Shud PSN owners be rewarded?

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TheComfyChair

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It was valve! To make all the desperate ps3 owners play portal 2 on PC!

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Anyway, this is the reason why the console network infrastructure sucks for ALL consoles (in the good ol' name of keeping us, the consumer cattle, all penned in). If it goes down you get nothing online at all. PC networks are spread across a vast number of different servers, so one going down will at worst only affect the online games of that publisher (like EA). It's why i think steam should act as a separate network within consoles, so at least the network going down doesn't affect things too much if games are split between the two.
 

jackpipsam

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Bags159 said:
kman123 said:
Dude, you already get it for free.
Yeah, I totally didn't have to buy a $600 system to gain access to it. You can't really use the, "dude it's free", logic here when that was one of their selling points when they first released the PS3.

Not that I'm really upset, just pointing out your flawed logic.
but the system doesn't have to be used online, so buying the system doesn't really work either.
 

Bags159

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jackpipsam said:
Bags159 said:
kman123 said:
Dude, you already get it for free.
Yeah, I totally didn't have to buy a $600 system to gain access to it. You can't really use the, "dude it's free", logic here when that was one of their selling points when they first released the PS3.

Not that I'm really upset, just pointing out your flawed logic.
but the system doesn't have to be used online, so buying the system doesn't really work either.
But it was a selling point. There'd really be no reason to complain about it if you're not PSN+, but I remember seeing it mentioned in an ad, on the box, or on a physical ad. I can't remember which since it's been a while.
 

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Irridium said:
Rewarded for what? Its an outage, it happens, shouldn't get you anything.

I have to deal with my internet going out all the time, but you don't see me demanding compensation. Well, except more stable internet, but nobody's selling that around here.
Totally off-topic, but did you see the last episode of Archer? Poor Stirling!

OT: No.

You don't pay for it (unless you pay for PSN+, in which case you're an idiot) so there's no monetary value lost.
 

mjc0961

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Nope. PSN is free, so you didn't pay money for a service you are being denied access to. Sony doesn't owe its customers anything but apologies, and since it is Sony, that's all their customers will get.

Chibz said:
Part marks. Xbox Live GOLD is paid for. Xbox Live in general is free for anyone. Gold is comparable PSN Plus.
That's why only Xbox Live Gold members deserve some kind of reimbursement if Xbox Live goes down on such a massive scale as PSN has.

...Wait, did you just say that Gold is comparable to PS+?

The only similarity between them is that you pay to access them. Beyond that, they're extremely different. Different enough that PS+ members don't deserve compensation for this outage either. All PS+ does is give you discounts on the Playstation Store, update your console when you're not around to do it yourself, and use the cloud for saves. Accessing the Playstation Store is a basic free feature for everyone, so you aren't losing anything other people don't have there. Firmware and game updates are a basic free feature for everyone, so you aren't losing anything other people don't have there either. And the cloud; it's free users who should be compensated there as the cloud should be for everyone (that or Sony should take away bullshit copy protection on saves so that free people can back up ALL of their saves and be able to restore them to a new console if needed). But anyway, the cloud is just one of multiple ways to back up save games, so because you aren't completely barred from backing up your saves while PSN is down, no compensation is needed for that either.

omega 616 said:
PS+ and DCUO aren't free, whould you want some compensation if you were in the pub club and the escapist went down?
DCUO players do deserve some kind of compensation though. They're paying a fee to access a game that they can no longer access. As for your Pub Club comparison, no I would not want some compensation if The Escapist went down. Pub Club is like PS+ (except Pub Club is a good deal and PS+ is not); it's just bonus features on top of the basic service. Example, the site goes down; I can't watch videos in high def with no ads, but nobody can watch any videos anyway. I lost the same thing as free members; why should I be compensated? Same with PS+: you can't access the store, but neither can all the free guys.

Bags159 said:
But it was a selling point. There'd really be no reason to complain about it if you're not PSN+, but I remember seeing it mentioned in an ad, on the box, or on a physical ad. I can't remember which since it's been a while.
When they remove Playstation Network as a feature, then this is an argument that will get you somewhere. But right now it's just down.
Oh, and if Sony ever did take away PSN, don't expect much to happen in your favor. Look at the poor guys who bought it for Install Other OS which was also a selling point. Sony took that away and they are all screwed.
 

jackpipsam

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Bags159 said:
jackpipsam said:
Bags159 said:
kman123 said:
Dude, you already get it for free.
Yeah, I totally didn't have to buy a $600 system to gain access to it. You can't really use the, "dude it's free", logic here when that was one of their selling points when they first released the PS3.

Not that I'm really upset, just pointing out your flawed logic.
but the system doesn't have to be used online, so buying the system doesn't really work either.
But it was a selling point. There'd really be no reason to complain about it if you're not PSN+, but I remember seeing it mentioned in an ad, on the box, or on a physical ad. I can't remember which since it's been a while.
the fact that it says "playable online" isn't a selling point since 2005 (unless your a non gamer and you don't know that more things other than email can be done online)
 

jackpipsam

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mjc0961 said:
Bags159 said:
But it was a selling point. There'd really be no reason to complain about it if you're not PSN+, but I remember seeing it mentioned in an ad, on the box, or on a physical ad. I can't remember which since it's been a while.
When they remove Playstation Network as a feature, then this is an argument that will get you somewhere. But right now it's just down.
Oh, and if Sony ever did take away PSN, don't expect much to happen in your favor. Look at the poor guys who bought it for Install Other OS which was also a selling point. Sony took that away and they are all screwed.

also backwards compatible been taken away
 

icame

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S*** happens. You can't honestly expect compensation from a free service simply because they are out for a couple days. It would be the same for xbox live.
 

icame

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jackpipsam said:
icame said:
It would be the same for xbox live.
last time I remember when LIVE was down in auz everybody (in auz) got a free arcade game
Probably could have worded it better...

What I mean is that imo, it should also be that way for xbox live.
 

jackpipsam

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icame said:
jackpipsam said:
icame said:
It would be the same for xbox live.
last time I remember when LIVE was down in auz everybody (in auz) got a free arcade game
Probably could have worded it better...

What I mean is that imo, it should also be that way for xbox live.
it's very later... well early really
 

Sniper Team 4

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While I certainly wouldn't say "No," to a free reward--perhaps a twenty dollar credit to the store--I don't think we deserve one. Still, it'd be nice.

Off Topic: Okay look, I'm sorry, but is there a reason you spelled "should" the way you did?
 

Kadoodle

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Honestly, I feel that I have a right to free multiplayer. It should be a given. I didn't have to pay for multiplayer when I had a PC, so I wouldn't want to pay with any other system.

Now, I'd love to

A: Get into the infamous 2 beta
B: Get one free DLC download.
 

EHKOS

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No_Remainders said:
warcraft4life said:
Did xbox not go down around Christmas a few years ago and everyone got a free arcade game?

Something like this would be nice (LOLJK I DON'T OWN A PS3) but not necessary..!
Don't think so?

But that'd be totally different anyway. LIVE: Paid for

PSN: Free.
Actually LIVE is free. Only the Gold members would be left out.