then people stop taking it and 'cut', so that they can show off their gains in the winter, in the summer.

I know plenty of people who have taken it without issue and it is one of the most highly regarded supplements in the industry.

tl;dr The issue for you, is that it will help you gain muscle, but you definitely won't lose weight; you will gain.

EDIT: Should've made clear: I have used creatine myself, so I have my own experience with it too to go on.
 

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Vault101 said:
Adam Jensen said:
You want a safe way to build muscles? Eat food rich with protein. I suggest chicken. But not legs, just breasts. Put some spices on it and some onions to enhance the taste, wrap it in the aluminum foil and put it in the oven without any oils and whatnot and let it bake for an hour or so. It's like heaven, and yet it's healthy.
ahhhh...so THATS how I can cook chicken breats without it drying out.....cool
Oh you have no idea how juicy it can be when it is prepared the right way.

And while I'm at it, it goes really well with brown rice and tomato sauce. I know a lot of bodybuilders who eat brown rice every day after gym. It tastes like white rice but it's healthier. White rice is basically a nutritiously stripped down version of brown rice. Because of that some of the nutritious elements (the least important ones) are added to it in the later process in order to enrich it, which makes it a processed food. And those are bad for ya. You need to eat wholegrain if you don't want to just store fats.

captcha: I think so

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My dad's 100% natural and at no less than 70 years old he has more muscle mass than Chris Hemsworth. Just sayin'.

(You people scare me by how you remember and keep track of everything I do. Gosh, me I can't even remember who's who in this forum!)
Never mentioned your dad. Now Arnie and Sylvester, whom you provided pictures of, on the other hand...

And I fairness, your threads do tend to be...memorable.
 

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There are a couple posts in this thread already that contain all of the worthwhile information about creatine's safety and effectiveness so I won't repeat it. I will say that I supplement whey protein and creatine monohydrate and I've never had any adverse effects. Creatine is perhaps the most researched supplement on the market and if anything it's safe to take anything it would be creatine (aside from protein). I think it's helped me put on size but honestly nothing is going to make you grow more than a calorie surplus with plenty of all the macro nutrients. Lift big, eat big, get big.
 

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Veldie said:
So I have been working out 5-6 times a week for 2-3 hours every day sense January so that I could loose weight and gain muscle.


I heard about this stuff called creatine and wanted to know if its good to use for helping with workouts or if its just one of those things places try to sell but dues nothing.


Iv learned a lot sense I started working out and I have been turning a lot of my fat into muscle and it feels great.


I'm looking at safe ways to help build more muscle so I figured id look into it and ask.
I'd talk with a doctor first before taking any drug like that. If you aren't getting the results you want with a high-protein diet (lean protein, mind) and a regular regimen of structured weight and cardio exercises, then speak with a doctor first to talk about what your goal is, how realistic it is, and what other things you could do to achieve it. Drugs are rarely the way to go when it comes to losing weight or gaining muscle--the results typically last only as long as you're taking the drug. And they typically aren't the most "safe" route if that is one of your concerns.