Sick of MovieBob Bashing Call of Duty?

[lithiumvocals]

Moviebob frustrates me. I honestly believe he "gets" movies and I generally enjoy his reasoned criticisms and insight on movies. I wish that was how he always acted. Unfortunately, whenever he dislikes something, he has a tendency to crucify in an incredibly immature and unprofessional way. And his views on gaming tend to stray in to this side of him. The "immature fanboy", not the "reasonable critic". The most egregious example, in my opinion, is Halo. Yeah, I'm a fan of Halo, so when someone tries to find any and every way to bash it, like Bob, it annoys me. And it unfortunately gets in the way of me enjoying his other stuff.


CAPTCHA: Cookie Cutter

...

Captcha, are you trying to tell us something?

 

[Zing]

Hamburgler = COD
The kid = me


It's time to let go people.

 

[McMarbles]

Am I the only one getting tired of hearing MovieBob constantly bash the Call of Duty franchise? After reading his latest post on his blog, it?s become extremely apparent that he?s simply looking for any excuse to take pot-shots at the games. Apparently anything that shows the military in a positive light doesn?t sit well with Bob. What is really ironic is that Bob has stated before that games need to have political controversy, and not be judged negatively for it if the medium is to grow. Yet Call of Duty comes along and might have a political message (we know for sure until the game is actually released) and Bob is trying to crucify the game because it doesn?t agree with his viewpoints and opinions. What?s the message that Bob is trying to get across? That it?s okay to have a political message only if MovieBob agrees with it?

http://gameoverthinker.blogspot.com/2012/07/cod-black-ops-iis-villain-is-occupy.html#more

CoD's a big boy. It can take care of itself. It can handle a catastrophe like one guy on the internet not liking it.

 

[KrabbiPatty]

Moviebob is an intensely hypocritical asshole who understands nothing about half the damn things he says. Even his fucking grip of movies is bare bones and his constant wanking to Nintendo is so asinine at first I thought he was doing a sarcastic critque of such people...that's my naivety showing through right there.

But what should I expect. He's part of the "Extra Credits Clique" and like every clique they're incredibly insensitive douchebags who believe ONLY their beliefs are valid and everyone else is somehow against them. He's no different than Max Scoville over on Destructoid or Daniel Floyd over on EC, the three of them are the main mouthpieces for the whole movement really (Bob=Bill o'Reilly, Scoville=Glen Beck, EC=Rush Limbuagh) and at the end of the day they won't be happy until everything they dismiss as "dudebro" and "immature" (which is, of course, neither but bigotry is fun) is gone. To do this of course they passive aggressively bully people into falling in line like good sheep.

Indeed Movie Bob has SAID this before. "If we can't drive them out of gaming, we can at least shame them into changing".

Replace "dudebro" with some racial slur not only does the thrust of the sentence remain unchanged but it would mean Moviebob almost said something daring or edgy, but unfortunately for his fetid clique of fans he's chosen the absolutely more boring, petty, impotent kind of hate to tie his wagon to. How predictable. If he can't be bothered to exert himself in real life why do so on the internet, after all?

 

[Vault101]

I agree and disagree with him

his constant nintendo wanking is really really annoying but he also has good points in other areas

so its 50/50

 

[Spartan448]

I more or less watch him at this point to see what kind of unfounded shit he comes up with next. Very first episode on the Escapist, he manages to turn the Halo: REACH trailer into some sort of neo-nazi Aryan conspiracy. In all seriousnes, I think Moviebob probably wants to be a tabloid writer rather than a movie or game reviewer. There are people a thousand more qualified to do the job he fails at doing (Extra Credits (Which really should come back to the Escapist), Yhatzee (Hope I spelled that right), even GameInformer, mainstream piece of garbage they are today). I am a firm believer that Moviebob should either stick to reviewing movies or leave the Escapist. Call of Duty has become way too conservative in my opinion, too, but not on the level Moviebob claims it is. On Extra Credits they talk all the time about how we don't need people spouting wild conspiracy theories, or acting like harassment and descrimination is a part of the medium. They don't help our culture become any more accepted in society, and it sure as hell doesn't contribute to making better games, games that are willing to challenge what we believe are societal norms. There are a lot of people these days that are making the medium better.

Moviebob is NOT one of them.

 

[Vault101]

I think he made that clear when he was bashing them in a gameoverthinker video and he said "your call of war and gears of duty". I know he was being ironic, but he said it in such a smug way like he was better than anyone who liked it. Plus, you only need to see his videos on mass effect to his how he gives his 2 trillion cents on a subject he even admits he knows nothing of, as he said he never played an ME game through to the end. BUT he still condemned people who wanted the endings changed, and even when he tried to say he wasn't judging everyone who wanted an extended cut he pretty much said "your still fucking stupid". I've known since his Other M video he can be a smug asshole sometimes but he is mostly a smart guy who has great ideas, but he is only ever cool with HIS ideas. I only ever watch Escape to the movies and sometimes The Big picture now.

