SO apparently navi is a language now

[Akalistos]

Ironically he is the guy with the lowest grades. That is how He spends his time in lessons where he should be learning a real
language that can get him somewhere instead of a fake one.

Sorry, but what?
He obviously doesn't like German I suppose so he learned something he liked more - And you judge him for doing what he wants rather than what the school wants him to do?
Granted using the language just to insult others isn't the best way to do it but still.

So I want to know escapists. What are your thoughts on Na'vi being a Language?

It is a language. A language many speaks.
What do you think of Elvish? Is that not a language too?
What about the dying language of Ainu?

How about using the full capacity of your brain to benefit mankind?
Is that overrated all of a sudden?
There are knowledge that are useful and there a lot that aren't. I don't need to know that to skip most of the level in Super Mario Bros 1, you need to take go over the final pipe in 1-2 and run until you get the pipe to level 4 that in level 4-2, hit the invisible coin box after the the second gap and hit the box with the vine that will lead you to level 8. (I dare you to say that in one breath). What i want and need to know, what will happen to the dumbass human race when the sun go supernova and how can i help.

In school, you will not be taught that, ever.
You will be taught about drunken racist authors who died in some gutter who we today praise.

That's Call Human culture. If you had listen, we are preserving it because that who we are. Even if were doom in 25000 years and the sun blow up and take the human race, don't you want to a least leave a mark saying Zeithri was here?

 

[The DSM]

Did people hate them for saying "HEY LISTEN" all the time?

 

[Akalistos]

To be fair, Cameron hired a linguist to actually create the Na'vi language. So it was a proper (if fictional) language before it was actually in the film.

To be fair, when will they use it? And to who will they speak to?

I wasn't saying it wasn't dumb, just that it is actually a complete, speakable language.

-m

I don't debate that it's dumb. It's the Speakable part that cause problem. Can you really call it a language if your the only one around that used it. (I don't believe that there a mob of Avatar fan that speak Na'vi in between work or school.)

... yes?

It's still a language, it's just disused. Like latin. Or Esperanto.

Esperanto is actually a pretty good example. Artificially created, and spoken by next to no one.

-m

I believe that a language is a form of communication between individual. No one speak Esperanto? Why is it a language. To make you at least look it the way i do, I will retort in Hieroglyphic:
Eyes of Ra, pharaoh, Hippopotamus, Stork, Anubis, pharaoh, cat, big cat, Ra!

 

[thenumberthirteen]

He should learn Cityspeak. That nets you far greater Nerd cred.

 

[hannan4mitch]

Interesting...
However, not all fake languages are completely fake (LOTR Elvish is based on Scandinavian languages, the Fremen language from the Dune series is based on Arabic and other Middle-Eastern languages, ect.) But I have to admit, that is lame...

 

[Matt_LRR]

To be fair, Cameron hired a linguist to actually create the Na'vi language. So it was a proper (if fictional) language before it was actually in the film.

To be fair, when will they use it? And to who will they speak to?

I wasn't saying it wasn't dumb, just that it is actually a complete, speakable language.

-m

I don't debate that it's dumb. It's the Speakable part that cause problem. Can you really call it a language if your the only one around that used it. (I don't believe that there a mob of Avatar fan that speak Na'vi in between work or school.)

... yes?

It's still a language, it's just disused. Like latin. Or Esperanto.

Esperanto is actually a pretty good example. Artificially created, and spoken by next to no one.

-m

I believe that a language is a form of communication between individual. No one speak Esperanto? Why is it a language. To make you at least look it the way i do, I will retort in Hieroglyphic:
Eyes of Ra, pharaoh, Hippopotamus, Stork, Anubis, pharaoh, cat, big cat, Ra!

Point being, even disused languages are still able to communicate meaning if two or more people learn it.

A construction of gramatical rules, syntax, and conveyance of meaning is a language, used or not.

