Since when was Being a Man Unattractive?

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Chipperz said:
OK, riddle me this... A guy walks through a door first, sees a woman walking behind him and holds the door open. There's noone else behind her. Is this him being sexist?

According to many, many stupid fucking feminists (SFFs for short), this is sexist. Pointing this out is a sure-fire way to get a door slammed in your face.
The difference is in continued habit. Even if there's only one person that time, if another time he chose not to because the person behind him was not female then it's sexist. The important thing is the choice made more than once.
 

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OneBig Man said:
It is always some thug or some hippie/emo whatever who thinks he cool.
Explanation:
Thug: Ok I have no clue on this one, probably because the girl is scared of what will happen if she rejects him.

Hippie: Hippies are so much fun to hang out with, they're just all around awesome.

Emo: Girls find emos really attractive, it has to do with the whole hair in your face thing (try it sometime, I guarantee from personal experience that significantly more girls will be interested in you). Also emos tend to have a sensitive side, and are often just as chivalrous as you.


My 2 cents, take it or leave it.
 

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Just keep up the chivalry til someone appreciates you being a gentleman. Worked for me!

On another note, hippies don't spend 20 minutes on their hair, and emos spend longer, so unless it was some kind of average...
 

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OneBig Man said:
why does it seem like girls like a-holes instead of decent people.
huuuuuu... These are the things we ask ourselves, my friend. I partially blame MTV, and the media in general. They picture how high school and college and social life etc are suppose to be, and some girls want to live up to that, and its SCARY. I see it in my sister. I also see retardation in it. Social networking hasn't helped either, but I don't want to type about that right now.
 

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Labyrinth said:
Chipperz said:
OK, riddle me this... A guy walks through a door first, sees a woman walking behind him and holds the door open. There's noone else behind her. Is this him being sexist?

According to many, many stupid fucking feminists (SFFs for short), this is sexist. Pointing this out is a sure-fire way to get a door slammed in your face.
The difference is in continued habit. Even if there's only one person that time, if another time he chose not to because the person behind him was not female then it's sexist. The important thing is the choice made more than once.
That doesn't matter to most women, though. The simple fact that I hold the door for everyone is enough to make me sexist to most SFFs, and I really don't know why I do it at all.

Telling these women to fuck off and die is quite nice, though. It just confirms that I'm sexist because not only do I believe that they aren't strong enough to open a door, I don't respect them enough as a woman to not swear at them. Because a large part of being a feminist is being a hypocritical moron.
 

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Most women are shallow and worthless individuals. As are most men. If they pick the douche they are not worth it.
 

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Fappy said:
Most women are shallow and worthless individuals. As are most men. If they pick the douche they are not worth it.
Wow, I was about to be pissed until I read the second half of that. lol
 
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gof22 said:
This is one of the many reasons that I stay single. I don't want to deal with the hassle of a relationship.
Your case is getting more compelling as this thread wears on.... I don't really know how I feel about that. Haha.

manythings said:
How many novels centre around a guy trying to be decent? I can't name one and I'm trying.
The only one I can think of is The Idiot. I suppose the title only reinforces the point you were trying to make...and also the ending. Dear God, what a depressing novel.
 

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Wardog13 said:
Fappy said:
Most women are shallow and worthless individuals. As are most men. If they pick the douche they are not worth it.
Wow, I was about to be pissed until I read the second half of that. lol
GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN!
 

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OneBig Man said:
I wish I was born at least 2 generations ago.
I find it really funny that only young, white males echo this sentiment over and over and over again.

No one else in the world wants to live in the past. It just plain sucked back then compared to now.

By the way, guys, she's not sleeping with you because you're nice. She's not sleeping with you because she either doesn't find you physically/socially attractive and/or finds your whining/lack of confidence really unattractive.

Nice guys don't finish last. Unattractive guys who have no self confidence and only complain about how being "nice" makes them so lonely finish last. At least guys who you consider jerks are more fun to be with for the girls you're attracted to; how about trying to find more compatible girls?
 

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Trust me, being born two generations ago will not make you more appealing to women.

I assure you, they would have been nailing someone hotter, (richer) at the first opportunity back then too.
 

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Contextualizer said:
OneBig Man said:
I wish I was born at least 2 generations ago.
I find it really funny that only young, white males echo this sentiment over and over and over again.

