So, anyone else see price ignored for ps4 and xbox720?

[The White Hunter]

I'd say they'd be around the same this time around, Probably sold at a loss.

You have to keep in mind, since the initial release of Current Gen consoles the world has fallen into serious economic troubles. Europe especially but here in the US we are only marginally better off. In other words, if the price is too high people will do with the current gen what they did with the PS2... Ignore the successor in favor of the device they already own, thus forcing the game companies to make games for the previous generation in order to make sales.


Also, with steam big picture you can play new release games on your TV without buying an expensive new piece of hardware. And since split screen is quickly becoming a thing of the past (not an advocate of this, but it is happening) why not just hook the PC up to the TV to play games? Especially when a number of games only require a wired controller if you want to use a non mouse/keyboard setup for a game.

WE need more splitscreen D:

Nothing like playing a game on the couch with your buddy, as I've been doing with Left 4 Dead 2 in the big picture mode.

Or recently hammering through all three Golden Axes, Streets of Rages and Gunstar Heroes. > > also on PC on the couch.

 

[Jegsimmons]

So, I have seen many "professional" look into the possible specs of these new consoles coming out in a year or two, but no price.

So as a quick refresher about the price this generation.

ps3 599
xbox360 499
59.99 games
Xboxlive price increase.
Brown/Gray games.

These are just at the top of my head, but even though they were few, they were major. Though possible consumers praise the next gen graphics of the consoles, seem to ignore the price they'll pay for it. It almost seems like the consumers believe these new power house consoles will cost less than 400 or even less than 500usd to own. Sure, the Wii-U isn't a graphical powerhouse, but the potential there compared to the obvious "make it look pretty" of the new consoles isn't as appealing.

So anyone else actually take into consideration the price of the next consoles?

xbox considering, isnt too bad.

ps4 on the other hand, doesnt need to be 600 bucks (plus sales tax), despite the lack of value in the US dollar. 60$ games have been around for years, no biggie, and xboxlive only needs to be bought once.

that and i doubt they will be sold for this much, expect about 100 bucks slashed on both of them.
though, not so much from sony. they dont understand that no one wants a system that would require them to cut off their utilities to purchase.

 

[ThePS1Fan]

Probably sold at a loss.

I'm honestly curious as to how you ended up with this conclusion.

That's how the console market works. You sell the hardware at a loss to maximise sales and then make profits through software sales.

That's why when new consoles come out they are on par more or less with PC rigs but cost significantly less. Then as the hardware becomes cheaper the price of consoles goes down to attract even more consumers.

OT: The cost will probably be around the same as it was last gen. I just hope this generation doesn't last as long. Games shouldn't be developed for almost seven year old hardware.

 

[Rule Britannia]

Woodysgamertag made a video about this he said that the 720 would be $299-$399. The video was only made a couple of days ago.

I can pay that. It's worth it anyway so long as they don't make another console in the next couple of years.

 

[Solo-Wing]

I think both will be priced around $4-500

It's just a hardware upgrade and blu-ray has had time to level out. I don't see them being super expensive and Sony's architecture will probably become closer to PS2. Backwards compatibility may be an issue because of it as well.

Out of all of my friends I have asked, lack of backwards compatibility and price is why they never bought a PS3. If they do not include Backward compatibility all though the next gen Sony's next gen console with be their last without a doubt. Even the Xbox 360 kept it's Backwards compatibility. Even if it was not for the entire Xbox library.

 

[mattttherman3]

Max I'd pay is 400$, anything over is fucking bull shit, I'd just as soon get a Wiiu

 

[flarty]

Anti alaising was pretty much not present at all, loadsa jaggies. Etc.

Regarding your video

That's because the ps3 is not capable of AA. Which is clearly present in the Kara video posted earlier in the thread which along with shallow skin textures and being set in a sterile laboratory environment, that required nothing other than a flat plain white texture everywhere else, was massively dependent on lighting and animation to be as impressive as it was.

Nice rant i agree mostly apart from the witcher 2, but that was because i couldn't get in to it. It was indeed a gorgeous game.

 

[fix-the-spade]

So anyone else actually take into consideration the price of the next consoles?

They will be under $500, way under $500.

The PS3's launch was an unmitigated disaster for Sony. Second week sales dropped as much as eighty percent on the opening week and it failed to meet just about everyone's projected sales figures (including the gaming press' much more conservative estimates). The reason was very simple and it was $599, nobody will be making that mistake again.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Thus we come to one of the major reasons why I have little to no interest in the next console generation.

 

[Negatempest]

I'll go on detail about a few things.

Games increased in price by $10. So who is to say that they won't push the price by $5usd. Thus making games 64.99usd?
What also irks me is that many gaming websites writers are making predictions about the consoles leaving the Wii-U in the dust graphically, which is the greatest complaint used against that console. But for such a prediction to be true, the consoles would have to be well over $500usd to leave the Wii U in the dust.

To me, all I see is xbox live price increasing again next gen and games costing another $5usd.