You legitimately could respond to me in hieoglyphics, if you had any idea how the language was constructed, and it would be equally valid as a means of communication as typing in english. It would just have the limitation that no one here knows how to read it.

-m

 

[Samurai Goomba]

I fail to see how speaking Navi is any worse than speaking any other fictional language, whether that's Elvish, Klingon or whatever.

 

[Akalistos]

I believe that a language is a form of communication between individual. No one speak Esperanto? Why is it a language. To make you at least look it the way i do, I will retort in Hieroglyphic:
Eyes of Ra, pharaoh, Hippopotamus, Stork, Anubis, pharaoh, cat, big cat, Ra!

Point being, even disused languages are still able to communicate meaning if two or more people learn it.

A construction of gramatical rules, syntax, and conveyance of meaning is a language, used or not.

You legitimately could respond to me in hieoglyphics, if you had any idea how the language was constructed, and it would be equally valid as a means of communication as typing in english. It would just have the limitation that no one here knows how to read it.

-m

Like i said, i understand you. I know what the basic of a language. The problem is in the usage you can make. It become useless if your the only one speaking it (or reading) it. Also, you caught me! I have no idea what i wrote in Hieroglyphic. For all i know, i could have said: Twilight is Gay!

it would be equally valid as a means of communication as typing in english.

Here, In that phrase you made a bit of my point. A means of Communication. That's The function of a language. I can understand if your German to speak Dutch (is it Dutch, well, that what the manual of my TV says.) Because a whole nation speak it. I don't say we should all bow down before English. I'm french (French Canadian)! We aren't as many that speak French than English. Should that mean i should forget all my years of hard work remembering that Hibou Chou Genou bijou Joujou pou take a X in plural form? No. What i says is there no use to learn or create a Language that maybe a hand full of peoples(if the creator is lucky) use. That include Klingon, Elvish, Smurf, Star War's one and Videogame related ones.

 

[not_the_dm]

Interesting...
However, not all fake languages are completely fake (LOTR Elvish is based on Scandinavian languages, the Fremen language from the Dune series is based on Arabic and other Middle-Eastern languages, ect.) But I have to admit, that is lame...

I'm going to have to pick you up on the Elvish there. Quenya (High-Elven) is based on Latin and Finnish whilst Sindarin (Grey-Elven) is based on Welsh. As far as I'm aware the black speech has no real world basis and the sylvan tongues are not used in any of the books (including the Silmarilion and other such books).

 

[Rachel317]

Yeah, the employees of (some) ASDA stores were forced to learn the Na'vi language and were painted blue for the day it was released on DVD.

Those poor, poor sods...

It's almost as sad as the whole Klingon language thing...it's fictional!!

 

[The Night Shade]

Wait if he says HEY LISTEN all the time then my nightmare became true

 

[Anarchemitis]

What I thought when you titled it "Navi is a language now", I thought you meant as in it was some kind of International Standardized spiel as if there was a new German or French or Japanese or Swahili. I think you need to fix the title.

Navi is like Klingon or Tolkien's Elvish wherein it's a fictional medium of main usage and it's any nerd's perogative if they wish to learn how to speak it, which you have no right to deny him to do so in the same way everyone is entitled to their opinion. QED.
If an author wishes to build that much depth to his or her universe, more power to them. I don't consider it an issue if someone wishes to memorize that effect.

 

[Ophiuchus]

Marter but he's in a lesson for a gcse qualification in german. I don't know what the equivalent is in other countries but I'm Britain they make or break ur career

They really don't. After you've done A-Levels, GCSEs are pretty meaningless. After you've done further qualifications, be it a degree or something vocational, they're almost completely meaningless. In adult life they're only ever referred to by minimum-wage employers who ask for GCSE Maths and English to show that you can read, write and add up to a basic standard.

About the kid speaking some made-up language: oh noes. Seems a bit silly to me, but it can't be too hard to ignore.