I only even saw him touch upon the mass effect thign in one of his big picture episodes here (I think)

did he make other vids about ME?

 

[WanderingFool]

Funny thing, I was in the same camp as you when I first watched Jim. It wasnt until his videos about art games that I realized its all really bad humor, but with some good points to start one thinking.

Hey, i like Jim's humour now, it grows on you lol.

Meh, I still think his humor is grating, but thats just me. And like I said, it doesnt stop me from agreeing with some of his view points.

*Edit*

I think he made that clear when he was bashing them in a gameoverthinker video and he said "your call of war and gears of duty". I know he was being ironic, but he said it in such a smug way like he was better than anyone who liked it. Plus, you only need to see his videos on mass effect to his how he gives his 2 trillion cents on a subject he even admits he knows nothing of, as he said he never played an ME game through to the end. BUT he still condemned people who wanted the endings changed, and even when he tried to say he wasn't judging everyone who wanted an extended cut he pretty much said "your still fucking stupid". I've known since his Other M video he can be a smug asshole sometimes but he is mostly a smart guy who has great ideas, but he is only ever cool with HIS ideas. I only ever watch Escape to the movies and sometimes The Big picture now.

I only even saw him touch upon the mass effect thign in one of his big picture episodes here (I think)

did he make other vids about ME?

Yeah... if you watched his Big Picture video, its like that, but significantly more, as here he has to deal with people who dont agree with him. On Screw-attack (where his GOT videos are), he has almost all fans that agree with him on everything...

 

[KrabbiPatty]

and your letting what some one says bother you because....?

who cares what he say about your boring, brow/gray 'realistic military shooters' running on a false level of maturity. (see? i can do it to) if you like it, why should what me, him or anyone else says about it matter even in the slightest.

unless your not having as much fun as you think you are and your getting bent out of shape about such things cause they're right and your in denial

I specifically wanted to respond to this:

Where did THIS logical fallacy come from? That the only reason soemone doesn't want something they love insulted is because they're "not having as much fun as they want to believe"? Even Yahtzee uses that and I have no idea where this originated.

Look, dude, lady, whatever...that is so completely ass backwards illogical I almost have no idea how to properly explain to you how wrong you are. THE ONLY REASON to give a damn AT ALL about what someone else thinks is if they're insulting something you care about. Because nothing else matters really, since one person's opinion has little or no weight, so of course I'm angry you and Bob and your friends constantly insult me and my friends and my games because--hold on imma blow your mind--I GIVE A DAMN.

If I DIDN'T give a damn I wouldn't care, the fact I care means I give a damn...follow?

Or here let me word it differently: WHY do you need to bash this, unless you're not as sure in your beliefs as you say and are in denial...oh wait no, that's stupid, you bash it because you CARE one way or t'other. If you didn't care you wouldn't even think about it. The fact you speak up means you care, the fact you care is why you speak up. GET IT? GET IT? GET FRAKKING IT?

Christ almighty, have we become so obsessed with hipster semantics we can't even grasp the concept of CARING about stuff and not wanting to see it destroyed? Are we all so "too cool for the room" and ironic now that we just have to "get the joke" and laugh along even when people say wildly untrue or vitriolic things about something we love? What kind of society has Kevin Smith movies wrought?!

Yes I love COD, I also love Halo, way more in fact. I also loves Gears of War, and DOA, and Quake and Doom and--here comes mind blow number two--I also love Star Fox, Metroid and Pikmin.

STUNNINGLY, SHOCKINGLY, INCONCEIVABLY...I can like both retro games with fun mascots characters and implausible neon colors as well as modern games with more realistic settings and characters and colors that actually exist in nature. And if Bob were sqwaking like a moron about, I dunno, Pikmin I'd be just as pissed off, and I'd be just as angry if the internet suddenly decided, with no reason, that Star Fox 64 and Super Metroid were "bad" games based on some completely arbitrary bullshit like "the color isn't bright enough" or "it has guns in it" or "it isn't made by Japan for children, ergo the maturity demonstrably present is not real somehow" (which are literally the arguments you're making) then I would be just as angry and react just as I do now.

Because I give a damn.

 

[iyaerP]

Speaking as someone who thinks that the call of duty franchise and what it represents is bad for the gaming industry, and more specifically, the gaming industry's consumers as a whole, I have to say that yeah, I can agree with bashing it.

