Should Metroid Other M get a redo?

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Leoofmoon

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Kahunaburger said:
Leoofmoon said:
Kahunaburger said:
Sudenak said:
Paragon Fury said:
Honestly, I'd rather the original Other M script, the one written by Team Ninja, not the Nintendo hire.

Scuttlebutt has it that while the original TN had a lot more TA in it (bu-dum-tish), Samus as a character was a lot closer to ass-kicking badass we all knew her to be, rather than the obedient pansy she was in Other M.
No.

I would rather this shameful part of the Metroid series be about how they made her into a whiny, emotionless dog than a whore. Samus was one of the heroines I looked up to growing up. A strong, independent woman that kicked ass without needing to be overtly sexualized. And while she has been gradually more and more sexualized as time wears on, I do not want the fleshed-out character of her to just be something for men to ogle.

Fix Other M, or just pretend it never existed. But do NOT allow her to become nothing more than a pair of tits.
This. The solution to bad writing is not a different kind of bad writing.
ummm.....yes it is.
If you replace bad writing with bad writing, you still end up with bad writing :) See also: that Extra Credits episode on female characters.
yes but we dont now the full thing of team ninjas plot, they atlest make storys that grab you. how you make it spund is of a game has a bad plot, it all always have a bad plot
 

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Leoofmoon said:
Kahunaburger said:
Leoofmoon said:
Kahunaburger said:
Sudenak said:
Paragon Fury said:
Honestly, I'd rather the original Other M script, the one written by Team Ninja, not the Nintendo hire.

Scuttlebutt has it that while the original TN had a lot more TA in it (bu-dum-tish), Samus as a character was a lot closer to ass-kicking badass we all knew her to be, rather than the obedient pansy she was in Other M.
No.

I would rather this shameful part of the Metroid series be about how they made her into a whiny, emotionless dog than a whore. Samus was one of the heroines I looked up to growing up. A strong, independent woman that kicked ass without needing to be overtly sexualized. And while she has been gradually more and more sexualized as time wears on, I do not want the fleshed-out character of her to just be something for men to ogle.

Fix Other M, or just pretend it never existed. But do NOT allow her to become nothing more than a pair of tits.
This. The solution to bad writing is not a different kind of bad writing.
ummm.....yes it is.
If you replace bad writing with bad writing, you still end up with bad writing :) See also: that Extra Credits episode on female characters.
yes but we dont now the full thing of team ninjas plot, they atlest make storys that grab you. how you make it spund is of a game has a bad plot, it all always have a bad plot
Well, we do know that Team Ninja has never written a good game, so we have no indication that their script for Other M is anything but Dead or Alive: XTreme Zebes Volleyball.
 

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Leoofmoon said:
Kahunaburger said:
Leoofmoon said:
Kahunaburger said:
Sudenak said:
Paragon Fury said:
Honestly, I'd rather the original Other M script, the one written by Team Ninja, not the Nintendo hire.

Scuttlebutt has it that while the original TN had a lot more TA in it (bu-dum-tish), Samus as a character was a lot closer to ass-kicking badass we all knew her to be, rather than the obedient pansy she was in Other M.
No.

I would rather this shameful part of the Metroid series be about how they made her into a whiny, emotionless dog than a whore. Samus was one of the heroines I looked up to growing up. A strong, independent woman that kicked ass without needing to be overtly sexualized. And while she has been gradually more and more sexualized as time wears on, I do not want the fleshed-out character of her to just be something for men to ogle.

Fix Other M, or just pretend it never existed. But do NOT allow her to become nothing more than a pair of tits.
This. The solution to bad writing is not a different kind of bad writing.
ummm.....yes it is.
If you replace bad writing with bad writing, you still end up with bad writing :) See also: that Extra Credits episode on female characters.
yes but we dont now the full thing of team ninjas plot, they atlest make storys that grab you. how you make it spund is of a game has a bad plot, it all always have a bad plot
Will I get a warning for simply posting "huh?"

Um, if you've played the game, beat it at 100%, and looked online for hidden content you may have missed, then you know the full thing of team ninjas plot. I'm happy to hear that the story atlest grabbed you. It did not atlest grab me.

I can only presume that the last sentence refers to the game selling, which it really didn't. Nintendo had to do crowd control after releasing the game to a chilly reception. So I'm not sure how you make it spund a subversion of the law of identity or just a cliched expression of nothin's-gonna-change cynicism, but I believe quite a few people involved in video games and media in general have been disproving that of late.
 

