he earned it but his family could easily pay it themselves and I trust he would spend it on school stuff but it,s more fair if it where to go to a poor kid.
Should P. Diddy's son return his scholarship money?
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If he was good enough to earn one, good for him, but it would seem highly flawed that a presumably limited budget gives that money to someone whose Dad is a millionaire many, many times over and wouldn't even notice the expenditure.
Surely the point is that he's good enough to be offered a scholarship? No one's saying he shouldn't have the place or that his achievement shouldn't be recognised, but the fact of the matter is that he in no way needs the money that's attached to that.
Whoever pays, it's presumably because of the guy's achievements, whether it's his dad or the school. And since the Dad has a far bigger pool of dolla from which to provide funding, it would make far more sense for it to be his dad.
Surely the point is that he's good enough to be offered a scholarship? No one's saying he shouldn't have the place or that his achievement shouldn't be recognised, but the fact of the matter is that he in no way needs the money that's attached to that.
Whoever pays, it's presumably because of the guy's achievements, whether it's his dad or the school. And since the Dad has a far bigger pool of dolla from which to provide funding, it would make far more sense for it to be his dad.
I agree.Regnes said:
If he wanted to earn some serious generosity points I certainly wouldn't hold it against him if he gave it up.
On the other hand, should he have any obligation whatsoever to give it up? No. Absolutely not, he earned that money fair and square and he worked hard for it. The fact that he already has money is irrelevant. Anyone saying that he should give it up just because he's rich is just wanting to get uppity at rich people because it makes them feel better, which is utterly juvenile.
On the other hand, should he have any obligation whatsoever to give it up? No. Absolutely not, he earned that money fair and square and he worked hard for it. The fact that he already has money is irrelevant. Anyone saying that he should give it up just because he's rich is just wanting to get uppity at rich people because it makes them feel better, which is utterly juvenile.
Should he have to give it back? No. From what I've read, he's earned the scholarship on his own merit and it's his. If he keeps it, good for him. However, it seems like an over-site on the Scholarship department to give a scholarship to such a young man who needs no financial assistance; while over-looking someone who does. I am happy he managed to earn it on his own merit, but giving him a scholarship doesn't actually seem to make any sense. I wouldn't want a scholarship, stripping it from another hopeful, if I could afford to attend otherwise. Not that that was his intention, mind.
Despite it not really making sense, if he wanted to give it back as a gesture of good-will, then that would be lovely and speaks to his good-nature. But he shouldn't have to. And if he didn't return it, I wouldn't really think any less of him. Well, I couldn't really, I haven't truly formed a real opinion on Combs' son because I didn't even know he existed until this thread.
Despite it not really making sense, if he wanted to give it back as a gesture of good-will, then that would be lovely and speaks to his good-nature. But he shouldn't have to. And if he didn't return it, I wouldn't really think any less of him. Well, I couldn't really, I haven't truly formed a real opinion on Combs' son because I didn't even know he existed until this thread.
To all those saying that "scholarships exist so that students who are less financially well off are able to go to a post-secondary institution" are entirely wrong. Scholarships exist for one and only one purpose, as a means for a university to attract desirable students, such as those with high grades, strong athletic performances, etc. They don't care about whether or not the student is living on welfare or is so rich that he uses money for toilet paper, they just want to get him to come to their school. To claim otherwise is inherently dishonest, as it blatantly ignores both the realities of scholarships and allows for a convinent dismissal of the other social factors restricting the access to post-secondary education to lower income families (ie, people just ignore the issue because "if you're smart enough, you'll get a scholarship"). If this was a BURSARY, which exists to aid students who are in financial need, you might have an argument, but as it is there is no case.
This is a merit-based scholarship, need is not relevant for it. It's the sort of thing that also looks very good on a CV, so he should be allowed to keep it even if he doesn't need the money. This sort of scholarship is given to the very best people, and if the boy was good enough to get it, then let him keep it, he earned it.
The point of a scholarship is not to help poor but brilliant students, it's an incentive for the very best, regardless of background, to go to the school that's offering the scholarship.
A bursary is financial aid for poor students, which is awarded based on need, but that's a very different thing. A bursary has no prestige attached to it, a scholarship often does because the competition for them is so fierce.
Why is it so wrong that he wants to make his own way in life? Of course his parents could donate an equal amount to the school, but that should be their choice and not an obligation. Also, aren't athletic scholarships payed for by the athletics department of the school? If so, it's not even taxpayer's money.
The point of a scholarship is not to help poor but brilliant students, it's an incentive for the very best, regardless of background, to go to the school that's offering the scholarship.
A bursary is financial aid for poor students, which is awarded based on need, but that's a very different thing. A bursary has no prestige attached to it, a scholarship often does because the competition for them is so fierce.
Why is it so wrong that he wants to make his own way in life? Of course his parents could donate an equal amount to the school, but that should be their choice and not an obligation. Also, aren't athletic scholarships payed for by the athletics department of the school? If so, it's not even taxpayer's money.