Because it isn't just that they are remaking varients on the same game. It is literally the same game. Each "new" iteration is what any sane and reasonable gaming company would consider a balance patch and a mission pack rolled into one. And the more that Call of Duty succeeds in selling billions of dollars worth of games, the more that other gaming companies will see this and try to emulate Activision's approach. Which is to water down the market with more of the same dross year after year, with no innovation, no improvements to the engine of the game or the play mechanics. Having played at least half of the various incarnations of the franchise, I can safely claim that the gameplay is literally identical. I do the exact same things on the exact same maps from one version to the next. Maybe the rifle I am using is slightly different, and I am an SAS commando rather than a Delta operator, but that is it.

And frankly, I for one don't want to see the gaming industry do that. It was bad enough when it was only Fifa soccer and John Madden football. Now we have to see this shit from shooters as well. Next up is Starcraft, and from there, nothing is safe or sacred. I really think that Valve is the only industry heavyweight left that cares.

 

[KrabbiPatty]

I only even saw him touch upon the mass effect thign in one of his big picture episodes here (I think)

did he make other vids about ME?

Yes. Three, I think.

Let me save you time and reenact them, ALL of them:

"Well, I never played the game or seen the ending more than once, but here's why I know what I'm talking about...ahem, reasons. I'M MOVIE BOB AND GIVE ME SITE TRAFFIC PLOX!!!!"



Ironic captcha: Less Is More.
You're right, less Moviebob would make the world more just and good.

 

[Lee Quitt]

Personally, Just how many people buy COD for the story rather then the Massive and Addicting Multi-Player?
...
...
...
...
That's what I thought...

At the Eb Games store i work in, about 20%. Yeah i know its crazy hey?

 

[Spartan448]

Moviebob is an intensely hypocritical asshole who understands nothing about half the damn things he says. Even his fucking grip of movies is bare bones and his constant wanking to Nintendo is so asinine at first I thought he was doing a sarcastic critque of such people...that's my naivety showing through right there.

But what should I expect. He's part of the "Extra Credits Clique" and like every clique they're incredibly insensitive douchebags who believe ONLY their beliefs are valid and everyone else is somehow against them. He's no different than Max Scoville over on Destructoid or Daniel Floyd over on EC, the three of them are the main mouthpieces for the whole movement really (Bob=Bill o'Reilly, Scoville=Glen Beck, EC=Rush Limbuagh) and at the end of the day they won't be happy until everything they dismiss as "dudebro" and "immature" (which is, of course, neither but bigotry is fun) is gone. To do this of course they passive aggressively bully people into falling in line like good sheep.

Indeed Movie Bob has SAID this before. "If we can't drive them out of gaming, we can at least shame them into changing".

Replace "dudebro" with some racial slur not only does the thrust of the sentence remain unchanged but it would mean Moviebob almost said something daring or edgy, but unfortunately for his fetid clique of fans he's chosen the absolutely more boring, petty, impotent kind of hate to tie his wagon to. How predictable. If he can't be bothered to exert himself in real life why do so on the internet, after all?

While I agree with most of what you say, I'm a bit puzzled that you think that Moviebob and Max Scoville are anything like Extra Credits. I have found them to be a very even-handed source of information, admitting the faults and advantages of the medium it supports. I've always thought of Extra Credits as more of a New York Times in a sea of MSNBCs and Fox Newses.

Can't exactly fault them for starting an Indie Development Support Fund, either.

 

[galdon2004]

So he makes a short post about disliking CoD choosing to get political and downright vilify the occupy protestors by making a barely altered version of them the main villains in the trailer and suddenly you are up in arms looking for blood?

Either you really really hate the occupy protestors too much to realize they have freedom of speech, or you just really want an excuse to be mad.

Oddly enough; if all the 'villain' is doing is posting on youtube and riling up the people to change the nation's policies, wouldn't that make the black ops the real villains for violating freedom of speech and violently suppressing a perceived threat to the current political powers?

 

[KrabbiPatty]

Obviously it was Cortis Die's right to FREE SPEECH to hijack government property and unleash it on Los Angeles, killing millions of innocents including children and the poor they claim to protect...

Wait a second...


HOLY SHIT, you guys, I just realized! What if Cortis Die just SAY they care about the 99% and Occupy and all that...but they're really just genocidal maniacs looking to conquer the world like every other tyrant in history, and like every other tyrant in history they pretend to care about the little guy to get him on their side before stabbing him in the back so they can make a grasp for power! You know like Castro, Julius Caesar, Napoleon, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Colonel Gaddafi and Pol Pot!

Oh wow...holy crap, this is...this is unheard of! Villains...acting like villains? L-LYING even!?!??

MY MIND *head explodes*

 

[Eddie the head]

I only even saw him touch upon the mass effect thign in one of his big picture episodes here (I think)

did he make other vids about ME?

Yeah he did two you can see them on youtube. If you ask me he misses the point more then Yahtzee did, but you know if you feel you need to see it ok.