So, how about that PETA, huh?

[Kazturkey]

With all due respect Purplerain. I think what your doing here is pointless. Alot of people hate Peta because all they see is their extreme actions in the news (the violent protests, propaganda etc.). But who is to blame for that? Their shooting themselves in the foot with their actions.

Your point is that not all of peta's members are like that, right? And ive noticed you react to just about every post so youve got quite the conversation skills. I personally think your crusade is going to bear more fruit if you took it to the peta themselves and tell those guys to chill because its giving the entire movement a bad name. Should this message somehow get through to them, it will make them look better to everyone, including the folks at the escapist.

My post was rational and linked PETAs own site so he hasnt touched it. I like his selective blindness. (My first one, the second one was a bit insane)

 

[Willwillwritehiswill]

PETA are filed in my brain folder under the same heading as BNP and Religious zealots. Such extreme views and actions they can't fail to be hilarious in almost every way.

 

[wgreer25]

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Yes I have a problem with the fanaticism, but the bigger problem is the lying and deception. Yes PETA kills thousands of animals a year, a little hypocritical. But they also attack people on baseless acusations. Or completely blow something out of proportion. I can site two examples.

There was a professor in CA who was working on things like... I don't know... CURING CANCER. And PETA has harassed him non-stop. Yes he does animal testing on lab rats. But the man should not be the subject of endless persecution (they protest outside his house).

A second example is closer to home for me...

My company is a food manufacturer and we also have a sceince division (technically a separate company but under the same umbrella). The foods we make have a potential phramaseutical (sp?) application. Specifically, we are doing research to show that if you eat certain foods (ones that may surprise you) you can improve cardiovascular health and prevent heart disease. Now we have taken that idea and the science division is actually working on drugs based on the food item, so they are acting like a drug company... and unfortunatly animal testing is required by law. Let me say that again, animal testing is required by LAW. *so if you want to protest, go to Washington*

Well PETA launched a huge campain against our company. They launched a website that had a list of like 12 different things that we supposedly did (none of them were true). They had a video of animals that had been tortured and showed some really cruel lab techniques. And they implied this is what we did (we don't). And to top it all off, they used our logo and some copyrighted ad material from us on the website (so they broke the law there).

They make baseless accusations and don't ever get called on it. I don't know why my company hasn't sued them because by law, we could, for slander and for copyright infringement. Don't be fooled, they have economic and political goals for attacking the people/companies they attack and they can do so with reckless abandon and no consequences... well not completely no consequences, they are hindering cancer research in this country... I actually hope they all get cancer. Sounds harsh, but I really do. I've lost loved ones to cancer and if there is anything that can stop it I am all for it. So when a group of radicals steps forth and say that it is better for my father to die painfully than do a test on a rat... I hope you get cancer.

Now they are correct in that there is a right and a wrong way for meat manufacturers to operate. There are good and bad practices that can be done in labs. Humane ways of working in all of these fields... guess what. If you do animal testing, you are policed by the federal government (and inspected regularly, I have a friend who works for the CDC) ... i.e. you have to use humane practices. So PETA should STFU about animal testing.

 

[Doug]

I love how everyone is claiming that P.E.T.A. are "extremists" sure some things go a little bit over the top but overall they are doing good for animals, some people seriously mistreat animals and P.E.T.A. are trying to help them. Its not a bad thing at all, Seal Clubbing why the fuck not do it at least humanely by shooting them.

P.E.T.A. do stand for a good cause, sometimes they are just a bit misunderstood.

No. They. Do. Not.

Not at all. They do not stand for a good cause.

They directly fund homegrown terrorism.

They have an animal euthanasia rate of over 70% yearly.

They openly support violent acts and protests (not peaceful).

There is nothing good about these people. At all. They do not want people to treat animals nicely. They don't want people to do ANYTHING to animals. They don't want them to help them if they are hurt, feed them if they are hungry, be near them if the animal wants them near, any pets at all, nadda. They are a vile and despicable organization. Nothing is good about them.

They aren't for the ethical treatment of animals.

I think you started making stuff up.

No pets? No feeding animals? Already people like you have contridicted yourselves. Another person here got upset because they were feeding animals thus upset the balance of the ecosystem.

Plus, leave your hate at the door and only answer with facts and not make-believe.

