Sims 4 update removed gender restrictions

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Elfgore

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If you haven't heard yet, The Sims 4 just released an update I can see causing controversy. This update makes it so pretty much any clothing, hair, body type, and voice option are readily available for all genders. Hell, I could've swore I read that you can go no gender somewhere.

The Dev team explained their decision to do this as so;

"The Sims is made by a diverse team for a diverse audience, and it's really important to us that players are able to be creative and express themselves through our games. We want to make sure players can create characters they can identify with or relate to through powerful tools that give them influence over a Sims gender, age, ethnicity, body type and more.

So, no matter how you like to play, we hope this update to Create A Sim gives you plenty of new options. Personally, we've had a ton of fun exploring how good many of the short hair male hairstyles look on the female Sims, and vice versa. And we?re just getting started checking out how outfits and styles look on totally different body types."



Source: Sims.com link [https://www.thesims.com/news/new-cas-update]

So how do ya'll feel about this? Happy? Angry?
 

Barbas

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*Shrug*. More options is better, whether you're playing it seriously or taking the mick.
 

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Good. A game about doing what you want should let you do what you want. Not like hair styles conform to genitals.
 

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As Barbas said, more options would improve the game. It's a game based around customisation so it's an entirely reasonable addition. If you don't like the new options, don't use them.

I haven't really seen any backlash against it but c'mon, this is the internet. The anti-SJW brigade is probably foaming at the mouth at The Sims pushing its "liberal agenda".
 
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Neat. More options are cool. Glad they did this.

In fact, I'm sad when games don't. I mean, what if I wanna make a badass swordsman who has the super-long female-only hair because why not? XD

In fact, mishmashing male and female parts together was one of the first things I did to the Character creator tool in the new RPGmaker. It adds a lot of new possibilities. That and there's no way a smirk or headphones should be female-only while a cocky grin should never be male only. :p
 

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I do wonder, I mean, Sims is not really "hardcore" game by any stretch of the meaning and most people forgot the series even existed by now.
It's still popular among women and children. So I guess some "think of the children" argument might get put forth somewhere... But who the heck really cares.

I just remember the absolutely monstrous "human" beings I made back in The Sims 2. It's all in the sliders. Though I still hate the franchise.
 

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I could see this making a particular kind of person angry, but um so what? It can be looked at as simply extending sim creation options. Though the sims dose have a odd relationship with LBTG. They never seemed to be fully in or fully out. it's always had the ability to have gay sims*, but they haven't included any premade gay sims and gay sims couldn't get married just um joined. (According to the wiki it was even worth less points to be joined then married.)


*Oh I have a funny story about this actually. One time I was showing the sims 1 to my aunt and she wanted to know if you could have gay sims, so I was showing her how you you could have two guys flit and go on a date. Out of nowhere a woman walks up to my gay flirt fest and kisses my sim. It was timed just so to look like a intended game feature where anytime things got to gay a strait kiss would brake it up. I was so embarrassed.
 

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Cool, I guess. I have no interest in playing The Sims 4 but I can't complain when people who are interested just get more choices for their characters. I haven't seen much reaction one way or the other anywhere else either, really. So life goes on.
 

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Its honestly now I think of it strange a game with so much gay sex in it was even restricting this in the first place.

I guess restricting such things was just the default choice for the programmers and they didnt think about it. Cause it really doesnt matter and hey some of those sims dont even look trans, like afroguy or the edgy hairflick asian guy.
 

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Fieldy409 said:
Its honestly now I think of it strange a game with so much gay sex in it was even restricting this in the first place.

I guess restricting such things was just the default choice for the programmers and they didnt think about it. Cause it really doesnt matter and hey some of those sims dont even look trans, like afroguy or the edgy hairflick asian guy.
So the story goes is that the programmer for the sims 1 secretly added gay sex because they were angry at EA and thought it would get them into trouble. It kind of ended up sticking, but EA has kind of been a little ancy about it. They never intended it to be a thing, in part because they wanted to sell the game in places what didn't allow gay content, but they got stuck with it and couldn't take it out without upsetting fans..

Also I think hairflip is a woman? Maybe?
 

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nomotog said:
included any premade gay sims
Now, this has been quite some time ago. But I swear I recall playing the Sims 2 and as a male character started flirting with a female NPC and getting a hard no from her. I think a little box came up effectively saying "I don't swing that way".
 

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Yuke's Co. sits in the corner, bitterly wondering what the big deal is.

Heh, heh, not knocking the decision. It's neat. Just find it amusing how Maxis is finally doing something that wrestling games, literally the worst at this kind of thing, have been doing for years. Not sure if they allow it any more tho. Yuke's got softlocked by Visual Concepts.
 
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Neat.

Although it doesn't affect me anyway, cause it's been ages since i've played any Sims. Do EA still sticks to "fuck their wallets over and over" DLC policy?
 
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nomotog said:
So the story goes is that the programmer for the sims 1 secretly added gay sex because they were angry at EA and thought it would get them into trouble. It kind of ended up sticking, but EA has kind of been a little ancy about it. They never intended it to be a thing, in part because they wanted to sell the game in places what didn't allow gay content, but they got stuck with it and couldn't take it out without upsetting fans..
I think the angry programmer story was from SimCopter, with the gay people kissing easter egg. I don't know, I found an article saying Maxis and was cool with the gay sex (or kissing, since woohoo was added later), and EA didn't exactly think that this game would actually be a success.

Elfgore said:
nomotog said:
included any premade gay sims
Now, this has been quite some time ago. But I swear I recall playing the Sims 2 and as a male character started flirting with a female NPC and getting a hard no from her. I think a little box came up effectively saying "I don't swing that way".
I remember reading that Sims in the Sims 2 had a secret gender preference stat, so I looked on the wiki and found out that every newly created Sims or townie is completely neutral. Flirting with a gender would change their gender preference. However, this stat only dictates autonomous flirting and not flirting success, so technically everyone is bisexual, I guess.

I remember playing the Dreamers in Pleasantview and the dad was doing naughty stuff with a close male friend in the hot tub. I was quite surprised that happened. I didn't plan hooking him up with someone, but I guess that close friend got him.
 

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It's been a long time since I've played the Sims and I never played 4 but are outfits set in place? Like sleeping/working/casual or is there a randomness to it? Like, would this allow Maculino the masculine to turn up to someones house in a brilliant evening dress or is it all set in the editor until you physically change it yourself?