No one else in the world wants to live in the past. It just plain sucked back then compared to now.

By the way, guys, she's not sleeping with you because you're nice. She's not sleeping with you because she either doesn't find you physically/socially attractive and/or finds your whining/lack of confidence really unattractive.

Nice guys don't finish last. Unattractive guys who have no self confidence and only complain about how being "nice" makes them so lonely finish last. At least guys who you consider jerks are more fun to be with for the girls you're attracted to; how about trying to find more compatible girls?
the OP is not entirely off though. it is a common observation that all nice girls are with total douchenozzles, and all nice guys got some total ***** for a girlfriend^^

well not all of them maybe, but you catch my drift ;P
 

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Chipperz said:
Because a large part of being a feminist is being a hypocritical moron.
You must've missed the bit where I said I'm a feminist, right?

For the rest of it I think there are a lot of flaws in culture as a whole. If a woman only sees you open a door for her and assumes chauvanism, it's a little like assuming someone's straight because the observer sees them kiss once, and it's someone of the opposing sex.
 

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the OP is not entirely off though. it is a common observation that all nice girls are with total douchenozzles, and all nice guys got some total ***** for a girlfriend^^

well not all of them maybe, but you catch my drift ;P
This might be true in middle school, but it's hardly the case once you're in the real world.

The only thing more unattractive than a jerk is a guy who can't stop complaining about how nice he is. To get into this negative worldview of how men and women (or in the case of this community, boys and girls) interact is a trap guaranteeing (and reinforcing) one's loneliness and antipathy towards women.

I *cannot* overstate this.
 

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Contextualizer said:
the OP is not entirely off though. it is a common observation that all nice girls are with total douchenozzles, and all nice guys got some total ***** for a girlfriend^^

well not all of them maybe, but you catch my drift ;P
This might be true in middle school, but it's hardly the case once you're in the real world.

A jerk is only marginally more unattractive than a guy who can't stop complaining about how nice he is. I *cannot* overstate this.
This is true. On the opposite side of the coin I finally broke up with a super ***** of a girl friend of two years about 6 months ago because... well because she was a ***** and recently started dating a really nice girl who lets me keep to myself when I want to... and I'm not entirely sure I plan to stay with her... its not all black and white.
 

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Actually my approach to girls tends to work well. I'm like you, respectful, appreciative and everything the "modern day gentleman" should be. However, there is a fine line between subservience and being respectful/chivalrous.

If you can be confident whilst also maintaining the gentlemanliness aspect it tends to help things a lot. And don't be afraid to treat women like equals, some girls don't like to be treated a whole lot differently just because they're female.
 

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Contextualizer said:
the OP is not entirely off though. it is a common observation that all nice girls are with total douchenozzles, and all nice guys got some total ***** for a girlfriend^^

well not all of them maybe, but you catch my drift ;P
This might be true in middle school, but it's hardly the case once you're in the real world.

The only thing more unattractive than a jerk is a guy who can't stop complaining about how nice he is. To get into this negative worldview of how men and women (or in the case of this community, boys and girls) interact is a trap guaranteeing (and reinforcing) one's loneliness and antipathy towards women.

I *cannot* overstate this.
i don't know man, it can be observed often enough with young adults..but i'll admit less frequent.
 

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OneBig Man said:
What happened to chivalry? During my whole childhood my dad taught me to be respectful to women. I would open doors for them, I wouldn't cuss in front of them, I would help them when they needed it. Hell the only fight I ever got into was beacuse I saw some dude hit a girl.

Yet after everything I do, I'm still left for the douchebag whose only goal is to get in her pants? I see it all the time. It is always some thug or some hippie/emo whatever who thinks he cool. I mean it seems that you have to spend over 20 minutes each day on your hair in order to get noticed anymore.

I wish I was born at least 2 generations ago.


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Just to be clear, I don't assume every girl in the world should love me. All I am asking is why does it seem like girls like a-holes instead of decent people.
That's a pretty huge generalisation, mate. Not all humans behave in the same manner when presented with the same situation. Some girls go off with unpleasant eejits because they think they might be able to "change them" (an impossibility, by the way), and others take one look and say, "Not for me". Hell, we guys can be pretty horrendous judges of character at times, so who are we to judge girls for making the odd poor choice? *laughs*