Skyrim: What turned out to be bullshit?

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Matt Dellar

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I love Skyrim, but there's one giant thing I hate so much that I'm considering dishing out another $60 for the PC version so that I can fix it with mods:

LEVEL SCALING.

Okay, so it lets you get higher level equipment from random enemies. It lets you complete nearly any dungeon regardless of your level. Fine. But I completed all the mage college quests and became a total badarse with magic. I learned adept level magic, got all the highest level stuff available at the college (at my current level), walked out of the city, and got killed by the same saber-tooth cat I discovered Winterhold (I think that's what it was called) while running away from. When I level up, I want to be able to defeat the enemies that gave me trouble before. I'm not feeling any sense of progression here.

Also, I'm playing through while taking turns with my brother. He's playing a warrior and has no trouble owning everything in his path. I'm not specializing in anything, switching between magic and archery depending on the situation. It may just be that I'm spreading myself too thin and that I'd have a lot less trouble if I wasn't trying to fight level 20 enemies when I got to level 20 primarily because I did a lot of smithing and trading.

I can't remember the name of the city, but it was attacked by two dragons. After fast traveling to avoid that saber-tooth cat, I figured I'd kill some dragons and learn some more shouts. I fired my new spells at the dragons--and somehow got a 40 septim bounty for . . . Whiterun? Really? Was one of the Whiterun guards riding the dragon? I fired at it when it was sitting on top of a building. I can understand that the explosion might have damaged someone standing below, but Whiterun was on the other side of the map. That's not all. After eventually running away from the dragons that everyone else seems to be killing with no problem, I fast traveled back to Whiterun, intending to pay my fine and clear my name. Every single guard attacked me. I tried pulling out and re-sheathing my hands (both holding restoration spells), but I just kept getting attacked. What kind of guards go and attack an unarmed civilian with a bounty of only 40 septims?

One last, little nit-picky thing: a dragon attacked the college, which I thought was pretty cool. It was during a quest where it seemed like a dragon appearing would have been part of the quest. But nope. It was unscripted. That was even cooler. But the bad thing about it was that after we killed the dragon, everybody just walked on by like nothing had happened. No "Dragonborn!" comments. No pondering why a dragon would be here. Not even any mention of a dragon. It seemed like a pretty big deal to me. On that same subject, why do civilians just stand there when a dragon attacks? They don't run or fight. They just stand there, not even watching the dragon. They're watching YOU.

And yet, I want to go back and play even more. Skyrim's awesomeness definitely outweighs its flaws--although after typing all that and making myself realize just how much was wrong with it, I'm starting to get sorta annoyed that such obvious things weren't worked out. The level scaling thing, I can understand, but I should never get a bounty on my head for fighting a dragon twenty miles away.
 

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Hyper-space said:
DasDestroyer said:
...but it's not fun when I can fireball it a couple of times, use healing while it breathes fire and not take any damage, then fireball it a few more times and it's dead.
Don't complain about the game being easy if you are clearly playing the game on very easy (easy at best). I know for a fact that standing there idly by while a dragon is spewing fire on you will kill you with or without healing spells (my character has shit-loads of health, best heavy armor I can get, lots of fire resistance and I can barely survive one round of fire)
Nope. I am actually playing on Expert. Admittedly it's not Master, but it isn't Easy either.
 

Neverhoodian

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Oh, I know! The voice acting of the Jarl's mage in Whiterun, I mean that was just awful, really. Even I could voice-act better than him, in fact a dying rat with chronic laryngitis would still be able to portray more emotion than that guy. It's especially annoying considering that the rest of the voices seem to be such an improvement from the last game (either that or the accents disguise how bad they are).
Seconded. His performance is one of the worst instances of voice acting that I've ever heard. He's just mechanically reading from the script while putting no effort into making his character sound authentic or believable. Next time I see him I'm going to run a dagger through his throat (the character that is, not the actual voice actor).