 

[DeltaEdge]

Now that I think about it, I guess I wouldn't be surprised if the next PS and Xbox consoles weren't that much technically better than the current gen and focused more on gimmicks and features. I can easily see the consoles going into the 700s next gen if they did serious modern upgades, and at that price point, I would just buy a computer, because there is almost no way that I would pay 700 for a console.

 

[Woodsey]

I'm still bitter that there's even going to be a next generation of consoles. I mean, Christ, the Xbox 360 and PS3 are capable of so much graphically and game-wise. There's no reason for them to update except for wanting to keep up with Nintendo's Wii-U bullshit.

And if you think I'm being unreasonable, I would like to point out that this was rendered on a PS3.


I know it's David Cage, and I know it's more theoretical than anything, but honestly, just look at it.

Plus, video games are already outrageously expensive and expensive to produce - I, for one, don't envy paying upwards of 80$ plus tax for the next CoD. In order to take advantage of any new technologies, devs will have to devote even more time to graphics programming and even less to actually making games.

I really wouldn't be surprised if there were some kind of market crash or recession in the game industry. It's ridiculous what the expect people to buy without question.
[small]Though given the sheep mentality of many gamers, I can't say it's entirely without reason.[/small]

Probably sold at a loss.

I'm honestly curious as to how you ended up with this conclusion.

That isn't particularly impressive at all. Besides, a lot of developers seem to be bemoaning how hamstrung they are by the consoles at the minute. As for them being sold at a loss, because this generation was sold at a loss, minus the Wii. Pretty sure the last one was as well.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Didn't Sony announce a couple of months ago that their next console will be very affordable? To me that spells $400 or less. Anything above that and I'm not even thinking about it. No sir.

 

[Something Amyss]

So anyone else actually take into consideration the price of the next consoles?

Lots of people. People who have made the same ridiculous variants everyone else has about technology put into them. Much like the net gen will either be only slightly more powerful or smarter than Deep Thought, these new consoles will either be sold at a solid markup with cheap technology, or cost 5 gazillion dollars.

What they cost naturally depend on what tech goes into them.

You have to keep in mind, since the initial release of Current Gen consoles the world has fallen into serious economic troubles. Europe especially but here in the US we are only marginally better off. In other words, if the price is too high people will do with the current gen what they did with the PS2...

Yes, but you have to also understand that these companies have demonstrated a lack of ability to change to fit the world around them.

Nintendo and Sony have dueled it out with overpriced handhelds that end up in direct competition with tablets, smartphones, and dollar apps. And that's just the last year or two.

 

[Flames66]

What currency are you working in?

OT: I have no idea, but I expect it will be far above what I am willing to pay.

 

[Bvenged]

Are those prices in USD?

Yeah, I've seen the spec's for the new Xbox from a few credible sources (though there's a chance they might change but they ARE realistic) and I'd say the price for a computer of the same hardware would be about £350-400.

Given that MS and Sony will likely sell their new consoles for a loss again and recuperate the profit from game sales, subscription services, peripherals and accessories, I'd say the most likely price for the 8th Generation Xbox will be about £299. Maybe £270 for bottom tier console package (small HDD, 1 controller) and £360 for top tier (kinect), with one in the middle for about £300-320 (game and 2 controllers). That would be just about affordable in this current economic climate in the UK.

 

[Cronq]

With the expected specs some people are tossing out: 16Gb RAM + 2TB HDD + an SoC/APU & a dedicated GPU + built in Kinect/Move, and maybe even secondary LCD displays or screens....

If the fanatics get what they want, these machines are going to be $500+. I can very easily see Microsoft selling these things subsidized for $400 if people are willing to sign a 2 year agreement for Xbox Live. There is no way that Sony & Microsoft are going to be able to release their next-gen boxes without losing massive amounts of money on them.

The only way a console hardware company makes money is through game licensing, accessories, and subscriptions.

If Sony & MS can't release a console for under $500, they will be DESTROYED by iPads and Android Tablets. All Apple needs to do is release an officially supported controller and they could literally kill an entire industry.

 

[Negatempest]

Are those prices in USD?

Yeah, I've seen the spec's for the new Xbox from a few credible sources (though there's a chance they might change but they ARE realistic) and I'd say the price for a computer of the same hardware would be about £350-400.

Given that MS and Sony will likely sell their new consoles for a loss again and recuperate the profit from game sales, subscription services, peripherals and accessories, I'd say the most likely price for the 8th Generation Xbox will be about £299. Maybe £270 for bottom tier console package (small HDD, 1 controller) and £360 for top tier (kinect), with one in the middle for about £300-320 (game and 2 controllers). That would be just about affordable in this current economic climate in the UK.

USD and you guys are rich T^T.

But those prices are expensive for the current gamers. Just saying that the powerhouses that "we" want cannot exist unless pony up an expensive amount of cash. Think about if for a sec, "if" the companies want the same amount of customers they have now, being that expensive is going to severely limit who and who cannot afford console games. Might as well buy a decent computer without those extra charges that some consoles add on for the same features.