Watch these first before you assume people are bullshiting about PETA. PETA are evil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAt1z_TgPQ4&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqlF2rvcYIs&feature=channel_page

 

[Pimppeter2]

Their cause is good, but you can't help but feel that they are dicks.

Naturally, I have a hate for people who feel sorry when the dog dies, but don't care when the man is run over by a tractor

 

[Dr Ampersand]

I've done it, I've climbed the hill of posts reading every single one of them! *Clears throat*

PETA blinded by good ideals. They're like the hospital doctor guy in Assassin's Creed.

They both have a good foundation(Helping the wounded and helping animals)

They both have done good deeds(helping people recover and rescuing animals and donations.)

But unfortunately they have both hypocritcal(sic) moments where they receive most attention(Breaking that guy's legs though he wasn't sick and killing animals when they're capable of diverting funds to allow them the opportunity to live and then saying pounds that also kill animals(at a much lower percentage) are monsters.)

 

[Uncompetative]

Spoiler: Also, they have hot ads

Wow.

I had no idea she had such big feet.

 

[Trendkill6]

It's the fact that they try to eradicate things you can't get rid of.
They're not going to convince everyone to be vegan and they're not going to rescue every abused from every owner who abuses it.

I do admire that they try to help with the issue but there's always going to be some drunk asshole who beats his dog.

And alot of the hate comes from hypocracy, like the bullshit they feed about loving evey animal no matter what.

Well what about the pitbulls?
http://www.nokillnow.com/PETAkillPitbulls.php
They support the mass euthanasia of Pitbulls.
I have a pitbull and find it very offensive, she is the sweetest dog I've ever owned and has never shown a sign of agression.
Yet were it up to peta I would not be able to have her.

Yeah, not cool to kill existing pitbulls. Still, it's a breed that was bred for dog fighting, and they have that whole "refuse to let go of someone's arm after biting" thing. And they're resistant to pain. VERY resistant. So I don't support killing them outright, but I'm against breeding any more. Most people that own them seem to own them in cities, and that's not a good place for them.

As somebody who lives in a neighborhood where freaking EVERYONE has a pitbull, I can tell you they're not a dog you want to have angry at you. And sometimes the neighbor (me) knows better than the dog's owner how the dog REALLY behaves when nobody's around.

Well intead of stop breeding them altogether couldn't they breed them with another kind of dog to lower the level of agression in pit bulls?

And to be fair in my experience dobermans are a hell of alot meaner yet no one hates them.

 

[shaltir]

It's the fact that they try to eradicate things you can't get rid of.
They're not going to convince everyone to be vegan and they're not going to rescue every abused from every owner who abuses it.

I do admire that they try to help with the issue but there's always going to be some drunk asshole who beats his dog.

And alot of the hate comes from hypocracy, like the bullshit they feed about loving evey animal no matter what.

Well what about the pitbulls?
http://www.nokillnow.com/PETAkillPitbulls.php
They support the mass euthanasia of Pitbulls.
I have a pitbull and find it very offensive, she is the sweetest dog I've ever owned and has never shown a sign of agression.
Yet were it up to peta I would not be able to have her.

Yeah, not cool to kill existing pitbulls. Still, it's a breed that was bred for dog fighting, and they have that whole "refuse to let go of someone's arm after biting" thing. And they're resistant to pain. VERY resistant. So I don't support killing them outright, but I'm against breeding any more. Most people that own them seem to own them in cities, and that's not a good place for them.

As somebody who lives in a neighborhood where freaking EVERYONE has a pitbull, I can tell you they're not a dog you want to have angry at you. And sometimes the neighbor (me) knows better than the dog's owner how the dog REALLY behaves when nobody's around.

Well intead of stop breeding them altogether couldn't they breed them with another kind of dog to lower the level of agression in pit bulls?

And to be fair in my experience dobermans are a hell of alot meaner yet no one hates them.

actually, the pitbull we had a long time ago was the biggest baby in the world. i've seen the difference between a dog that has been trained to fight/mistreated and a dog that has gotten love and attention. the meanist dog i've ever had was actually a spanial..but we got that one from a petstore (puppymills are bad!!), and we won't be doing that again.

 

[Trendkill6]

It's the fact that they try to eradicate things you can't get rid of.
They're not going to convince everyone to be vegan and they're not going to rescue every abused from every owner who abuses it.

