Sniping is officially WORTHLESS in Black Ops

[Arashiofordo3]

So many different ways to say "use the sniper rifle like a sniper rifle" in one thread, I'm quite impressed.

Despite not playing all that much online multiplayer (mostly due to lacking the equipment to do so), I must agree with the people saying this is a good thing, why? Well you know when a film features a 'cold, cool sniper' type character? Do you notice what they do in the film when sniping?



For those of you who guessed: "took up an elevated position and used the sniper for what it was made for." You get a big shiny medal and a parade! (and is then shot by said sniper for standing out too much)

For those of you who guessed: "Bunny hops like a fucking idiot through the middle of the battle field only having to twitch his scope to his eye for his enemy to die" You are knifed repeatedly in the balls and then tea bagged for eternity... (and then the sniper shoots you)



Its not about 'legitimate play-styles' or 'its a game vs its supposed to be realistic' Surly its about the romantic image of a single lone wolf man slowly and silently destroying his foe through attrition and patience and the actual role of a battlefield sniper (i.e. long range support) and not the Armageddon easter bunny's own personal parricide.

 

[Arashiofordo3]

ppl keep saying sniping is for long range.. have u seen the size of cod maps? thats not long range..

To be fully honest they shouldn't be involving some of the snipers AT ALL. Short range marksman type rifles would be a better choice, but due to the incessant presence of these weapons from the early days of FPS's its kinda figured that they should be included anyway. After all if they weren't there the quick scope fan boys would surly be up in arms about the whole thing.

 

[Kurt Horsting]

Then don't quick scope. Done.

 

[Platinum117]

This is a bit of a shame, unfortunately snipers are always going to be a double edged blade in multiplayer, nerf them like this and people will camp. Upgrade them and people will break gameplay by raping you with quickshots

 

[chronobreak]

Yeah but to me and anyone I play with, that playstyle tends to make the games a lot less fun, I don't give a shit what real sniping is like as long as the game moves at a good pace.

So, you don't like to snipe people. Use an assault rifle or something else, right?

 

[hottsaucekid]

They should make the sniping like TF2 to prevent quick scoping and unbalanced snipers.

basically this. make it do more damage for actually doing it right.

 

[jopomeister]

This makes me so happy.

 

[WestMountain]

People of the Escapist, this is a new CoD, it doesn't have to be a copy of the old ones, that would just make atleast me very bored if it was just MW2 with some new guns.

 

[Soods]

I find this awesome

 

[Wicky_42]

LOL FINALLY - snipers that will, you know, SNIPE! And he has the audacity to ***** about it - 'it's a legitimate way to play!!11 :'( ' sure, go on then. Oh wait, it's the GAME that makes it legitimate, not your expectations? And this game disagrees? Cry some more and go back to cod4. No sympathy.

 

[PanicxBoss]

''camp at the back of the map being a ***** ass sniper'' he means camp at the back of the map being a normal sniper...

Pretty sure every real-life sniper falls into this guy's *****-ass category. I bet they're just all broken up about that.

 

[jboking]

Spoiler: OH NO'S, I CAN'T QUICKSCOPE WITH A SNIPER RIFLE ANYMORE. BAWWW, TREYARCH YOU SO MEAN!

[HEADING=2]

Go learn how to use strategy/discover a new playstyle. It's not about realism. It's not about balance. It's about Treyarch responding to it's community that has called foul on quickscoping (with easily one of the most powerful weapons in the game) for ages.​

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[YoBadMama]

Sniping is not worthless, just more fair to other players who want to have fun.

 

[ssgt splatter]

Yay!!! No more quick-scoping assholes! I hate quick-scopers with a passion. For those of you who need to quick-scope with the sniper, then I guess it's time for you to learn how to fire the gun in a realistic fassion, not this pull-left-trigger-for-split-second-then-fire-and-get cheap-kill bullshit. Oh and OP, don't be a ***** about losing your ability to quick-scope.

