Skyrim=Boring?
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you need to bring something to a game like skyrim to make it work for you.
like morrowind and oblivion before it if you don't get immersed in games like that and fill some blanks the game leaves, add you own quests (becoming powerfull with some guild or faction, owning property, decorating your house with artifacts, collecting every apple in the game) the things generally don't mean match what the game is concerned. They don't offer much reward aside from the initial one or none at all.
but once I was grandmaster of house redoran and the fightersguild I was strutting round Ald'ruhn like I owned the place in my pimped out artifact gear, imagining everyone looking up to me.
I blinged out my stronghold in Ald sota with all the rare books and items I could find, as well as stocking my armory with armors I didn't technically need.
If you don't bring your own game to the world of the elder scrolls, and expect the game to hold your hand, you will get bored easy. Because it's open character creation and freedom to do the quest in whatever order, don't allow for much interesting story telling. And the Combat tends to be pretty grindy.
you are responsible for the epic in the epic journey, skyrim just plots a path. If thats not your cup of tea there is plenty of other games you can probably get much more enjoyment out of (no elitism intended what so ever)
like morrowind and oblivion before it if you don't get immersed in games like that and fill some blanks the game leaves, add you own quests (becoming powerfull with some guild or faction, owning property, decorating your house with artifacts, collecting every apple in the game) the things generally don't mean match what the game is concerned. They don't offer much reward aside from the initial one or none at all.
but once I was grandmaster of house redoran and the fightersguild I was strutting round Ald'ruhn like I owned the place in my pimped out artifact gear, imagining everyone looking up to me.
I blinged out my stronghold in Ald sota with all the rare books and items I could find, as well as stocking my armory with armors I didn't technically need.
If you don't bring your own game to the world of the elder scrolls, and expect the game to hold your hand, you will get bored easy. Because it's open character creation and freedom to do the quest in whatever order, don't allow for much interesting story telling. And the Combat tends to be pretty grindy.
you are responsible for the epic in the epic journey, skyrim just plots a path. If thats not your cup of tea there is plenty of other games you can probably get much more enjoyment out of (no elitism intended what so ever)
Have a read [http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=14422]. There's inconsistencies and "but thou must [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButThouMust]" plot railroading that put the ending of Mass Effect 3 to shame.SajuukKhar said:
It's a lot of little things which I noticed, but never really bothered connecting into one clusterloving whole.
I realize that Oblivion has a really extensive modding community. I realized that Skyrim would probably have the same. I am sad to say that my computer is junk and I'm not able to replace it any time soon. Also, my brother picked up Skyrim himself. I was putting it off until I could cut down my RPG backlog that he built up and is still adding to.PrinceOfShapeir said:
Edit: And I hope you were talking about the mods. I didn't have any expectations for my mage, I think. I just take mage whenever I can, for better or worse.
Edit 2: On topic. I think OP is partially going through the same thing I had for Oblivion. After so many hours in, I kinda got tired of it all. Part of the reason might have been the damn empty level ups where the enemy would quickly become stronger than me if I didn't level perfectly. They definitely became stronger than any NPC's I had to protect. Everything just felt hollow after a while and you just wander aimlessly helping the next person on your quest list.
In a series were the entire universe is the dream of a schizophrenic god-head, and were all other guilds plot-lines throughout the games have been equally contrived and full of plot-holes, he picks THIS ONE to rag on.Kermi said:
I mean I could seriously point out how Morrowind mages guilds entire plot was "find out the mystery of the dwemer" and at the end you dont, and they still make you guild master for not.
Then I will make my way through those games. The story at least. Im not a big ES fan, but if a game suddenly says that spears no longer exist, thats either crappy and illogical writing or insanely brilliant writing.SajuukKhar said:
Ah,I can relate to this.Skyrim's shallowness shows itself after some time of playing.It grabbed me the first dozens of hours but after I got the best loots and most of my faction quests done it's just plain boring.Oh look,a dungeon to clean out with nothing of interest in it.
Hmmm,perhaps analyzing and dissecting it might be a more interesting task.
Hmmm,perhaps analyzing and dissecting it might be a more interesting task.
