Skill or Cheating?

[mjc0961]

So I was accused of cheating earlier in Red Dead Redemption. Why? Because I had about 20 kills, and 18 headshots, while the next best player had about 6 or 7 total kills.
How did I do so well? Auto aim, then a bit up for a headshot. I do this often, and it works fine. (I wont pretend I am super amazing, I know auto aim is 80% of it)

Despite telling the rest of the players how I achieve my scores, I was accused of cheating by many of the -other- team (which is something I plan on talking about later)

Now, this is not asking you all to believe me, but I am curious if you have ever been accused of cheating due to doing well, or if you are the kind to assume one is cheating if their score is rather much higher than everyone elses?

I actually do get suspicious too of exceptionally high scorers, however I try to refrain from acusations until I have proof (saying you are cheating counts as proof, so saying you are using a program to cheat is just stupid)

That's not cheating. RDR has expert aim only modes for multiplayer that they can play if they don't want to be in games where people are using auto-aim to their advantage. The way I see it they have two choices. One, move to the no auto-aim game lists and play those. Two, deal with it because you aren't doing anything wrong. Auto-aim plus aiming up slightly for easy headshots is such a well known thing that I'm surprised there are still people who don't know about it.

 

[Potato21]

If I'm playing with friends and I start to do well then my friends always start trying to convince the server I am cheating, sometimes the enemy believes them

 

[The Geek Lord]

Generally any time I actually win in PvP in MMORPGs. And by that I mean one time in one MMORPG, fighting a guy thirty levels below me, who agro'd me first.

There is a specific reason I avoid games where the main point of multiplayer is killing each other.

 

[BRMXJzjsoawk321]

When I go into random pub games on Left 4 Dead and abuse crouch and ladder glitches I get accused of "speed hacking".. Sigh. That and shooting boomers through walls.. Accused of wall hacking..

 

[Optimus Hagrid]

Fondly I remember first being accused of aimbotting during my first match of TF2 on the PC, after playing the 360 version for about a year...

 

[Premonition]

I just hate that most greatly skilled people on online players are either cheaters or have twitch reflexes of a four year old, probably because they are around that age >_>

 

[Megacherv]

in TF2 i get accused of cheating when i kill people with my bonesaw and blutsauger. BATTLE MEDIC BABY!!!! (not cheats)

High-fives for battle medic!

On TF2, one guy on our clan's server was constantly yelled at by some dick claiming that him and the others in his clan (affiliated with our clan) were all cheating. He got (maybe perma-)banned that night.

 

[Sephychu]

Happened to me once on TF2. Somebody was convinced I was aimbotting when actually I was just doing really well. I think it was largely because he didn't know I could see him so well.

 

[mrdude2010]

Almost every day in mw2 (at least on days when i'm actually doing good). I remember there already was a thread like this though.

Funny thing happened once: was in a turret on an open map (wasteland, for those who play mw2) and there was no one around so i just shot randomly into some bushes. Result: headshot the guy on the other side without even seeing him. I knew where i was aiming, but i really didn't expect to get a kill. Man did the guy rage afterwards.

once on that map ive just been randomly walking across the open and been nade launchered from the other side of the hedge... obviously purely luck from the kill cam but it still made me sad

 

[mrdude2010]

one time on Halo 3 we were playing citadel two people on our team left so it was me and my sister against the 4 guys on their team... we were absolutely dominating by about 20 points, and after i killed one of them i heard an 8 year olds voice scream out HAXXORRR!!! over the xbl mike.... made my day

 

[Draithx]

Yes, it has happened to me before. Used to happen quite a lot when I actively played Wolfenstein ET, but I just see it as a compliment really.

 

[technoted]

In Warcraft 3 I get accused of using hacks for the majority of the games I play, and Gears of War I usually hear "Crab Walking", "Shotgun Glitch" "Lag Switch" Etc. But the amount of time I've spent on both those games I'm bound to get very good at some point.

 

[NoseDigger]

Yea. I have been banned from servers for having a suspicious kdr. I can understand though, considering one was 64 kills, 0 deaths in BF2142. What can I say, an extremely unfortunate team and me in a walker.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Not really. The only two games that I was really quite good at were Tribes and Mechwarrior 4. My feats of skill in Tribes were nothing extraordinary - the game design itself ensured that a player could readily dominate given the appropriate circumstances. As a scout in the Renegades mod, I could readily control the entire middle area in Scarabrae by myself and would rack up dozens of kills precisely because my play style was suited to doing precisely that. In another game I achieved 54 kills with zero deaths simply by playing as an engineer (oddly enough, a better sniper than the "sniper" class), sitting near the enemy base in Rollercoaster and sniping away. Thanks to the simple fact that our team was absolutely wrecking the enemy, this meant I did not have to contend with counter snipers, and anyone who came to contest my control of the area was naturally outgunned and in an armor class most were unfamiliar with.