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I think they should make a game with the same characters but without team ninja and without the, Samus is a pwetty vulnerable woman who just wants to have a child and leave stuff for the real men bullshit.

Just destroy the continuity of that game and if anyone calls you out on it, just say "other M? I don't know what you're talking about."
 

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funguy2121 said:
Leoofmoon said:
Kahunaburger said:
Leoofmoon said:
Kahunaburger said:
Sudenak said:
Paragon Fury said:
Honestly, I'd rather the original Other M script, the one written by Team Ninja, not the Nintendo hire.

Scuttlebutt has it that while the original TN had a lot more TA in it (bu-dum-tish), Samus as a character was a lot closer to ass-kicking badass we all knew her to be, rather than the obedient pansy she was in Other M.
No.

I would rather this shameful part of the Metroid series be about how they made her into a whiny, emotionless dog than a whore. Samus was one of the heroines I looked up to growing up. A strong, independent woman that kicked ass without needing to be overtly sexualized. And while she has been gradually more and more sexualized as time wears on, I do not want the fleshed-out character of her to just be something for men to ogle.

Fix Other M, or just pretend it never existed. But do NOT allow her to become nothing more than a pair of tits.
This. The solution to bad writing is not a different kind of bad writing.
ummm.....yes it is.
If you replace bad writing with bad writing, you still end up with bad writing :) See also: that Extra Credits episode on female characters.
yes but we dont now the full thing of team ninjas plot, they atlest make storys that grab you. how you make it spund is of a game has a bad plot, it all always have a bad plot
Will I get a warning for simply posting "huh?"

Um, if you've played the game, beat it at 100%, and looked online for hidden content you may have missed, then you know the full thing of team ninjas plot. I'm happy to hear that the story atlest grabbed you. It did not atlest grab me.

I can only presume that the last sentence refers to the game selling, which it really didn't. Nintendo had to do crowd control after releasing the game to a chilly reception. So I'm not sure how you make it spund a subversion of the law of identity or just a cliched expression of nothin's-gonna-change cynicism, but I believe quite a few people involved in video games and media in general have been disproving that of late.
By "grabed me" i mean it had me entertained, yes there storys fall falt on there face but atlest they keep your acition with action
 

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The only thing I want from Other M is a statement from Nintend saying that it was a huge mistake, they gonna take that thing of the series canon and give Metroid back to Retro Studios so they can make a new Metroid following Prime style of gameplay right after they finished Donkey Kong Country Returns 2... A man can dream...
 

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Zorg Machine said:
I think they should make a game with the same characters but without team ninja and without the, Samus is a pwetty vulnerable woman who just wants to have a child and leave stuff for the real men bullshit.

Just destroy the continuity of that game and if anyone calls you out on it, just say "other M? I don't know what you're talking about."
hehe keep samus but leave the school girl atatude out of a space mercnarey Ace
 

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Is it possible to remake poo so that it no longer smells?

In all seriousness, Other M could get a re-boot... If it was worth it. Other M wasn't, so the new one would have to be Prime, mixed with Fusion, add a touch of Super Metriod, and completely avoid Hunters, Prime 2, and Metriod 2.
 

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I suggest that they burn all material concerning it's existence and development and simply declare the entire thing non-canon and move on, at least until people mostly forget about it so that a talented and well supplied studio can do it right.

CAPTCHA: Avaced Lectures,
 

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OK, so after watching Extra Credits episode on Other M it came to me that maybe Nintendo could give Other M another try. I really liked the core story of the game, but to me it felt like it was held down by horrible dialogue and some questionable gameplay choices (ie focus instead of energy pickups, no nunchuk etc). Basically, Other M felt like a lot of wasted potential. I like the core storyline of the game, ie give samus a bit of character and bridge the gap between fusion and Super Metroid, but the game itself sucked.

So, does the Escapist think that Nintendo should try Other M again? Not just a remake, but a completely new game but with the same basic story? I think they wasted a lot of potential there, and it's a pretty big blemish on an otherwise flawless series.
Why would you want a remake? Was the story really that great? I have the feeling that most others don't think so. It seems to me that they could just make the next Metroid (a sequel basically) and maybe ignore/retcon some of the things from Other M if they decide it did irreparable damage to the storyline/character.

TheIronRuler said:
No.
It's a slap in the face for the developers to simply say that they didn't do the job well enough, and that others could do it better
So what? If the players collectively decide that they did a bad job, then isn't that the only metric that matters? Do we need to spare their feelings when they did a lousy job? I'm not saying that this is the case, but this seems like it is very much something that we as gamers can say about a game.

