Smoking. I do it because I love it.
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Probably because you were smoking next to him in a public spot?YouCallMeNighthawk said:
People who smoke in places like that are either assholes, or ignorant as hell.
If you blew a nice big puff of smoke into his face after he told you to stop smoking in a public spot, That's completely out of line.
If you weren't in a smoking area, or a public spot. Well the guy is an idiot.
I have an idea. Free thought and the expression of thought is the most valuable content in which we have on the internet. When we use the internet we understand how strong its ability is to rely our point. Like the internet smoking is an individual expression for choice and prescriptive. If you value individual freedom you should allow smoking anywhere, just as you would allow free speak on the internet. There are so many organizations that want to take away the internet, as a forum of freedom of expression, form that we should focus our energy against.
i love smoking too - can't do it too much because it's hella expensive and i can go through a pack of 25's in a couple of hours. when i was in europe, i was smoking about a pack and a half a day, of full strength camels. i couldn't shower often, (backpacking) and i could wash my clothes even less. it was pretty gross.
cut down a lot since i've been back in australia, but still enjoy a cigarette now and then (or thirty.) the girlfriend hates it and steals them whenever she finds them in my room, and i can't blame her. i'll stop soon. i'm still too young to contemplate any real consequences (don't tell me about any, k.)
cut down a lot since i've been back in australia, but still enjoy a cigarette now and then (or thirty.) the girlfriend hates it and steals them whenever she finds them in my room, and i can't blame her. i'll stop soon. i'm still too young to contemplate any real consequences (don't tell me about any, k.)
Nahh he was wlaking by and said something, so i ofcourse retaliated with a cocky comment which he then stopped and started to lecture me about the dangers of smoking.Arcticflame said:
Also i had a conversation with my friends earlier and he made me realise, all these people bitching and moaning about how we are affecting their health when the tax from our tobacco purchases pay for the NHS, so essentially we are paying for your health service.
It's not that i don't like non-smokers just when they haven't smoked before and preach about things they don't know about just gets me all riled up!!!
Yeah. All those assholes trying to save your lives. They're just trying to make themselves feel better because they've seen friends or relatives die slow, painful, ugly deaths through cancer or other smoking related diseases. The selfish bastards. How dare they?
Unfortuantely, smokers are more likely to end up in hospital, or needing health care. Basically you're paying for yourself there.YouCallMeNighthawk said:
However, non-smokers do smoke, it's called passive smoke.
Besides, even ignoring that, you don't need to be a smoker to know the dangers of it, or whether it's something you would enjoy.
Why would I smoke when I know the scientific peer-reviewed evidence that shows it's bad for your health, as well as absolutely detesting the smell of it? It's kind of like telling me not to dismiss petrol sniffing without trying it.
I wouldn't ever lecture anyone about smoking. But if someone was smoking next to me I'd damn well tell them to stop. (With exceptions).
And those some are only the people have visually experienced, I can't speak for everyone else. But, Marijuana CAN be harmful in long term and excessive usage. The key word here is CAN, I have seen it happen and my fiancee use to be friends with some long term and excessive users. He's known them since high school, he's witnessed the effects that come with that sort of consumption over a long period of time. The question is not how addictive it can be or how many people it effects but how harmful it can be and that is what I am trying to get across.Zeconte said:
ya know..i used to smoke..now i only do every now and then. i smoke Camel Menthols and American Spirits. i stopped with the menthols after they added the crush bead, because the got rid of half the menthol flavor, and the menthol bead IN the menthols, just tastes like burnt plastic when you smoke them..it sucks, i used to love them. but i stopped because one day i didn't eat all day because i didn't have money and there was actually no food, then i smoked a single stoogie, and got violently sick. couldn't take 2 steps without almost vomiting, had to sit under a fan with the AC and an ice pack on me for an hour and a half, before i could even TRY to wlak over to get some food at my buddy's house ((where i was at)) it was also about a week from the pack's experation, so i had time to smoke them still. it sucked..that kinda drew me away from the sweet sweet stoogies.
but..i still smoke half to a full one every now and again. depends on who i'm with and what kind of a day it's been.
i actually started because i got dumped, ended up homeless a few months later, couldn't get a job, and was couch hopping, and the buddy i was staying with was getting evicted. so i started up.
that's pretty much all there is to it
but..i still smoke half to a full one every now and again. depends on who i'm with and what kind of a day it's been.
i actually started because i got dumped, ended up homeless a few months later, couldn't get a job, and was couch hopping, and the buddy i was staying with was getting evicted. so i started up.