It also seems that Bethesda is continuing their proud tradition of bugs and glitches, some of which are game-breaking. I've had multiple instances of disappearing water surfaces, and one time the game crashed on a loading screen (and this is the Xbox 360 version!).

I'm still having a blast, though.
 

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Dragon fights can be really awesome and epic at times, but some times (Depending on where you fight them) they can be really tedious and frustrating. Especially with their annoying "You're Past a Certain Percent of HP So I Can One Hit Kill You Attack".

I should probably come up with a shorter name for that.
 

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AlternatePFG said:
Dragon fights can be really awesome and epic at times, but some times (Depending on where you fight them) they can be really tedious and frustrating. Especially with their annoying "You're Past a Certain Percent of HP So I Can One Hit Kill You Attack".

I should probably come up with a shorter name for that.
Yeah that annoyed me too, so I just started one-shotting them with x30 sneak attacks. Pay-back's a *****!
 

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I haven't played the game much, but few things I find odd.

1) Unarmed skill/perks? There isn't any. Yet there is khajiit racial to increase unarmed damage, and a spell and heavy armor perk fists of iron or something. But there isn't direct unarmed skill nor perks. I find this odd since I'd like to play a stealthy monk fellow but I have a feeling that unarmed multipliers don't work as well as daggers do.

2) Backstabbing... I have maxed out one handed weapons, 5/5 perks to have them deal 100% more damage and assassin's blade perk to deal 15 times the dagger damage when sneak attacking. Then I equip my ebony dagger and sneak up to some equal-to-mine level mob, WHAM! The enemy is left around 75% health left and I'm gaping stupified at my enchanted dagger. Seriously. What?

Then the pros:

1) Dual wielding both spells and one handers is epic! I remember thinking about this since Daggerfall. Now it finally made it into the game. Party!

2) Dragons, no matter how underpowered, just look amazing.

3) Lusty Argonian Maid part II

^ This = win.

EDIT: typo
 

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Also, giants being the baddest asses of badassdom over dragons.
This is true. I've slain four dragons already, two of them without any companion to help me. But giants? Killed one for a quest, and only managed that by running away and shooting poisoned arrows at him. Five giants have killed me, though.
 

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lotr rocks 0 said:
linkmastr001 said:
So far, the main issue I've had playing it is that there is no breath meter. Otherwise, I wish there was a way to re-speck your specializations.

Question: Am I the only one who had a dragon attack a city that I just fast traveled to? Once I went to Whiterun I believe and a dragon cam and attacked, landing on the on of the Blacksmith's house (the girl's), so several of the guards, and a few of the citizens, and me fought the dragon. Eventually, we killed it, but then the guards killed me since someone walked into my flame spell... It was still awesome regardless. Anyone figure out how to stop a fight with the guards?

I want more so badly, too bad I was only playing my brother's copy and am waiting until christmas before getting this game.

EDIT: Corrected the city name
If you sheath your weapon there's a chance the guards will stop attacking you, but they will still arrest you and charge you with a bounty.
I'll have to try that next time. Maybe I could use my thane powers to ignore the bounty. I'd rather pay the bounty and keep my dragon soul then die regardless :p
 

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I caught the Butcher completely by chance.
I was wandering through the city when I saw Calixto wandering around. When I tried to talk to him it said 'this person is busy'. So I followed him to the marketplace where he pulled out a dagger behind a girl, so I fried him with my force lightning. Day saved!
 

omega 616

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I watched my friend play it for a while, and I have to say that the AI is pretty much bullshit. I watched him shoot 3 arrows at a guy and miss, and that guy just stares at the wall where the arrows hit, while the other guard just stood oblivious to this. Once dead, the other guard just sort of mumbled, and then he was dead. Then a third guard came in and said something about hearing things and left, while the two dead guards were mere feet away from him.
This has been the case with every game I can remember and probably about every game that I haven't played.

People/NPC's don't miss people/NPC's, unless you play a metal gear-esk game and they see a body. If Bob and John walk past each other on there route at the exact time, ever since they were taken on by the big evil corporation, then one day Bob doesn't walk past John ... John isn't going to say "shucks ... where is Bob at?" or "wow, those arrows sticking out the wall can't be a good thing!".

