Sniping is officially WORTHLESS in Black Ops
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I completely agree with this change, see now, you'll actually need to be SKILLED in order to snipe. Giving a weapon or tactic a disadvantage so that you can't exploit the hell out of it is exactly how balance is supposed to work, don't be a ***** just because you actually have to TRY and get kills now.
How exactly does making an entire class of weapons completely useless "balance the game more"? I'm an amazing sniper in CoD4 and MW2. I've been playing black ops all day today, and you know what? I gave up sniping. Until this gets patched, there is absolutely no point to them. ARs are just as good at long range, and you can actually hit the target you aim at in less than 4 seconds of staring down a scope.super_robo_raptor said:
To the people saying this adds skill to sniping... No. You are wrong. CoD4 sniping took skill. This is the opposite of skill. Having your shots fire randomly until you hit the scope time threshold is not skill, it is LUCK. Luck is BAD.
I'm sure I'll get flamed by the hordes of camp snipers, who are still setting up their claymore and hiding in the bushes because "that's how it's supposed to be done". /eyeroll
Um...so stopping quickscoping is going to ruin snipers forever?MetallicaRulez0 said:
When did Sniper Rifles become synonymous with close range weapons?
And I seriously don't think you'll see a real life marksman using his long-range, commonly single-action rifle when in close proximity of the enemy.GSpin said:
Sniper teams are pairs. The Spotter, with typically a shorter range, more flexible weapon such as an assault rifle, while the shooter carries his long rifle. The Spotter is there to provide close range security for the shooter, as well as spotting.
A good case is the Sniper Championships held by the US Military. Sniper teams enter from all over the world and compete against each other. A general event is a rapidly changing battle situation. The spotter and shooter are in a hide and must take down targets as they appear. The enemy is simulated to be advancing on them.
In most cases the weapons used by the shooter are unsuitable for closer range work as the targets get close and the spotter must take up his weapon to keep putting the targets down, they work on different distances simultaneously. When the enemy is too close, the team is told to retreat.
At which point they double time to a pistol range set up for the final portion of the round. They are forced to use only their pistols at ranges that in Call of Duty would still be classified as medium range, the ranges you typically find most efficient with an assault rifle or even sniper rifle in the game.
Being able to quickscope with your bolt-action marksman's rifle is stupid. No CoD is not meant to be realistic, that's true and I don't think it has to be, it's fun as it is. What I object to is people whinging and whining about a stupid exploit being taken out of the game, as if it's their only option and that it was totally skillful and made you a master of, frankly, sweet fuck all.
As an aside, you take a shot with a Barret 50. without adequate support and you'll dislocate your shoulder at the least.
I'm not even a sniper and I can tell how stupid this "fix" is. The very few times I do snipe in other games, I'm looking over the map not scoped in and once I see someone, then I scope in and shoot. If you have to wait 2-3 seconds to shoot accurately, the enemy has probably already turned the corner or in a building or something.MetallicaRulez0 said:
There are lots of people saying sniping is useless:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/960188-call-of-duty-black-ops/57091069
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/960189-call-of-duty-black-ops/57091753
Quickscoping itself wasn't broken, the aim assist was being exploited not quickscoping. It's sad that a developer can't tell what is actually being exploited in a game that they make. Then, the developer creates a "fix" that makes a whole class of guns obsolete, it's just completely unprofessional just like that Konami E3 conference.
Uhh...don't quickscope then? DURR
Snipe like a SNIPER. Quickscoping is cheap and cowardly. There was never any skill involved, anyway. It's a player exploiting the aim assist.
Snipe like a SNIPER. Quickscoping is cheap and cowardly. There was never any skill involved, anyway. It's a player exploiting the aim assist.
Quickscoping does take skill and it sucks for the quickscopers, but I stand on this, a Sniper rifle is an IMMOBILE weapon. The Barret .50 Cal in particular is NOT FIREABLE from the shoulder. It requires a tripod mount and a spotter and is usually used over a half a mile away on human size targets. Much close than that and it's a waste of a bullet on a guy. Considering it would turn wahtever person it hit into a corpse uncanny semblence to a doughnut. Its a vechicle immobilizer at its closer ranges, particularly so with hellfire rounds in use (referred to as FMJ in CoD). As aforementioned Quickscoping is just a way to get a one shot kill without the prescision of a headshot at any range. Good riddance to garbage.
Wow, he didn't even mention quickscoping or close range sniping. He just said sniping. And, that's what this thread is about sniping, not quickscoping.SixWingedAsura said:
I agree with the quickscope haters--quit your bitching. If you want to quick-scope while running around, play Halo.
FIX THE EXPLOIT!!! You just said aim assist is the culprit, not quickscoping. Treyarch just covered up the exploit and broke sniping.THEJORRRG said:
It's their game. They'll do what they want. Why do they have to cater to a group of people that wanted to play one way? Games evolve, maybe they thought that this needed to be dropped so the pace of the game will change. Whatever reason they say will never be good enough for you, be it realisism or to balance the game (even if it isn't a problem, and in my experience, it wasn't a huge problem in MW2). But it's their game, and they'll do what they want with it. Maybe try and use a different strategy or go play a different game. They nerfed it, go cry because they don't have to please you and they make a few changes to their fucking game.
Sniper the normal way? I always find no scopers annoying, for whatever reason, I can't say I'm sad that they can't do it. So what if it takes skill, if everyone mastered no scoping, it would become a very bland game.
Team Fortress 2 FTW
Team Fortress 2 FTW
There is no reason to insult the person just because you don't agree with their opinion. Insulting someone else will just get you into trouble.scoober1111 said:
On Topic: I am happy they took quick scoping out of the game. It makes the Sniper class more realistic and more challenging. In my opinion if they are going to make one weapon class more realistic they need to make all of the weapon classes more realistic. I understand that video games are meant to be less realistic but at the same time some realism is good to have.
I find sniping quite ballanced now, Ive heard so much complaining about this its getting old, They ballanced it out for everyone, Now go drive your little C4 RC car into someone's knee and blow them to kingdom come.