that's pretty much all there is to it
That seems almost closed minded to me. I have smoked before, never got into but I know people like my dad who smoke on a regular basis. He is not addicted, but his body is. I know from experience he can give it up and thats what I think OP is saying about being addicted.case_orange said:
Giving it up has a lot to do with mental will power, but it's not going to work if you aren't giving it up for your own reasons. I was cold turkey for a few months, but found that I needed an occasional fix until I could give up completely. And if your body is addicted then you are addicted, there are no two ways about it unfortunately.mrF00bar said:
I don't cough loudly or any such thing, but i still get smoke blown in my face. Tobacco and weed. Ignoring the fact that, as anyone who isn't in extreme denial about being a dick to those around them knows, second hand smoke is actually more damaging than actually smoking, public smokers are just damned inconsiderate. I do not choose to smoke. When you spark up a cigarette at the bus stop, I have to sit there and breathe your smoke or leave and lose my place in the queue or even miss my bus if nobody else hails it. If it's raining then I have to go and get soaked if I want to get away. It's the same with people who smoke in shop or pub doorways. I should not have to walk through a cloud of your poison (if you think the term is too harsh then you're an idiot who has no idea what you're actually smoking) just to go about my day.Superbeast said:I punch people like you in the face. Hard.
Why should they spread their disgusting dirty germs on me when I'm stood out of the way, down wind, outside? I don't want to catch something and die? Please, fake-cough in private for the good of all our health
Seriously though, people like you piss me off. Have you ever wondered that this might be *why* people blow smoke in your face? Because you make such a fuss about it? Outside the smoke dissipates rapidly and is not harmful to your health - secondary smoke in confined locations might be, which is why most places have banned indoor smoking.
Basically, if you smoke at home with the windows closed or in completely deserted places outdoors then fine, that's ok. If you smoke near another living human being that isn't also smoking, then you're a selfish piece of crap. If you smoke in places where the smoke takes a while to disperse and where other people may have to walk through it during that time, then, yep, selfish piece of crap.
If I was a cocaine user and went around randomly jabbing my needle into other people, everyone would go nuts about it, smokers included. As it stands, forcing passive smoke upon others is the same thing. No, it's worse, it'd be like walking around injecting some kind of souped up uber-coke into people, due to the whole 'passive smoking is more dangerous' thing.
My rule (by the looks of it shared by many) is that if it does no harm to anyone else then there's no problem. This largely falls down to smoking outside if you live/work with others (and in such a way that you don't get in the way of others, e.g. don't stand in a doorway). Say if it's your room in your house, nobody else uses it, and the smoke and smell goes out the window instead of into the rest of the house, I wouldn't object.
True this. I smoked for about 3 years, and I never managed to quit for myself because I enjoyed it too much and I wasn't dying from it there and then (yeah, i know, technically I was probably dying a tiny bit). Then I got together with my girlfriend, who never asked my not to smoke until I asked her if she would prefer I give up. She said yes and I haven't touched cigarette, roll-up, nor pipe since(Yes, I did smoke a pipe. I was 21 and I smoked a pipeMelziGurl said:
). So yeah, if you have a reason it should be relatively easy to give up. I was never on a pack a day, but there's no doubt I was addicted, as I still get a bit of a craving when I see the packets of tobacco behind the counter in my local shop.
Virus0015 said:
Thank you. Finally someone who is not lecturing or saving lives.
I couldn't agree more. I don't smoke on my own. But when I'm with friends who smoke, I'll gladly take 1 with them, since because of the new anti-smoking law, you can no longer smoke in pubs 'n clubs. Outside is where the fun people are.
I smoke (almost) everything, depending on the situation.
I like a cigaret for obivous reasons: it's easy, fast, you can share 'em easier and they get the job done.
I like cigars because they give you the oportunity to unwind. You sit there, smoking, looking around, letting the buisy world flow you by.
I like pipe for the same reason as cigars.
I smoke weed with friends 4 lulz.
And, the "almost" thingy is this:
I HATE mentol cigarets. Like I'm smoking a piece of gum that has been stuck to the pavement for a month. yuck...
I don't really think much about it. I like smoking so I do it. Plus I figure anyone that would ***** and whine about it probably isn't worth the time of day to talk to. Just walk by, arguing back only encourages them.
Personally, I don't really care if people want to smoke in private, but I wish there were more places they could in public rather than just standing outside the entrance to a building. That is rather annoying to have to walk through the smoke.