Should muslim women remove their veil in stores?

[Fronken]

the Hijab is not technically a religious rule. Muslim women wear the Hijab to preserve modesty. The reasons behind the hijab are backed up by the Qur'an, however no religious rule requires them to wear it.

for my actual opinion, I would say to let them keep the head covering, but to remove the veils.

Wait what?, im not allowed to disagree with religion without being a rascist?

Oh, and please tell me what good discriminating against women does, Please, i beg of you, you who are so high and mighty, please tell me what good a law that prohibits women from being allowed to show their bodies does...

As I said above, This is by no means a law, outside of certain countries. The Hijab and Veil are, in general, choice(as I said there are countries that require it). So thank you for proving yourself to be ignorant. please try and know what you're talking about before trying to talk about it.

Guess you know alot more about the laws against muslim women than Actual muslim women, cause everyone i've spoken to so far have said it to be a law enforced by their men, but i guess you know much better then those who have actually lived in countries where it was against the law.

 

[Fronken]

secondly, its a dumb religous rule, .

It's not for you to judge what should or shouldn't be important/dumb to them based on your own opinions.

Have i ever said that what im saying is anything more than my oppinion?, No, so stop putting words in my mount and just agree/disagree with what i say for the sake of argument.

 

[JWAN]

secondly, its a dumb religous rule, .

It's not for you to judge what should or shouldn't be important/dumb to them based on your own opinions.

dude, its his own damn opinion, he can say what he wants, this is the internet not the Gaza strip

 

[cainx10a]

Well people have to take down hoods walking into shops why shouldnt they have to take off something that completely obscures there face I'm not racist but that makes alot of sense.

First question, why are Muslim women out of the kitchen?

Because I got shot at so they COULD leave the kitchen and go to school/be apart of the community.

Yeah, keep saying that to yourself. LOL.

Edit: Is it by killing their husband/fathers and sons, the way to keep them out of the kitchen?

 

[JWAN]

Well people have to take down hoods walking into shops why shouldnt they have to take off something that completely obscures there face I'm not racist but that makes alot of sense.

First question, why are Muslim women out of the kitchen?

Because I got shot at so they COULD leave the kitchen and go to school/be apart of the

Yeah, keep saying that to yourself. LOL.


Edit: Is it by killing their man and sons, the way to keep them out of the kitchen?

that's why I enlisted, so I could spread freedom I didn't see you making any moves to help free up an impoverished country ruled by a heinous dictator, so I went.
no, its by killing the fascists (terrorists) (like the Nazis only middle eastern)

 

[cainx10a]

Well people have to take down hoods walking into shops why shouldnt they have to take off something that completely obscures there face I'm not racist but that makes alot of sense.

First question, why are Muslim women out of the kitchen?

Because I got shot at so they COULD leave the kitchen and go to school/be apart of the

Yeah, keep saying that to yourself. LOL.


Edit: Is it by killing their man and sons, the way to keep them out of the kitchen?

that's why I enlisted, so I could spread freedom I didn't see you making any moves to help free up an impoverished country ruled by a heinous dictator, so I went.
no, its by killing the fascists (terrorists) (like the Nazis only middle eastern)

Ah, I see. But I thought the only nazis in Iraq were the US

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeer_Qasim

Not sure why I should enlist to attack countries that had NOTHING to do with Al-Quaida. Oh, and good job on spreading freedom though

 

[Thorthelordofawesomeness]

This is probably america proving once again that they are the most hypocritical and predicatabal assholes since Ghengis Khan.(is that how his name's spelt? i think so) It's no wonder that most terrorists are muslims because EVERYBODY seems to be attacking middle-eastern cultures ever since saddam hussain. This is all rather childish and i believe that america needs to keep it's nose and it's laws out of other peoples cultures. Much like christianity needs to undergo religious iniciation by toppleing and burning for the first time in it's existance, or Peter Mulinu(again, im not sure about the spelling) needs to shut it and be put in a corner with a duncebucket on his head. The thing that pisses me off the most right now is that people are agreeing with this blasphemic bile and that cultures are being forced to adapt to suit the fears of anyone who doesnt happen to be either part of that culture or carrying a fully loaded colt.90 at their side.

 

[JWAN]

Well people have to take down hoods walking into shops why shouldnt they have to take off something that completely obscures there face I'm not racist but that makes alot of sense.

