So, Bahar Mustafa has been charged with RMMC (according to the Guardian)

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dirtysteve said:
She tweeted some stuff around the Conservative Party Conference, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQsn_iAUsAIvPXJ.jpg:large I think this is the basis for inciting violence, as apparently some people were spat on and threatened.

TBH I think she's reaping what her and people like her have sown, they supported these laws, but honestly though themselves above them. The truth is, they never wanted equality under the law, their attempts to redefine sexism/racism give them away. They wanted special privileges, to be protected groups.

A lot of people were snarkily calling for "Defenders of Free Speech" to come to her aid on Twitter. And, like Yiannopoulos showed, they actually did, despite the disdain Mustafa and her supporters show, it's still worth defending.

#KillAllMen is a joke, and not worth prosecuting, the tweets above are a bit more aggressive, but probably just her usual idiocy. There's cases to be made for free speech and incitement to violence, depending on what she's getting done for.
Oh wow, the U.S. Really is different, those tweets would be considered mild by comparison to the stuff we let slide. Hell, our politicians have said more inflammatory stuff during elections. My states last midterm election featured one Sharon Angle, who suggested that the people should take to the rooftops and use "second amendment solutions" to get rid of the democrat politicians in key districts. We've regularly got people on Twitter openly calling for a race war to expel other ethnicities, and tweeting about dragging gay people behind trucks.

UK law is UK law, but as an American their anti-hate speech laws seem pretty draconian. Or maybe the good old US of A is just too permissive.
 

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dirtysteve said:
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Oh my sides, that first tweet is hilarious. She's a late 20s Student Union rep and long term 'student' that, (if memory serves) lives in her parent's million+ pound home. Bollocks is she working class.
 

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Pluvia said:
It doesn't say she's being charged for the #killallwhitemen hashtag.

But there's going to be five more pages of people assuming this anyway, so this will fall on deaf ears.
Well then, what is she being charged on? Because 'stupid shit on twitter' is all I'm getting from the linked article.
 

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"Racist language is inappropriate in any setting and through any media. We hope this case will serve as a warning to anyone who may think that comments made online are somehow beyond the law." - A 3 year old quote from Jim Brisbane, chief crown prosecutor for the crown prosecution service in Wales in relation to a young mans racist tweets about a footballer for which he was jailed for 56 days.

Thought it was relevant, I mean, I still think its really fucked up to go to jail over saying some ignorant and stupid things on the internet but there it is.
 

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DizzyChuggernaut said:
This is the person that said that "women of color" can't be racist or sexist, right?

To be honest it'll take pretty severe consequences for me to feel sorry for her.
It's less about feeling sorry and more about legal punishment for what's essentially glorified shitposting. Just ain't right.
 

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chocolate pickles said:
Signed the petition, and couldn't be happier. Hope the piece of shit gets a grumpy judge when it comes to sentencing :)
Hear, hear. And add to that an additional wish that she gets nailed to the wall by said judge, as an example - you say stuff like that, you get punished for it. Simple.
 

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Jack Action said:
It's less about feeling sorry and more about legal punishment for what's essentially glorified shitposting. Just ain't right.
Well as others have pointed out, it's very unlikely that she got in "serious" trouble for chatting shit online. I'm purely judging her character here, and if she has that sort of obnoxious, aggressive attitude in public it wouldn't surprise me one bit that she got in legal trouble.
 

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DizzyChuggernaut said:
Jack Action said:
It's less about feeling sorry and more about legal punishment for what's essentially glorified shitposting. Just ain't right.
Well as others have pointed out, it's very unlikely that she got in "serious" trouble for chatting shit online. I'm purely judging her character here, and if she has that sort of obnoxious, aggressive attitude in public it wouldn't surprise me one bit that she got in legal trouble.
Serious or not, she's still getting in trouble for it. Yeah, she's an asshole and a hypocrite, but getting slapped with a fine or a few days in jail is still legal punishment for basically being an idiot online.
 

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Like most others here, I disagree that any tweets seen here, including "#KillAllWhiteMen, should be considered threatening, and as another noted, her speech would be protected in the US because there is no imminence to her vague threats, aside from possibly that Tory one.

Still, she is probably (assumption) the same type of person to SUPPORT the very law she's being charged with, never expecting they would use it on a poor non-white woman like herself. Reaping what she sowed, so to speak. And that's shamefully pleasurable, I must admit, seeing a racist and sexist bigot get a taste of equality.
 

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She shouldn't be arrested but she should be fired, simple as.

I hope some rich white lawyer gets her acquitted, it would be such delicious irony.
 

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My dad is a white man, I love my dad, and would rather not see him killed.
So, yeah, if she's getting in trouble for spewing hate, I'm glad. I'd expect the same thing if someone was going around saying "Kill all Jewish men", for example.
 

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Well, you've been mentioned by name on the KYM article for this OP. Gratz.

OT: I'm in two minds really. On the one hand, arresting her is overkill for what everyone knows is a stupid girl with entitlement issues when simply kicking her out of her job would be sufficient.

On the other hand, this smacks heavily of karma and people in the UK have been arrested for things like malicious trolling so this could be seen as an equal and fair utilisation of the law. The things she has tweeted should not be brushed under the rug as simply a joke and the people who use tweets like killallwhitemen need to have it driven into their skulls that real equality means "treat everyone equally" not whatever insane definition of the week they are using at the time.

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PunkRex said:
She shouldn't be arrested but she should be fired, simple as.

I hope some rich white lawyer gets her acquitted, it would be such delicious irony.
Oh, this is nice. We could get that guy who got in trouble for calling that woman's photo "stunning" to do it. What was his name...

google searching, please hold...

Alexander Carter Silk!
 

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Although she seems willfully ignorant and quite...umm, committed to the cause, I am genuinly worried that this is more to do with the tories enforcing their political vision than for the safety of the public. This may not only strengthen her cause, but also allow stricter anti-protest arrests. Protests which will no doubt be required in the coming years.