In Mechwarrior 4, one's success or failure in a battle was largely determined before the match even launched. Proper configuration of a mech and selection of chassis was at least half of what it took to win. In a game that ponderous, people rarely missed - so much so that simply forcing an enemy to not hit your center torso was generally considered to be the best you could accomplish. In most matches that took place in a city for example, I noted after long, bitter experience that players tended to use nothing more than large numbers of heavy autocannon, the slowest of mechs and the heaviest of armor. The trouble was, this generally resulted in a brutal slugging match were all but the best players would simply achieve a 1:1 kill/death ratio. I used a somewhat lighter, more mobile and less heavily armed mech and would regularly annihilate others. The difference in armor quantities meant little - I could still survive the same number of hits (which was 3, if all placed in the front center torso) but the difference in mobility was what was truly telling. I could readily ensure that it took the enemy several precious seconds before they could get their own weapons into range. Meanwhile, my choice of a lighter weapon package meant that I only commanded 60% of the firepower but I could deliver every ounce of that before the enemy could do more than scratch at paint on my own mech.

In the rest of the games, I tend to do better than most but never well enough to be accused of cheating. Except that one time and CS 1.6 when I accidentally got three head shot kills in rapid succession with a MAC-10. It was the result of nothing more than luck - I turned around just as they turned the corner and I panic fired, catching each of them in the head. So extraordinary was this feat of luck that the most plausible explanation (considering I had only just joined the server) was that I was cheating. I was promptly kicked and then banned as a result.

 

[Slayer_2]

If there is auto-aim, what's the point of cheating? I've never played the game in question, but auto-aim in multiplayer is a terrible idea, in my opinion.

I've been accused of cheating when I tried playing Gears of War online, then I killed the whole team by myself with a Lancer. Previous to me kicking their virtual asses, they had been shit-talking me and ranting about "goddamn noobs". After a few complaints about hacking, they proceeded to call me a noob for using the lancer, when all of them were shotgun noobs. People online usually can't take losing, and they are generally assholes, hence the whining.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

I used to, on Quake 1. Back when most people were still on 56k or less, I played from Uni which had a leased line. Good player + 25ms ping = lots of accusations. I wasn't great or anything but I knew the game well enough to make some freaky predictions by player patterns and level sounds that meant it looked like I had an aimbot or wallhack or something.

Also... juggling made people angry. :/

It made ME anrgy. I played on a 28.8k connection and would get, at best, a 250ms ping - enough that a mid-air rocketing was all but impossible. I still remember cursing the LPBs because of the tremendous advantage they enjoyed. It wasn't until years later that the city I lived in even had high speed internet as an option.

 

[Hawk of Battle]

Well, I've never been accused of it, least not that I can remember, but I did have an interesting match today on War for Cyberton; In team deathmatch on Molten, the lagg was really severe and I was playing scout, which is already insanely easy to get massive killstreaks with. The lagg was so bad that for some reason, every time my cloak timed out, it was immediately cooled down and ready to use again, meaning I could remain invisible for nearly the entire match, and when I wasn't invisible, then I'd be getting damage boosts from having just come out of cloak.

The game was played to 40 kills, and in a really good match on this game a single player might get around 15 kills, with 0-2 deaths (least that's what I'd call a good game). Match ended with me on 26 kills, 2 deaths. Of the 3 other people on my team, 1 had no kills or deaths, another had 9 kills, and the last had the remaining 5. Nobody on the opposing team had even got to double figures in kills, and overall had only about 20 kills.

It was probably down to the lagg being so bad, but it sure fely like cheating! I however, am not ashamed of the utter arse kicking I handed out that game

 

[FinalHeart95]

I've been accused of cheating even when I play like crap. I used to play Combat Arms (I could stop there and some people would already understand, but I won't), and I was okay. In one game I was awful and going like 2 and 10 or something like that. So I get a headshot on someone going to the incredible k/d of 3/10, and the guy accused me of aimbotting. When I was going 3/10.

Yeah, needless to say, I quit Combat Arms soon after.