First question, why are Muslim women out of the kitchen?

Because I got shot at so they COULD leave the kitchen and go to school/be apart of the

Yeah, keep saying that to yourself. LOL.


Edit: Is it by killing their man and sons, the way to keep them out of the kitchen?

that's why I enlisted, so I could spread freedom I didn't see you making any moves to help free up an impoverished country ruled by a heinous dictator, so I went.
no, its by killing the fascists (terrorists) (like the Nazis only middle eastern)

Ah, I see. But I thought the only nazis in Iraq were the US

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeer_Qasim

Not sure why I should enlist to attack countries that had NOTHING to do with Al-Quaida. Oh, and good job on spreading freedom though

so you judge a whole country based on the acts of a few soldiers? why dont you go back to lopping off heads in that cave, and filling mass graves with children or puting rape rooms in mental hospitals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC-lwbxSYKs

 

[cainx10a]

Well people have to take down hoods walking into shops why shouldnt they have to take off something that completely obscures there face I'm not racist but that makes alot of sense.

First question, why are Muslim women out of the kitchen?

Because I got shot at so they COULD leave the kitchen and go to school/be apart of the

Yeah, keep saying that to yourself. LOL.


Edit: Is it by killing their man and sons, the way to keep them out of the kitchen?

that's why I enlisted, so I could spread freedom I didn't see you making any moves to help free up an impoverished country ruled by a heinous dictator, so I went.
no, its by killing the fascists (terrorists) (like the Nazis only middle eastern)

Ah, I see. But I thought the only nazis in Iraq were the US

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeer_Qasim

Not sure why I should enlist to attack countries that had NOTHING to do with Al-Quaida. Oh, and good job on spreading freedom though

so you judge a whole country based on the acts of a few soldiers? why dont you go back to lopping off heads in that cave, and filling mass graves with children or puting rape rooms in mental hospitals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC-lwbxSYKs

Fine example of why America is hated ... right here

 

[Arsen]

This is how I see it:

You go into another country, you abide by their laws. You don't just walk in and demand everything be changed to suit your ways.

 

[JWAN]

Well people have to take down hoods walking into shops why shouldnt they have to take off something that completely obscures there face I'm not racist but that makes alot of sense.

First question, why are Muslim women out of the kitchen?

Because I got shot at so they COULD leave the kitchen and go to school/be apart of the

Yeah, keep saying that to yourself. LOL.


Edit: Is it by killing their man and sons, the way to keep them out of the kitchen?

that's why I enlisted, so I could spread freedom I didn't see you making any moves to help free up an impoverished country ruled by a heinous dictator, so I went.
no, its by killing the fascists (terrorists) (like the Nazis only middle eastern)

Ah, I see. But I thought the only nazis in Iraq were the US

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeer_Qasim

Not sure why I should enlist to attack countries that had NOTHING to do with Al-Quaida. Oh, and good job on spreading freedom though

so you judge a whole country based on the acts of a few soldiers? why dont you go back to lopping off heads in that cave, and filling mass graves with children or puting rape rooms in mental hospitals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC-lwbxSYKs

Fine example of why America is hated ... right here

America is hated because you have sex with donkeys?

 

[cainx10a]

Well people have to take down hoods walking into shops why shouldnt they have to take off something that completely obscures there face I'm not racist but that makes alot of sense.

First question, why are Muslim women out of the kitchen?

Because I got shot at so they COULD leave the kitchen and go to school/be apart of the

Yeah, keep saying that to yourself. LOL.


Edit: Is it by killing their man and sons, the way to keep them out of the kitchen?

that's why I enlisted, so I could spread freedom I didn't see you making any moves to help free up an impoverished country ruled by a heinous dictator, so I went.
no, its by killing the fascists (terrorists) (like the Nazis only middle eastern)

Ah, I see. But I thought the only nazis in Iraq were the US

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeer_Qasim

Not sure why I should enlist to attack countries that had NOTHING to do with Al-Quaida. Oh, and good job on spreading freedom though

so you judge a whole country based on the acts of a few soldiers? why dont you go back to lopping off heads in that cave, and filling mass graves with children or puting rape rooms in mental hospitals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC-lwbxSYKs

Fine example of why America is hated ... right here

America is hated because you have sex with donkeys?