I suppose I can understand your concern, but the fact of the matter is, the game's modularity allows for far more entertainment than I've had with many other games of late, allowing for a more personalized gaming experience. And we haven't even come to the first expansion yet.
When I finally got around to beating the game, without the use of many mods, I still had myself a blast. Then I downloaded some mods, started over again with new perks and spells available, and am now having the time of my life. Smarter, STRONGER dragons that shoot you with lightning? More spells? Enhanced combat mechanics? Even more meaningful and unique perks? Yes, please.
This unfortunately will not do console players any good, and I still had a heck of a good time with the base game, but games are a pretty subjective matter, so if you don't like something, no biggie.
But I will not be able to forgive Bethesda completely until they put spears back into the Elder Scrolls.
Edit: And many people are making a concerted effort to add even more dungeons, locations and quests to the world, and many of them have been rather fun, and I expect even better as the years go by.
When I finally got around to beating the game, without the use of many mods, I still had myself a blast. Then I downloaded some mods, started over again with new perks and spells available, and am now having the time of my life. Smarter, STRONGER dragons that shoot you with lightning? More spells? Enhanced combat mechanics? Even more meaningful and unique perks? Yes, please.
This unfortunately will not do console players any good, and I still had a heck of a good time with the base game, but games are a pretty subjective matter, so if you don't like something, no biggie.
But I will not be able to forgive Bethesda completely until they put spears back into the Elder Scrolls.
Edit: And many people are making a concerted effort to add even more dungeons, locations and quests to the world, and many of them have been rather fun, and I expect even better as the years go by.
Vivec, one of the god-kings in Morrowind, is a magical hermaphrodite that exists in multiple parallel universes at the same time, and wrote a magical bible detailing his life, even the parts were he had sex with his sister, who is also his mother, and himself, and how he used his "johnson" as a spear to kill demons, and he wrote all of this being it was apparently important in finding out the secret of CHIM, a state of being above god-hood were one realizes he is a fictional character in a video game yet still has the audacity to claim he exists.Mr Pantomime said:
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Ohh yeah you know how time pauses when you open up the menu? Apparently opening the menu and the universe pausing is something that actually happens in lore.
Loading up save games is also part of the lore.
The construction kit? also lore, it is CHIM.
Talos? he is Really Lorkhan
Lorkhan? he is also Akatosh
Sithis? is Lorkhan's father in the same way god is jesus's father, i.e. they are the same person
Talos, Sithis, Lorkhan, and Akatosh are all the same person.
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/michael-kirkbrides-textsMr Pantomime said:
There's a list of almost all the works by Michael Kirkbride. He left Bethesda over a decade ago and yet they still contractually hire him to write lore for their series.
I will warn you MK writes in a style that can only be described as madness, his works can be nearly incompressible, and at other times be so seemingly clear you end up missing the real point.
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride
Here is some snippests of posts he has made on the forums detailing other thing.
Did you know the divine crusader who you meet in the knights of the nine DLC was a time traveler?
Did you know the Redguard SPLIT ATOMS with swords?
I'm just hoping Bethesda have done anything about the linear dungeons and crap quest by the time Fallout 4 rolls around. I enjoyed Skyrim for a time but for me Fallout 3 and New Vegas are much more my cup of tea, and I can't wait to see a wasteland in the new engine.
Uhh Obsidian is doing wasteland not Bethesda, and Obsidian doesn't have the rights to use Bethesda's creation engine.SomeBritishDude said:
Also Obsidian made New Vegas, not Bethesda.
Why can seemingly no one understand that Bethesda =/= Obsidian?
I was bored of Skyrim after the first few hours. Beat it in two days. The only thing I can remember from the game is the color "generic dragon grey".
Skyrim just isn't very well made. They just through all their ideas into a pile and left it at that. Most of the dungeons are the same. The quests aren't worth doing. Exploration gets you nowhere. The npcs are like robots; they seemingly have no interest in what they're saying. The combat is awful. I could go on, but you get the point.
I looked forward to exploring in Skyrim, but I just found the same stuff copy and pasted all over the map. Some different environments would've been nice, other than just snowy mountains and forests.
I looked forward to exploring in Skyrim, but I just found the same stuff copy and pasted all over the map. Some different environments would've been nice, other than just snowy mountains and forests.