 

[ssgt splatter]

OP The game isn't unbalanced because they fixed sniper rifles, sniper rifles are for LONG RANGE not this up close nonsense. If you want to run around one shotting people at close range there's already a gun for that, it's called a shotgun.

I don't snipe in any shooter because I suck at it. But snipers should have the ability to have one shot at winning a close range battle, with an automatic gun you have like 10 shots to kill compared to a sniper. Now snipers have that ONE SHOT but know it's just plain luck based with no skill; How is that an improvement?

You're supposed to be shooting at long range, if someone gets close you rely on your secondary weapon. It's nonsense that you can kill in ONE bullet at long range and then ONE close range.

See with a shotgun you get to kill people close range but when someone spots you at long range you're at disadvantage.

That's how it works you pick long range you're good at long but suck at short. You can't have it all in one package

THANK YOU Snotnarok! I couldn't have put it better myself.

 

[Wicky_42]

Good riddance. Do you know how many times I've been one-shotted by an M40+ACOG at point blank range today before I could get a second shot off with my MP5? Today alone, it's been somewhere between ten and fifteen. Oh, and let me preempt the "lrn2play": I average around 30-10 per game, regardless of play mode. Quick-scoping is bullshit, it breaks the balance of the game by giving a player the ability to score a one-hit-kill at any range without having to aim for the head.

Quickscoping is broken, yet you use the MP5.

... Haha. This forum is freaking hilarious.

You act as though you've got a point to make, yet you make condescending remarks and explain jack shit.

... Haha. This forum is freaking hilarious.

I've made my points so many times I really don't even care anymore.

But essentially, quickscoping (if you use a reg scope) is arguably the most difficult strategy in the game and is in no way overpowered or cheap

And yet your argument is irrelevant - this game doesn't support 'quick scoping'. Neither does TF2, or BF2, if memory serves. Just cos CS, CoD and MW do doesn't mean all should - indeed, there's a VERY strong case for making sniper rifles a rifle used for, you know, sniping, rather than melee.

If you want a weapon that can kill quickly at point blank take a shotgun, or an smg (or a rocket launcher...), if you like a fast flowing game take an assault rifle or smg, and if you like popping heads at 100 yards then take a marksman rifle or sniper.

It's not hard to use the right weapon for the job, lol

 

[deth2munkies]

Spoiler

The first page is by and large ignorant comments so I'll address mainly that issue:

The problem is that Call of Duty as a series (at least in most multiplayer modes) is not based around camping and the maps typically don't provide very many good sniper perches. Even when you get a good sniper perch, you can't sit there hard scoped all day or you'll get knifed, shot by some guy 2 feet outside your field of vision, or miss tons and tons of potential kills.

Quickscoping is different than a short hardscope: Quickscoping abused aim-assist, and if you watch videos of people doing it, you'll see the hardscope doesn't even come up on the screen, it just shows it zooming in and the guy is dead before he's even scoped. There is NOTHING wrong with Hardscoping then immediately shooting where you're fucking aiming, it's necessary for a sniper no matter how far back you are due to the sheer fact you can't sit there hardscoped in CoD, it's just not worth it. (Edit: Unless you have a thermal, but that shit is even more broken than quickscoping ever was)

Congratulations on breaking the game with your overnerf on what wasn't a huge problem in the first place. Now fix your goddamn killstreaks and get better anti-hack software.

The fact the community is still spouting the same nonsense page after page after page is disconcerting.

How about you don't talk about the issue until you've played Call of Duty games for a while? IF you did, you might notice how the only spots worth sniping from have very limited windows in which you can see people, AND you can't stay hardscoped, so you HAVE to scope and shoot within ~1-2 seconds, which is why this overnerf is KILLING the entire foundation of the Sniper Rifle based on something that was quite far down the list of actual problems in the first place.

 

[DirgeNovak]

If you don't like it, don't buy the fucking game and stop bitching.
Jesus!

 

[WittyName]

Well... watched the video.

I'm still not seeing how this is a bad thing.