You == Donkey, Me != Middle-Eastern. But sorry, we didn't ever meet, so doubt we ever got intimate. But hey, nice video though, they were clearly Iraqis -cough-

 

[Low Frost]

Wonderful to see that this forum is just as incapable of having a decent commentary on social events as others I frequent.
Meh, I need to give up the internet or something.

 

[Mr Scott]

I don't think a Retailer's Association should have any pull in whether or not by tradition and cultural faith women should remove their hajib. It's like the USDA saying "We move that Jewish individuals are hereby banned from eating kosher food." Or keeping Muslims from wearing turbans in a STORE!

Yes, I am ignoring the context, because cultural and religious tolerance are closer to my heart than retail security.

 

[Azeban]

No. It's their religion. Deal with it.

My religion requires that I wear a ski mask and carry a shotgun at all times, especially in banks. People should put themselves and their businesses at risk to conform with my ridiculous religion.

They should be allowed to throw anyone they choose out, it's their right. Those Muslim women will shop elsewhere, and the business that threw them out would be worse off for it. Vote with your dollar.

 

[Lucane]

(Hope i got the coding right)
Ok, where to start. "they weren't women." WELL NO SHIT!! That was the point, you can't tell immediately whether they are indeed female muslims or not. There in lies the problem: do you expose yourself to a security risk when the threat is so ambiguous? Obvious answer: NO. Secondly, why would you shop at a place that is discriminatory? I see people like that everywhere, who ***** about some store (walmart, bestbuy, verizon, etc.) and then shop there and use their services anyway and then complain when things aren't their way. JUST DON'T GO THERE. Spend you money where you think a business should be supported. It's a free country! No one is holding a gun at you telling you to shop there or face consequences.

What happens if every store becomes like that for them?

 

[Tattaglia]

No. It's their religion. Deal with it.

My religion requires that I wear a ski mask and carry a shotgun at all times, especially in banks. People should put themselves and their businesses at risk to conform with my ridiculous religion.

*facepalm*

Woaah, your rebuttal skills astound me.

Yes, I am ignoring the context, because cultural and religious tolerance are closer to my heart than retail security.

Why thank you, Mr Scott! You have perfectly summed up my feelings regarding this topic. Now, would you prefer one muffin or two? They're boysenberry, I'm afraid.

 

[Arachon]

Guess you know alot more about the laws against muslim women than Actual muslim women, cause everyone i've spoken to so far have said it to be a law enforced by their men, but i guess you know much better then those who have actually lived in countries where it was against the law.

Really now? Intresting... Most muslim women I've talked to has told me that the wear the Hajib as a choice of their own, not because they are forced to...

Anyhow, this is a very difficult question, on one hand, what gives us the right to decide what someone is going to wear, on the other, there's this "security risk". The headscarf version should be allowed EVERYWHERE though, no question about it...

 

[Azeban]

No. It's their religion. Deal with it.

My religion requires that I wear a ski mask and carry a shotgun at all times, especially in banks. People should put themselves and their businesses at risk to conform with my ridiculous religion.

*facepalm*

Woaah, your rebuttal skills astound me.

Yes, I am ignoring the context, because cultural and religious tolerance are closer to my heart than retail security.

Why thank you, Mr Scott! You have perfectly summed up my feelings regarding this topic. Now, would you prefer one muffin or two? They're boysenberry, I'm afraid.

I love when people ignore my argument entirely and instead resort to personal attacks. It really shows a unique understanding of the matter at hand.

Why should we have to be put at risk for their rules? People like to throw around the word tolerance...but what are you tolerating? You're tolerating, neigh condoning a practice that commands all women dress like penguins.

 

[Mr Scott]

No. It's their religion. Deal with it.

My religion requires that I wear a ski mask and carry a shotgun at all times, especially in banks. People should put themselves and their businesses at risk to conform with my ridiculous religion.

*facepalm*

Woaah, your rebuttal skills astound me.

Yes, I am ignoring the context, because cultural and religious tolerance are closer to my heart than retail security.

Why thank you, Mr Scott! You have perfectly summed up my feelings regarding this topic. Now, would you prefer one muffin or two? They're boysenberry, I'm afraid.

Pshaw, Don Tattaglia, boysenberry is my favorite muffin flavour.