Should you be allowed to hurt/kill kids in video games?

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Xaositect

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Yes absolutely and completely, so long as the same or possibly even worse consequences are given to that of murdering adults. Fallout and Baldur's Gate allowed you to kill children (even 'chunk' them, basically a gore explosion), and in return you basically were despised and attacked by pretty much everyone. The message is simple really: behave like a psychopath and the games inhabitants will put you down like one.

Im not advocating "Kidkiller 5000", but the chickenshit system people like Bethesda adopt is just pathetic. Not only is the game filled with invincible children who will threaten to "blow your fuckin head off", but so long as a child is physically the age of 16, it suddenly becomes fine.

An example: A young child who happens to have the physical age of a 16 year old, realistically is mentally only about 8 or 10 years old because he grew up in a town of children called Little Lamplight. This is because those idiots at Bethesda thought a town of invincible children with foul mouths and a tendency to murder adults would be "cool" and "funny", when really its just "unrealistic" and "bullshit". Anyway, this young boy gets exiled from Little Lamplight now that he is physically 16 and is in need of a escort. Of course now he has the body of a young adult, he can be mutilated at will, and potentially you are encouraged to because of his childish and irritating personally.

Now if that wasnt bad enough, the game lets you ENSLAVE children. That is just backwards logic, and put it simply, if you disagree, you are WRONG.

As I have pointed out before, the most recent Aliens vs Predator film (unsurprisingly a stinking pile of shit) depicted a young child hunting with his father having a "chest burster" funnily enough, bursting through his chest if I recall correctly. Also if memory serves, the very same film also depicts pregnant women in a ward in a hospital being massacred by aliens along with all the other patients.

Any game depicting such a thing would be fucked seven ways from Sunday before you could bat a child-murdering eye.

Its just bullshit to the fucking extreme.

Also, I imagine much of this post has probably been highlighted many times, so apologies, but I needed a rant on this what I consider an insult.
 

Amarok

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george144 said:
I already do kill kids, that the joy of mods for Fallout 3, oh I'm a Mungo am I, feel the wrath of my minigun.
I am so googling for that mod!
 

Ledan

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Yes you should be able to kill children in games.
If games hadn't started making kids unkillable, I don't think this forum or any like it would have started...
 

Spektre41

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I'd have to disagree.

I'm all for freedom of speech, but this is just tasteless.

inb4 lolhypocrisyiwanttoshootkids.
 

Xaositect

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Spektre41 said:
I'd have to disagree.

I'm all for freedom of speech, but this is just tasteless.

inb4 lolhypocrisyiwanttoshootkids.
Im about to leave, so I cant really get into a discussion about this. I will say this though, while I can see you point, you have to be very careful with your "tasteless" argument. Blowing a mans head of a watcing the stump spurt blood is tasteless. Killing an innocent animal is tasteless. Before you know it, gaming has fuck all because too many real life things are considered "tasteless" in virtual format.

Violence, to any and all, is a fact of life. Games shouldnt pussyfoot around that fact.
 

Magicman10893

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I just want to MUTILATE the children from Little Lamplight, not KILL them, you know, so they suffer as much pain as I do when I am forced to interact with them...

To be serious though, the lack of child death really detracts from the immersion. I mean I go bat shit crazy in Fallout 3 and start firing Mini Nukes in a town, and some how the children can survive a DIRECT IMPACT FROM 8 NUKES IN A ROW!!!! I CALL MASSIVE BULLSHIT!!! And also, why is it that Lord Lucien can shoot and KILL my sister when she is a kid and launch me out of the fuckin window when I was kid, but I can't return the favor to my annoying little brats that follow me around everywere.

P.S. Speaking of Fable 2, why do my WHITE wife and I have a BLACK son? It is really bothering me because he obviously can't be mine and I want some fuckin answers. If anyone knows why BOTH of my wives have a BLACK son when the both of us are WHITE, please tell my why before I go all apeshit on them...
 

Aedwynn

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Yes, if it's a game where you can kill random people you should be able to kill kids. Especially really annoying kids.

/My 2p.
 

ame.kiri.yuki

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I liked those kids. They had personality. It was incredibly irritating and rude personality, but still.

Doesn't mean I didn't want to stab them. But I still liked them.
 

Sigel

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I personally find it wrong and distasteful. I also would not like to give any political candidate any more canon fodder to shoot games with.
 

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theultimateend said:
TheDudeMan14 said:
In games like Fable 2, Fallout 3, Grand Theft Auto, and Prototype(just to name a few) you can't kill kids. Should game designers let you be able to kill/hurt kids.
Yes.

I want to give you a long drawn out reason why. But really there is no better reason beyond it being utterly nonsensical to not let you.

Games are not reality, anything done in them is not real, people who do terrible things that play games would have done terrible things if they didn't have games.

Game Actions do not lead to real life actions. So yes.

Damnit...that was longer than the original "Yes."

Pretty much nailed what I was going to say.
 

Gaderael

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No, games should not allow you to kill or hurt kids. They should allow you to do it to their digital representations though :D
 

A Raging Emo

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I think you should.

If you amde a game gruesome and realistic with realistic deaths, for children as well as adults, it would make you NOT want to kill everything.

The sad irony here is that if you did make it that realistic and gruesome, the rating would be higher. Not because you can kill children, but because it's gruesome.
 

Surreysmith

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I think its agreed that killing is killing no matter how old the victim is. And since video games aren't real then I really don't see what the problem is. If I went out in the street and shot the first kid I saw You'd think I was a monster, but would you think any differently if I went in the street and shot a middle aged man? No you wouldn't.
 

Fallingwater

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Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. Why? Because they have a tendency to make children in games incredibly irritating, and blowing their brains out would be a seriously satisfying experience.
 

Vendayn

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If you have Fallout 3 for PC, you can get a mod that allows you to kill kids. I always wipe out lamplight...hate that place. Hate it more than Tenpenny tower and its residents.

As for the topic itself...I don't see why not. Its just a game anyway.
 

Axelgear

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I think the consensus here is that it's fine and dandy and I add my vote to it. The little blighters should die like anyone else. Children are people too, so treat them like 'em.

In Fable 2, where's the fun if you have a family and can't go insane, shoot your wife, hack up your child and leave the house a bloody mess? I got so annoyed with them (I married a prostitute) and shot her, then found I can't target the kid.

Why? I don't want a child bothering me.
 
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Glefistus said:
GTA should not, because kids are not a part of their universe. Fallout, yes, as I want to MURDER THE FACE OFF EVERYONE IN LITTLE LAMPLIGHT.
True. True. I despise little Lamplight.. That.. Dang.... Princess....

As for the forum post, there's truly no use for killing children (except Princess) as it has no real use.

Except maybe Little Lamplight since they're a weapon-wielding society of children who probably drink and smoke and make a hobby of annoying everyone to death and continuously calling me mungo despite the fact that I (clenched teeth) SAVED their little.. stupid.. FRIENDS.. From a life of SLAVERY!! (Heavy breathing.)