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Mukiwa

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Khell you've summed it up perfectly. Pretty much verbatim to what I was thinking.
 

meatloaf231

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Shivari post=18.70793.703625 said:
I smack little kids every day after they come out of the sweat shop/torture room so that they can eat their infected dinner. They then go back down and work throughout the night while occasionally getting whipped.
That's nothing. I don't even give them the dinner. I make them eat the infected mold raw.
 

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meatloaf231 post=18.70793.703836 said:
Shivari post=18.70793.703625 said:
I smack little kids every day after they come out of the sweat shop/torture room so that they can eat their infected dinner. They then go back down and work throughout the night while occasionally getting whipped.
That's nothing. I don't even give them the dinner. I make them eat the infected mold raw.
I give them excessive paper cuts every morning and then pour salt on them to wake them up. I also installed moving walls that can close in with the press of the button to instill fear along with the spikes in the ceiling that slowly move down.
 

meatloaf231

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Shivari post=18.70793.703867 said:
meatloaf231 post=18.70793.703836 said:
Shivari post=18.70793.703625 said:
I smack little kids every day after they come out of the sweat shop/torture room so that they can eat their infected dinner. They then go back down and work throughout the night while occasionally getting whipped.
That's nothing. I don't even give them the dinner. I make them eat the infected mold raw.
I give them excessive paper cuts every morning and then pour salt on them to wake them up. I also installed moving walls that can close in with the press of the button to instill fear along with the spikes in the ceiling that slowly move down.
Ok this is becoming very creepy. It's like a who's-more-sadistic contest.

Salt in the morning? I make them sleep in sacks of salt and lemon juice after the paper cuts. I also have auto-whips set up to whip them every time they talk to each other. They wear auto-whip harnesses at all times.
 

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meatloaf231 post=18.70793.703879 said:
Shivari post=18.70793.703867 said:
meatloaf231 post=18.70793.703836 said:
Shivari post=18.70793.703625 said:
I smack little kids every day after they come out of the sweat shop/torture room so that they can eat their infected dinner. They then go back down and work throughout the night while occasionally getting whipped.
That's nothing. I don't even give them the dinner. I make them eat the infected mold raw.
I give them excessive paper cuts every morning and then pour salt on them to wake them up. I also installed moving walls that can close in with the press of the button to instill fear along with the spikes in the ceiling that slowly move down.
Ok this is becoming very creepy. It's like a who's-more-sadistic contest.

Salt in the morning? I make them sleep in sacks of salt and lemon juice after the paper cuts. I also have auto-whips set up to whip them every time they talk to each other. They wear auto-whip harnesses at all times.
The scariest thing just happened. I reached for the phone to call child services, but right before I pressed talk, it rang. I answered it, and a voice said "Don't.". I now fear for my life.
 

crepesack

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hittin children is good teach em a lesson i volunteer alot with young children for my church and now a days kids have absolutely no discipline it's ridiculous
 

Shivari

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meatloaf231 post=18.70793.703879 said:
Shivari post=18.70793.703867 said:
meatloaf231 post=18.70793.703836 said:
Shivari post=18.70793.703625 said:
I smack little kids every day after they come out of the sweat shop/torture room so that they can eat their infected dinner. They then go back down and work throughout the night while occasionally getting whipped.
That's nothing. I don't even give them the dinner. I make them eat the infected mold raw.
I give them excessive paper cuts every morning and then pour salt on them to wake them up. I also installed moving walls that can close in with the press of the button to instill fear along with the spikes in the ceiling that slowly move down.
Ok this is becoming very creepy. It's like a who's-more-sadistic contest.

Salt in the morning? I make them sleep in sacks of salt and lemon juice after the paper cuts. I also have auto-whips set up to whip them every time they talk to each other. They wear auto-whip harnesses at all times.
I have sharp fans rotating at low areas so that if they try to move around they'll be cut quite nicely. You should see it when I cut off one of their legs, throw it to the others and tell them to kill that kid with the leg. Also I obtain samples of horrible diseases, mix them together and put it into their food. Hilarity ensues.

Aries_Split post=18.70793.703887 said:
The scariest thing just happened. I reached for the phone to call child services, but right before I pressed talk, it rang. I answered it, and a voice said "Don't.". I now fear for my life.
If you try it again the consequences will be severe.
 

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Cheeze_Pavilion post=18.70793.703853 said:
Khell_Sennet post=18.70793.703768 said:
But if you instill respect and fear into your child properly
No one can instill respect and fear--they are mutually exclusive. Fear is simply a desire to not get caught breaking a rule. Respect is the desire to live up to a rule. In short, respect comes from recognizing the value of a rule, while fear is finding no value in a rule but only in the consequence of being caught breaking it.
I think you're looking just a little too shortly on the matter. The ultimate goal in discipline is to establish a "desire to live up to a rule," (respect) but that behavior has to be taught. Even though fear and respect don't go together, fear CAN lead to respect if used properly. By playing off a child's desire to avoid punishment, you can (hopefully) open up the child's eyes to the rest of the world, and explain to the child the true merit of the rules.