I do admire that they try to help with the issue but there's always going to be some drunk asshole who beats his dog.

And alot of the hate comes from hypocracy, like the bullshit they feed about loving evey animal no matter what.

Well what about the pitbulls?
http://www.nokillnow.com/PETAkillPitbulls.php
They support the mass euthanasia of Pitbulls.
I have a pitbull and find it very offensive, she is the sweetest dog I've ever owned and has never shown a sign of agression.
Yet were it up to peta I would not be able to have her.

Yeah, not cool to kill existing pitbulls. Still, it's a breed that was bred for dog fighting, and they have that whole "refuse to let go of someone's arm after biting" thing. And they're resistant to pain. VERY resistant. So I don't support killing them outright, but I'm against breeding any more. Most people that own them seem to own them in cities, and that's not a good place for them.

As somebody who lives in a neighborhood where freaking EVERYONE has a pitbull, I can tell you they're not a dog you want to have angry at you. And sometimes the neighbor (me) knows better than the dog's owner how the dog REALLY behaves when nobody's around.

Well intead of stop breeding them altogether couldn't they breed them with another kind of dog to lower the level of agression in pit bulls?

And to be fair in my experience dobermans are a hell of alot meaner yet no one hates them.

actually, the pitbull we had a long time ago was the biggest baby in the world. i've seen the difference between a dog that has been trained to fight/mistreated and a dog that has gotten love and attention. the meanist dog i've ever had was actually a spanial..but we got that one from a petstore (puppymills are bad!!), and we won't be doing that again.

Exactly, so mine's a big baby too.
All dogs can have agressive tendcies if it's said proplerly it'll won't act as such.
The meanest dog I've had was a collie, mainly because my brother trained it to attack me and only me >.<

 

[TheSunshineHobo]

I'm all for animal rights, but I also like NOT getting cancer from shampoo and if that means monkeys have to die, so be it.

You really think unanimal-tested products are going to give you cancer...?

The principle of exaggeration is foreign to you then?

 

[Del-Toro]

I find it's not their intentions that annoy me it's how they go about with them that puts me off. They just have so much propaganda to try and force people to follow the same opinions as them, that's what really pushes them over the limit for me.

The whole throwing blood on people thing being a perfect example, hell, they probably don't even check to see if it's fofur, and didn't they also publish a book telling 2nd graders that their parents were evil if they ate meat? I just don't like PETA, they do and say stupid things, and they actually want Pamela Anderson's assistance, and given that she's famous for being a whore I know never to actually take any position she endorses.

 

[TopHatTim]

PETA (said: Peter), isn't that a name to send a shiver down your spine. Doesn't it make you so damn mad? Don't you just want to get a big ol' slab of beef and whack it into one of their thick skulls until they see that they are in fact all idiots?

Why?

Why is PETA such a detested group on these forums? I have never agrued either way, for or against them until yesterday. I decided, with such a hate for the group with little backing claims, I should go out and do some research on them.
The group have many agendas such as: factory farming, fur farming, animal testing, and animals in entertainment, and also campaigns against keeping dogs chained up in the backyard, cock, dog and bullfighting as well as fight against speciesism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism). These I can't argue against. These are all things that I would want abolished utterly!

I know people here would hate to see a cruelty against animals and would agree whole-heartedly with their missions, but are more quick to jump on their extremist behaviour.
Also, too many points have been taken too literally. The case of the human milk used instead of cows in ice-cream, it was all satire used to spread more awareness. To quote a member:

Their intention was not for B&J to actually use human milk, but to bring attention that cow milk should only be used for baby cows, just like human milk should only be used for human babies. B&J felt for the trap, and so did you.

Many of PETA's promosions are generally not to be taken so literally as people do.

I do agree however that PETA are fanatics to their cause and extremists in behavious, but with goals like this, I can't see people here doing any more to better these goals.
Many people had claimed that they wish to make the world vegetarian. They probably do, but that is not their choice as only you have the power to control your own diet and eating behaviours; it is not theirs.

Though, in PETA's mission statement, found here:
http://www.peta.org/about/index.asp
It states that,
'PETA focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: on factory farms, in laboratories, in the clothing trade, and in the entertainment industry.'
I don't see them coming after your meat.

