Smacking Children - As a Parents of Course

[Chiasm]

I think spanking a child is never ever a bad thing ever when the parent is a reasonable parent. This is coming from someone who was often in a children shelter as a kid and who as a adult now works at a shelter when I can and plan on making that into a career.

However, I believe spanking and smacking on the arm or leg should always be done with love and on a clear mind not when in anger. I find parents who do the "hurt me more then you" and on a clear mind know when to stop and just a strong pat. When if the parent is still angry then there is no clear point where to stop and often goes far behind a strong pat and into bruising.

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I think you are taking things to their extreme, and out of context. Fear, for one, is not an off/on thing, there is a varied range of fear, for various reasons. A child should fear that if they do something bad, their parents will punish them

I agree with your post but also this main point for emphasis. And also this "fear" isn't always hitting like some think but I find many reasonable parents find this "fear" can also be for a teenager taking away a game system and TV.

 

[Chiasm]

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[Chiasm]

Whether there is a difference between bruising and razor scars depends on what we're talking about. If we're talking about how evil they are, then sure--big huge difference. However, in the same way the police getting a confession out of someone without reading them their Miranda rights first and getting that confession by beating them with a rubber hose on the soles of their feet are both violations of their Constitutional rights, I think that both smacking and razor assaults are violations of the human rights of children.

Well,First let me say its late and realized,"Bouncing off walls" was a expression and really misread that whole post it seemed because of it. Secondly I think smacking is more a gray area in the way I would only allow say a parent smacking a child's back of the arm or leg almost like taping on the hand to emphasize "No" However I think any smack above the neck or with force behind it should not be allowed.

As I said I think a parent that is reasonable and only does anything physical with love will know what is enough to get the point across,As anything physical is only a last step that should only rarely be used only as there is much better ways to go about things.I think issues come out with parents who smack or spank when they are still angry and ignore other issues that could be driving the behavior and also the amount of pain being inflicted.

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EDIT: Also I would say that spanking triggers a much different issue than just physical discipline. The backside is an erogenous zone and spanking can send all kinds of fucked up signals to the brain about sex and guilt, meaning a level of punishment that would not qualify as abuse if it were delivered to another part of the body would qualify as abuse if delivered to the backside because sexual abuse does not need to be particularly violent to qualify as abuse.

Well,I guess two points only would be I would like to see if there has been a case study over kids who only had spanking done and what it caused compared to kids who had nothing. And without reading up to see if there has been a major case study and research on it.You have to remember there children and light spankings have been part of history for such a long I would think then every adult would have either a fetish from it or some kind of guilt from it as it is not uncommon to be spanked as a child. Though if you read Freud(And believe in operant conditioning) then it seems children would only want to do negative actions to get the positive punishment if they felt that kind of pleasure from it. If I am understanding you right that is.

 

[sirdanrhodes]

SMACK THE LITTLE SH*TS, words don't work, I am 16 and I have to look after my younger cousins (2,4 and 8) and they are annoying as hell, and they don't do as their told. One of them (4 year old) owes me a new copy of CoD3 after DESPITE BEING TOLD not to move my 360 while it's running (how he saw it though, I have no idea, it was hidden), he still rocked it round.

 

[Ares Tyr]

I had my ass whipped on many an occasion and for the most part I deserved it. I did alot of stupid shit as a kid, I'm not going to lie. My parents never 'beat' me. They put a few hands, belts, and switches against my behind, but it never broke my skin, or did any damage to me. It hurt, it stung, and it taught me a lesson.

And while I don' plan on viciously beating my kids, if they do something that warrants getting a spanking on the behind, then I'll probably do so. I mean, I've seen shit perpetuated by young teens that looks like it requires them having their ass whipped. I dunno if any of you have seen that show "Baby Borrowers" but when that pre-teen kid (was he like 12 or 13) started throwing around the borrowers' clothes and shit, I was like "See, at that point as I parent, I would be whipping the piss out of that kid...".

I don't think its cruel to give your kid a light spanking. I mean seriously, if its on their behind, not breaking the skin or anything, and its just a "STOP DOING STUPID THINGS" kind of thing after a verbal warning, then I don't see the problem.

Now I definetly disagree with slapping your kid in the face or any other kind of beating. That's child abuse. And child abuse is wrong (amirite?).

Situation:

My kid wants me to give him desert before he eats his dinner and refuses to eat what is on his plate. I say "Eat what you can from your dinner plate and then you can have ice cream", and then the kid does something along the lines of tossing the plate on the floor, then that kids going to get a slap on the behind. I'm not abusing him, I'm teaching him not to be a rotten, spoiled little brat, and that's a lesson so many of today's youth need to learn.

I was taught that lesson, and I turned out to be a pretty alright, likeable guy amongst others, so I guess my parents didn't fuck me up too bad.

But again, anything beyond a light spanking is bordering on child abuse...

 

[The Wooster]

I'm loathe to agree with Khell because he talks like one of the conservative callers on that satirical radio chat show in Grand Theft Auto but I agree that in some cases light corporal punishment can, for some families, help with child discipline. It should generally be handled as a major event though. When I was young whenever I did something particularly stupid I would get hit with a slipper. Now this sounds shitty but that slipper had all the structural integrity of a a sheet of paper. It was like being beaten with a sock.
What kept me in line was not the physical pain or the shock of the violence but fear of the event as a whole. I don't think parents should just randomly apply physical force to get their point across as it kind of undermimes most principles parents try to instill in a child.

Oh and a kid should never be hit in the head. Ever.

 

[Ares Tyr]

Indeed. It's definetly more of a sudden shock over anything, and it should be. It should never be any kind of real pain other than maybe a bit of a sting. Leaving bruises and marks on your kid is unacceptable.

 

[The Wooster]

Indeed. It's definetly more of a sudden shock over anything, and it should be. It should never be any kind of real pain other than maybe a bit of a sting. Leaving bruises and marks on your kid is unacceptable.

No I meant the opposite. The sudden shock just scares the kid. If you crack him across the legs and he just freaks out more what are you going to do? Hit him harder? Instead my mum had instilled such a fear of 'the slipper' that the threat of it was all that was needed to shut me up.

 

[rayman 101]

I think smacking should be reserved as a last option, maybe like a slap (not hard one) if the kid is seriously disobedient, but 100% against beating a child. Spanking is one thing, but beating is another.