Sniping is officially WORTHLESS in Black Ops

[Ukanef]

Shotguns are Snipers becoming so situational theres really no reason to run with something other than an Assault or an SMG. Thats not balancing, thats quite the opposite.
Quickscoping was way harder than landing a few shots with an SMG in close range and even at Mid an asssault rifleman worth his salt could put the hurt on you.
I play at the PC so there is no aim-assist to abuse. But 2-3 seconds of scoping is way way waaaaay to long.
Don't bring realism into this cause I ve been stabbed in the foot and died and I have survived a predator missile just by running behind a wrecked car.
I hope treyarch makes quickscoping viable or I m not buying the game.

 

[Iron Mal]

You're supposed to be shooting at long range, if someone gets close you rely on your secondary weapon. It's nonsense that you can kill in ONE bullet at long range and then ONE close range.

See with a shotgun you get to kill people close range but when someone spots you at long range you're at disadvantage.

That's how it works you pick long range you're good at long but suck at short. You can't have it all in one package

This pretty much sums up my opinion on the matter quite well, we've been quite happily abusing the power of sniper rifles for a long time now so I think it's good that finally we are seeing measures taken to reduce the effectiveness of said abuse (the only weapon class I can think of that are supposed to be 'all rounders' and effective at all ranges are assault rifles).

The nerfing/gimping of quick scoping may hit some players hard but it's a good step towards getting sniper rifles to be used the way they are supposed to be, does anyone here honestly think that the devs planned for people to quick-scope?

People bitched about models 87's in MW2 having a half decent range for a shotgun (and it got patched away to everyone's relief) but the second we try to balance sniper rifles it's suddenly unwarranted?

 

[CastIronWin]

quick scoping is a small tumorous lump that needed to be removed, i sniped a lot in MW2 and never quick scoped, the idea never came across my mind despite seeing others use it to great effect.

the whole problem with quick scoping is that it is just the aim assist taking over after someone has roughly centred on a target. the fact treyarch have gone as far as to break this mode of game play demonstrates they want people to play the sniper class as just that - someone being sneaky and picking those poor sods off who unwittingly wander into there scopes.

and before anyone asks, i am advocating camping in COD games, because with killcams and the like camping is a tricky proposition and a dedicated individual would swiftly de-ball a sniper that just got sprayed his brains across the map.

 

[BioHazardMan]

I think this is bullshit on Treyarch's part. Quick-scoping is a legit way to play, and is pretty realistic (hip fire with a rifle isn't as in accurate as you think). I personally don'y quick scope, but will support anybody with just about any play style.

 

[Exia91]

All I have to say about this subject is:

People who complain about Quickscoping being removed, are the ones who played this cheap stuff before. Go cry in a pillow or something.

OT:
Well that was my OT; go cry in a pillow.

PS: I don't even FPS, and I still enjoy your cries. *sadist*

 

[MrShowerHead]

Uuh, my friend won't like this at all....
Right now he's playing the campaign, but when we starts multiplayer...
Let's just say he had an interesting way to use his sniper rifle in MW2

Me, on the other hand..... HELL YEAH!!!

 

[HT_Black]

Ha-ha! See, people that aren't Valve do have brains! Team Fortress 2, Treyarch has vindicated you!

 

[qazcake]

quick scoping in a fast pace game is reasonalble because you dont have time to snipe. quick scopeing was a skill in cod 4. it the same its fast paced that you dont have much time to sit down for a few seconds and snipe. especial on certant maps like nuketown. it seems to make it so it requires big maps in order to use the sniper properly. since when has the equation been realisum is greater than fun?

 

[Nifty]

Just to correct the title of this thread, sniping hasn't been made worthless. 'Sploiting has

Quick scoping is an exploit, the game DEVELOPERS coming along and nerfing it only proves it. There can and NEVER will be a valid argument for exploiting and glitching. Go cry me a river.

 

[Duffeknol]

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sorry

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

Considering how many people use the term "noob" in this thread, I approve of Treyarch's decision, and I haven't even played the damn game. Anyone who complains about how "Teh N00bZ @re Ruinin mah gamez!" deserves a good smack.

 

[ecoho]

Ok im with you thats BS not so much with quick scopeing but if i sit for a few hours in a nice perch and i cant head shot effectivly im screwed. BTW to all of you who might say this is "realistic" its not, in real life no matter how long you have the scope up the bullet will go were you point your weapon (assumeing of corse your scope is properly mounted and allighned as any millitary scope would)

Go find a scoped rifle, and in the span of .2 seconds, bring the scope to your eye and make an accurate shot. Come back and tell me how accurate you think a shot you made after smashing the scope into your face should be.

with my tripod down i hit uper torso and that was less then a second in the actual scope and BTW if you hold the dam rifle right the scope wont hit your face

 

[[BDS]Omega]

Gotta go with the obvious on this one, making snipers behave the way they were always meant to is such a good thing. When a buddy of mine showed me quickscoping I thought it looked like the most retarded thing ever.

But for all you whiners try this: next time you are at the gun range (if you even go at all), try to bring a scoped weapon up to firing position from the hip and tell me how many times you can accurately aim at a target with under a half second of looking down the scope. Once you do that, then come back and complain about the loss of your precious quickscope.

 

[sheogoraththemad]

they are making SNIPERS LONG RANGE weapons those bastards

I know! how dare they!

 

[Sparcrypt]

Deal with it. Quickscoping has annoyed me since Counter Strike and I'm glad someone has finally brought out a game that deals with it. And this is nothing to do with not being able to do it - I can quick scope as well and if I have a sniper rifle I of course do so. But I prefer the correct tactic to be using your secondary weapon.

If I run around with a shotgun I can one shot kill people at close range. At a distance I'm screwed. Sniper rifles are supposed to be the other way round - this way they are.

Also gimp is a perfectly acceptable term. 'Nerfing' something implies it has just been made less powerful. What they have done is indeed gimped quick scoping - ie, basically removed that playstyle from the game.

EDIT: oh and due to this announcement, I just bought the game. Downloading now, see you online!

 

[Comrade_Beric]

I find whats funny is that quick scoping actually took skill in MW and MW2 to say it didn't is just delusional and your complaining cause you didn't take the time to learn it. Its not like every person got a sniper and if they quick scoped got a kill you had to have nerves to steel and quick reflexes and lots of practice to do it.

quick scoping took skill.

Skill at cheating is still cheating.

 

[sabercrusader]

OH GOD NO!!!!!!

Are you saying that sniper rifles will now have to be used......... AS SNIPER RIFLES???

What is the world coming to.

I know right! I know the fact that quickscoping does take skill, with the exception being CoD:MW2, but how about using what a sniper is really made for. LONG-RANGE KILLS!!!

no sniping is not officially worthless since I am a reasonable sniper in my own right and I don't know how to quickscope.

My advice to the OP is:learn to use a sniper rifle for what it is for, if your going to complain about not being able to kill at close range with a sniper rifle then you should just use a assualt rifle or an smg.

 

[The Austin]

So now people actually have to aim with a scope?! You mean like a Sniper?! What the fuck!

(Obvious sarcasm. Quickscoping is about as legitimate a strategy as DOS attacks.)

 

[filiptom]

I like it how you consider this actual sniping.