 

[Xaryn Mar]

Call me old school but, I'm still trying to find a means by which to learn Twi-Lek...and Mandalorian although, since they are a collective of different species, they may not have a native language [anymore]

Mando'a (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mando'a) is what you are looking for. I have no idea where to find information in Twi'lek buth then again it would be impossible to speak completely without having the two lek's.

 

[theamazingbean]

Already pretty much is. Search Google for the learn Navi forum.

Oh my it's diffucult to type after several bears, gins and scotches.

Ahh, drinking and hairy gay sex, a favorite combination of mine as well.

 

[Z(ombie)fan]

This is the same question I have with every one of these stupid things. How do you get enough words from a movie to effectively communicate with someone?

I ask the same question. I'm curious, is there some fan community out there extending the Na'vi language or is it something semi-official?

Weird that people want to pick up on Na'vi language. I thought it was just some freaks on deviantart with a Na'vi fetish, though maybe I'm not one to talk, as I was translating Elvish in maths class years back... ^^; (always had good grades for my languages though).

which of the couple hundred different fantasy stories in which elves had their own language are you translating?

Though really, elves are cool: I can understand THAT.

Na'vi however?

no.

not. cool. not even vaguely.

What's wrong with the Na'Vi? I mean, yes there are Na'Vi obsessed creepers out there. However, it seems to me that most Avatar enthusiasts are expressing their misguided desire to embrace an active outdoor-sey lifestyle. Most of the appeal of the Na'Vi is that they're in this beautiful world, and Avatar fans just don't realize that a similar experience, albeit less idyllic than in the movie, is just though the door.
Yes its a shame that they don't realize this, but isn't it a good thing that they'd want that at all?

because they come from a movie that could be rated a big fat zero and I still would call it overtated: i HATE avatar. I would never disgrace my movie collection with that atrocity of a film.

and the na'vi were the worst part of it. they were stupid cat people and not a single one of them were likable. thats a sin of character design: they are unlikable and decrease the value of the film.

 

[Erana]

This is the same question I have with every one of these stupid things. How do you get enough words from a movie to effectively communicate with someone?

I ask the same question. I'm curious, is there some fan community out there extending the Na'vi language or is it something semi-official?

Weird that people want to pick up on Na'vi language. I thought it was just some freaks on deviantart with a Na'vi fetish, though maybe I'm not one to talk, as I was translating Elvish in maths class years back... ^^; (always had good grades for my languages though).

which of the couple hundred different fantasy stories in which elves had their own language are you translating?

Though really, elves are cool: I can understand THAT.

Na'vi however?

no.

not. cool. not even vaguely.

What's wrong with the Na'Vi? I mean, yes there are Na'Vi obsessed creepers out there. However, it seems to me that most Avatar enthusiasts are expressing their misguided desire to embrace an active outdoor-sey lifestyle. Most of the appeal of the Na'Vi is that they're in this beautiful world, and Avatar fans just don't realize that a similar experience, albeit less idyllic than in the movie, is just though the door.
Yes its a shame that they don't realize this, but isn't it a good thing that they'd want that at all?

because they come from a movie that could be rated a big fat zero and I still would call it overtated: i HATE avatar. I would never disgrace my movie collection with that atrocity of a film.

and the na'vi were the worst part of it. they were stupid cat people and not a single one of them were likable. thats a sin of character design: they are unlikable and decrease the value of the film.

Your entitled to your opinion on the movie, but insisting that unquantifiable things are facts, especially without supplying any concrete evidence, is unnecessary in every circumstance.
Take a bit of time to read about logical fallacies; they can be pretty useful when trying to sound level-headed in a conversation.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

so wait he kept saying "HELLO HEY LISTEN!" during the whole class ? that would get rather annoying...

but in all seriousness i am wondering where he found a navi dictonary i wouldn't mind learning it. it seems to me that it could be the next klingon.

It could be worse, he could of been spending his time learning WOOKIE.