This. Especially the last part. It would have been the classy to return the money because his father has a bunch, but it's not like he applied for financial aid and took out student loans.UnendingLight said:
To be fair, there's another issue here. His father's money isn't his money. I'm unsure of the circumstances surrounding his childhood and how he was raised, but I suspect the money isn't in a giant "take it whenever you feel like it" bank account.
As for scholarships being awarded to those who need it, rather than to those who fit the base criteria- this is really a small fix for a larger problem. I'd argue that the number of students who need financial aid should be significantly smaller, and that the number is only so high due to institutions continuing to raise costs unnecessarily. (My uni has millions in their bank.)
Honestly he should give it up.. Not because he doesn't deserve it or hasn't earned it (to which I'm sure he does), but because he doesn't need it. Scholarships are meant to help those who have shown they have the capability and drive to succeed but need the financial backing in order to do so. He does not as he has access to a much deeper and completely sufficient financial backer. Supporting his child's education isn't only possible, but isn't even a strain on P. Diddy.
That said its a scholarship to play football which is something that sort of comes with the package of playing competitive football in college. If I wanted to play football at the college level, and someone not only said yes but offered to pay me as well I wouldn't say no either. However I would do something with those funds to either better the community/lifes of others or put myself (re-invest) in a better position to do those types of things later in life if I had my other expenses covered.
That said it is his money now, he did earn it, and its completely up to him what he decides to do with it. I simply think he should either give it to another person who both needs it and deserves it, or do something with the funds to help others.
That said its a scholarship to play football which is something that sort of comes with the package of playing competitive football in college. If I wanted to play football at the college level, and someone not only said yes but offered to pay me as well I wouldn't say no either. However I would do something with those funds to either better the community/lifes of others or put myself (re-invest) in a better position to do those types of things later in life if I had my other expenses covered.
That said it is his money now, he did earn it, and its completely up to him what he decides to do with it. I simply think he should either give it to another person who both needs it and deserves it, or do something with the funds to help others.
Who says his dad won't turn around and donate a larg(er) sum of money to the school now? The kid earned his place. I would hope his father does offer a large donation in return as he's financially capable and should support his son's education, but the kid worked hard and earned it. It's his.
I don't know anything about the American education system, other than it is like it's health system ... costs a fucking fortune.
Now, if there are 10 or so (aka limited) scholarships and a super rich kid gets one. That kid should be man enough to decline and give it to a poorer kid. If there are infinite scholarships and this kid gets one, then no harm.
Now, if there are 10 or so (aka limited) scholarships and a super rich kid gets one. That kid should be man enough to decline and give it to a poorer kid. If there are infinite scholarships and this kid gets one, then no harm.
If it was taxpayer dollars, then yes I would say he needs to give it back, but it wasn't in which case I think the school can award it to whom ever they like, The whole idea behind scholarships (academic ones)is that kids who have shown mental prowess, and yet lack the funds to go to a correspondingly good school get to. Athletic ones tend to exist to improve the sports team (meh, not that important in the grand scheme of things)
Having zero information, personally, about P Diddy's family, what I can say is this: In certain wealthy families, the parents will sometimes cut-off financial ties to the children in order to teach them self-reliance, this may or may not be the case. Also, if he legit earned something like a scholarship then it means that he is deserving of it because of his future contribution to the working world in whatever field he chooses, not simply because he needs the money.
Scholarships are awarded to people or persons who show great potential in the physical and intellectual fields. Yes, sometimes personal financial standing is a factor on scholarships, but it is not the only requirement, something many people fail to see.
Scholarships are awarded to people or persons who show great potential in the physical and intellectual fields. Yes, sometimes personal financial standing is a factor on scholarships, but it is not the only requirement, something many people fail to see.
I don't think he should be forced to give away his scholarship, but it would be classy of him to decline it. Making your way in life without any help is a noble ideal, but the reality is that the money could be put to better use.
...if he was awarded the money primarily due to his athletic ability, I say fuck him and fuck the people who gave him the scholarship. I am tired of paying extortionate tuition fees because the jocks of the university want a new football field or a new hockey rink. I would be mightily pissed off if my scholarship money had instead went to an athlete with lesser grades, I don't know why you Yanks put up with that BS. University should be about learning and career building, everything else is unimportant fluff. I don't know how many times I've heard a bunch of jocks arguing about whether to study for exams or go to practice...it's pathetic.
...if he was awarded the money primarily due to his athletic ability, I say fuck him and fuck the people who gave him the scholarship. I am tired of paying extortionate tuition fees because the jocks of the university want a new football field or a new hockey rink. I would be mightily pissed off if my scholarship money had instead went to an athlete with lesser grades, I don't know why you Yanks put up with that BS. University should be about learning and career building, everything else is unimportant fluff. I don't know how many times I've heard a bunch of jocks arguing about whether to study for exams or go to practice...it's pathetic.