My point is, respect doesn't just jump out from nowhere. It needs a solid foundation, something humanly familiar to build upon, and fear is easily accessible. As are guilt, humiliation, shame, etc.
 

meatloaf231

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Shivari post=18.70793.703900 said:
meatloaf231 post=18.70793.703879 said:
Shivari post=18.70793.703867 said:
meatloaf231 post=18.70793.703836 said:
Shivari post=18.70793.703625 said:
I smack little kids every day after they come out of the sweat shop/torture room so that they can eat their infected dinner. They then go back down and work throughout the night while occasionally getting whipped.
That's nothing. I don't even give them the dinner. I make them eat the infected mold raw.
I give them excessive paper cuts every morning and then pour salt on them to wake them up. I also installed moving walls that can close in with the press of the button to instill fear along with the spikes in the ceiling that slowly move down.
Ok this is becoming very creepy. It's like a who's-more-sadistic contest.

Salt in the morning? I make them sleep in sacks of salt and lemon juice after the paper cuts. I also have auto-whips set up to whip them every time they talk to each other. They wear auto-whip harnesses at all times.
I have sharp fans rotating at low areas so that if they try to move around they'll be cut quite nicely. You should see it when I cut off one of their legs, throw it to the others and tell them to kill that kid with the leg. Also I obtain samples of horrible diseases, mix them together and put it into their food. Hilarity ensues.
Horrible diseases, eh? I keep rabid bears in the same place my children sleep in their salt sacks. Every night, after the shipment of children stuffed in boxes filled with scorpions, I count them. If there are fifty children, I put out forty-eight sacks of salt. See, the salt hides their scent from the bears. In the salt room I place various jagged, pointed objects and turn out the lights. There is a timer set to release the bears after one minute.

The bears never need feeding.
 

Lazzi

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There is a fine line of the subject.

While im all for smackign an 8 year old on the back of the head (lightly please! we only want them surpirsed not hurt)for doing some thing increbly stupid but not dangerus.

I do how ever have issue with having the physical being the punishment in and of it self.
 

Reaperman Wompa

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I think a small smack at the appropriate moment can work, though if you always do it then that's wrong. For instance you have to teach your child to react to you saying stop, if they don't you warn them, if they continue a smack on the hand or bottom tells them that they cannot do that in future, if they even start you say keep doing that and i will smack you. My parents did this and it worked quite well. Though i want to hear what most people here consider a "smack", i consider it the same thing as a slap on the hand, while some people here define it as abuse.
 

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Reaperman Wompa post=18.70793.704071 said:
I think a small smack at the appropriate moment can work, though if you always do it then that's wrong. For instance you have to teach your child to react to you saying stop, if they don't you warn them, if they continue a smack on the hand or bottom tells them that they cannot do that in future, if they even start you say keep doing that and i will smack you. My parents did this and it worked quite well. Though i want to hear what most people here consider a "smack", i consider it the same thing as a slap on the hand, while some people here define it as abuse.
Well, full force open palm in the case of my parents. My younger brothers and sisters...ehh, the wooden spoon, yeah... Although, before I moved out, I did notice a drop off in actual physical violence. Now they just shout at each other, a lot. I suppose this is both to do with that a: My brothers are now in their early teens, which...may give them some notion of retaliation, and I guess my parents realise that too. And b: They're also caught up somewhat with the notion that you just don't do that to children any more, as said moving along with the times.

I was kind of resentful however. When I was younger, after my mother and father had divorced, we moved about a bit, and then moved out and away from our home town. Then of course she meets my stepfather. He's wasn't an overly mean spirited person, but I didn't take it very well. I must have been 6 or 7 I guess. Anyway...of course I start bed-wetting, heh even shat myself once or twice, now key at this point, you may think oh, perfect time to console your child and find out what's wrong right? Nope. Got hit, choked (not seriously, but with force) and what culminated in myself being paraded in front of my mother in a diaper. Now...at 7 years old, this is a most horrifically humiliating thing to do to a child, or at least to my mind. But hey, it worked, don't recall ever soiling myself after that. Too busy thinking up ever more elaborate ways to murder, torture and maim my stepfather. Of course, I eventually came to the realisation that, enacting any such criminal acts would not only demean me, but would in essence allowing him to 'win'.

So, humiliation does work eh? ;D
 
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Darth Mobius post=362.70793.703778 said:
Khell tells it like it is, once again...
To a point...

There's a number of adults who take great pleasure in bullying kids, and there's a line that has to be trod.

Smacking the kid for everything will backfire badly when they reach puberty.

To those that don't agree with smacking, how would you 'inform' a 2 year old about not pulling that boiling kettle down?
 

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The_root_of_all_evil post=18.70793.704122 said:
Darth Mobius post=362.70793.703778 said:
Khell tells it like it is, once again...
To a point...

There's a number of adults who take great pleasure in bullying kids, and there's a line that has to be trod.

Smacking the kid for everything will backfire badly when they reach puberty.

To those that don't agree with smacking, how would you 'inform' a 2 year old about not pulling that boiling kettle down?
There is a big difference between disciplining a child, and bullying/ beating them. Physical discipline must be consistent if you're going to use it at all. I was beaten, and it leaves a horrible, quite lasting impression on you. I'm reluctant to use physical discipline on any of my future children for that reason. There are ways to discipline children without resorting to smacking- Jo "Supernanny" Frost has demonstrated this quite admirably.
I don't think you need to smack a child to stop them pulling a boiling kettle down, you'd be suprised what a firm tone can do. But really, you shouldn't leave a hazard like that within the reach of children anyway.