TheIronRuler said:
They ARE doing it better, that's the reason they were hired.
How? What? How can you decide that they are doing better because they were hired. First they get hired, and then they proceed to do things (good or bad). The fact that they were hired only says something about the faith that the hirer had in them, which is an indicator, but is nowhere near definitive. I do not follow this logic.
 

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I'll tell you what's next for the Metroid series:

1: Shut Samus up. She's silent; she's deadly; she's a badass. These facts work in tandem.
2: No other people involved, at all. Just put her on a planet(s), name some kind of imminent crisis and send her on her way.
3: Name it 'Metroid Prime 4: [subtitle]'
4: 3D FPS

Aaaaaand we're good!
 

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No, I think they should just move on. Whether that means going back to the style of Prime, returning to 2D side scrollers or taking the series in a whole new direction, I just want them to move as far away from the mistakes of Other M as possible.
 

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The problem is that it wasn't a Metroid game, not even a little. The aesthetics are more like a modern RPG (more futuristic fantasy world, less futuristic wilderness), the premise is more like Metal Gear Solid (more military schemes, less horrific space monsters), and the gameplay is more like Megaman Legends (more simplified story-based third person shooting, less Metroidvania-type atmosphere-based exploring). They couldn't even make it a Metroidvania, the genre that the series half-named, for God's sake. There's no way to fix that, unless you take the Metroid stuff out.
 

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Leoofmoon said:
funguy2121 said:
Leoofmoon said:
Kahunaburger said:
Leoofmoon said:
Kahunaburger said:
Sudenak said:
Paragon Fury said:
Honestly, I'd rather the original Other M script, the one written by Team Ninja, not the Nintendo hire.

Scuttlebutt has it that while the original TN had a lot more TA in it (bu-dum-tish), Samus as a character was a lot closer to ass-kicking badass we all knew her to be, rather than the obedient pansy she was in Other M.
No.

I would rather this shameful part of the Metroid series be about how they made her into a whiny, emotionless dog than a whore. Samus was one of the heroines I looked up to growing up. A strong, independent woman that kicked ass without needing to be overtly sexualized. And while she has been gradually more and more sexualized as time wears on, I do not want the fleshed-out character of her to just be something for men to ogle.

Fix Other M, or just pretend it never existed. But do NOT allow her to become nothing more than a pair of tits.
This. The solution to bad writing is not a different kind of bad writing.
ummm.....yes it is.
If you replace bad writing with bad writing, you still end up with bad writing :) See also: that Extra Credits episode on female characters.
yes but we dont now the full thing of team ninjas plot, they atlest make storys that grab you. how you make it spund is of a game has a bad plot, it all always have a bad plot
Will I get a warning for simply posting "huh?"

Um, if you've played the game, beat it at 100%, and looked online for hidden content you may have missed, then you know the full thing of team ninjas plot. I'm happy to hear that the story atlest grabbed you. It did not atlest grab me.

I can only presume that the last sentence refers to the game selling, which it really didn't. Nintendo had to do crowd control after releasing the game to a chilly reception. So I'm not sure how you make it spund a subversion of the law of identity or just a cliched expression of nothin's-gonna-change cynicism, but I believe quite a few people involved in video games and media in general have been disproving that of late.
By "grabed me" i mean it had me entertained, yes there storys fall falt on there face but atlest they keep your acition with action
I really don't have the words.
 

Seieko Pherdo

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Why don't we just all learn from the horrible mistakes that game and move on so the next time a Metroid game is made it won't be a disaster.
 

thenumberthirteen

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No. Even if the game had only one problem that could be fixed in a remake it shouldn't be done. They should take their blows, learn from them, and make another, different game. A sequel? Maybe, or just ret-con the lot. Remakes (particularly of modern games) are creatively lazy.
 

UmJammerSully

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Just keep Team Ninja the hell away from Metroid. I thought Metroid Prime 3 started getting silly with the story but it was at an entirely acceptable level, Other M took it about 5 steps too far and managed to make it the first bad Metroid game since the series started in 1986.

Hopefully Metroid will go away for a while then come back under a new developer that knows how to introduce new elements to the franchise without completely fucking it up.
 

Lt. Vinciti

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Where did the plan to give one of the strongest female characters ever created to a bunch of dudes whose games include

Fighting w/ Tits
and
Tits Volleyball

I notice feminists cry about shit like DNF but they dont defend someone like Samus for basically making everything trying to kill her its ass for a hat and its sexual organs for a keychain....