People also have claimed that they hurt themselves with extremist fanatic acts more then the help save animals. I would be inclined to disagree finding out, after a bit of research that they do a massive amount to help their cause:
http://www.peta.org/about/victories.asp

Spoiler: Alec Baldwin supports them!

...with a look that could kill!

Going onto two years of being on this site, I have never witnessed such idiocy then that I saw on the 15th of July when a thread of PETA was made. The topic was a user being dumbfounded by a game that PETA had made and had set up a link. The following 16 pages of comments however barely touched on the subject, instead ending up in a massive wank about how PETA is nothing but the devil. Few people were actually able to make sense of what had happened and presented good arguments. The arguments in return were nothing but the same misinformed attacks that wee throughout the thread.

That doesn't sound all to bad or evil now does it? So stop repeating things you half-heard somewhere and recheck your sources.

They must have changed it recently. Because as of last year their goals read that they were going to free animals entirely and that that included pets.

Actually as you can see on archive.org that statement page hasn't been changed since at least February 2007.

Hmmm beats me then.
-continues with hate speech-

Kuliani, the Community Manager himself had to come on and try and stop you guys from acting like jerks:

This thread has gotten out of control and has become a place for people to stop being civil and yell insults.

I'm not targeting this at one person or any person, nor am I saying it was the entire community, I?m just saying for some people to think before they start typing.

I'm really just ranting now and I don't want to. I just really want people to think before they act and stop following the crowd.

I'm not arguing to say that PETA is amazing and everyone should join, hell, I'm not trying to promote them, I just want people to have some sense before they put in their two cents.

And please, I really want this to be civil. I want actual fact and not anti-propaganda, nor do I want to see one line of text exclaiming how evil PETA is or how People should Eat Tasty Animals.

Spoiler: Also, they have hot ads

thier adds are hot becuase they purposly whore out thier organisation using good looking women/men (for the ladies)
and they preach false things and are hypocrits...if it wasnt 1 in the morning nad i say this thread sooner...i'd be tearing it up...

 

[L33tsauce_Marty]

I think I'm gonna give Seal clubbing a try before the eco-terrorists try and stop it.

A seal walks into a club. badumtish.

Guess what I just found

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

Good site. Nice to know someone notices stupid things they do.

 

[Zombie_Fish]

thier adds are hot becuase they purposly whore out thier organisation using good looking women/men (for the ladies)

Bill Bailey was asked to star in one of their adverts. Your arguement is invalid.

 

[titanium turtle]

Uh, they USED cooking mama. They deserve to be punished horribly. Or at least get sued.

Why? It's parody. They can't get sued over it unless it hurts the compain.

Plus it's a game. People are making out like they raped the por woman. Come on. I'm trying to ask people for some common sense about the issue. I would love people to calm down for a second and to take some time to see the other side of the arguement. I took some time and frankly, I find them so much less hateful and level headed then some people here.

PETA killed my father.

Please don't. You're only helping my points.

Dude, loads of other groups are trying to stop the bad things happening to animals, PETA uses team America tactics and pisses off everyone, everyone hates them because they hate everyone else- they portray anyone who eats meat as evil soulless savages despite the fact that eating other animals is the reason why humans exist now, also plants are living things as well so regarldess living things will still be killed, they use propaganda to spread their hatred of groups of people(anyone who eats meat) "ahem- like "ahem" Hitler"" cough cough
also although they are against cruelty to animals e.g. intensive farming they are against killing animals altogether- meat is essential for human diet and the animals are killed as quickly as possible with minimal suffering

Also they hated cod waw cos you can shoot attack dogs- they are not even real fucking dogs but they still have to rant
I hate cruelty to animals but hate peta because they hate me

 

[titanium turtle]

Their cause is good, but you can't help but feel that they are dicks.

Naturally, I have a hate for people who feel sorry when the dog dies, but don't care when the man is run over by a tractor

same here- respect your own

 

[titanium turtle]

I've heard that PETA throws animal blood over people, if someone did that to me I wouldn't be like omg I should stop eating animals because that I will side with the people who just threw blood over me orrr I carry on with my life eating meat like every goddamn human has been doing for 100,000 years(somethin like that).

If some fucker throws blood on me or my family/friends I will break their arm and call it self defense. Throwing paint or blood on someone is both vandalism and assault, and if they touch me with that shit I will take "Minimum defense" the the fucking limit.

exactly- the exact same- ill probably break their kneecaps instead though