I think people expect too much from the bethesda guys, even with all it's problems, still a great game ... far better than a lot of stuff being churned out these days.

But since I want to be on topic at least a little ... What the fudge is up with the mouse being almost useless in me and you's (menu's)? I know, I know "consolification" but holy hell in a hand basket, they could have at least played the game on a PC before releasing it ...
 

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Timberwolf0924 said:
there's a dog some where out there I told to stop following me, you can talk to him and he sounds like he'd be from New Jersey or New York, he is totally out of place in the game, almost like a contest winner went with what he though would be the best to do. I'll find him soon and list him.
You realize that is a quest right?
 

The Diabolical Biz

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Matt Dellar said:
I love Skyrim, but there's one giant thing I hate so much that I'm considering dishing out another $60 for the PC version so that I can fix it with mods:

LEVEL SCALING.

Okay, so it lets you get higher level equipment from random enemies. It lets you complete nearly any dungeon regardless of your level. Fine. But I completed all the mage college quests and became a total badarse with magic. I learned adept level magic, got all the highest level stuff available at the college (at my current level), walked out of the city, and got killed by the same saber-tooth cat I discovered Winterhold (I think that's what it was called) while running away from. When I level up, I want to be able to defeat the enemies that gave me trouble before. I'm not feeling any sense of progression here.

Also, I'm playing through while taking turns with my brother. He's playing a warrior and has no trouble owning everything in his path. I'm not specializing in anything, switching between magic and archery depending on the situation. It may just be that I'm spreading myself too thin and that I'd have a lot less trouble if I wasn't trying to fight level 20 enemies when I got to level 20 primarily because I did a lot of smithing and trading.
Shit dude...are we the same person? I'm a wizard, I got fucked up by the same cat, MY BROTHER IS PLAYING A FUCKING WARRIOR?!

Eh...

And no major problems as of yet, it crashed once on a loading screen (quick restart) but that's about it. Apart from my horse's magical hovering powers that is.
 

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linkmastr001 said:
lotr rocks 0 said:
linkmastr001 said:
So far, the main issue I've had playing it is that there is no breath meter. Otherwise, I wish there was a way to re-speck your specializations.

Question: Am I the only one who had a dragon attack a city that I just fast traveled to? Once I went to Whiterun I believe and a dragon cam and attacked, landing on the on of the Blacksmith's house (the girl's), so several of the guards, and a few of the citizens, and me fought the dragon. Eventually, we killed it, but then the guards killed me since someone walked into my flame spell... It was still awesome regardless. Anyone figure out how to stop a fight with the guards?

I want more so badly, too bad I was only playing my brother's copy and am waiting until christmas before getting this game.

EDIT: Corrected the city name
If you sheath your weapon there's a chance the guards will stop attacking you, but they will still arrest you and charge you with a bounty.
I'll have to try that next time. Maybe I could use my thane powers to ignore the bounty. I'd rather pay the bounty and keep my dragon soul then die regardless :p
the thane powers can forgive you for some crimes, depending on the severity, you'll have to try that.
 

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3. Really crappy prices from Merchants, this effects people in more than one way, for one you get very little for the best stuff you loot from the dungeons or so poor fool who was going home to see his family, in turn the items from the merchants are jacked up to holy hell, if you're only getting about 100 septims for a 600 septim amulet why would you want to spend 15 days saving up 5 grand for a house in Whiterun?
Conversely: once you find a recipe or two making expensive potions from common ingredients, the merchants might as well just give you their money and save you the time. I stumbled across a recipe for Poison of Damage Magicka Regen and bought a recipe for Potion of Invisibility, add in the Merchant perk, and my 25k septim house in Solitude came much faster than my 5k one in Whiterun.

ED: I should say that Skyrim is one of my favorite games in quite a while...nothing's perfect, though, and it's fun to nitpick.