So, how about that PETA, huh?

[Stryc9]

Pretty much crap like this: http://www.komonews.com/news/50546027.html

Seriously, complaining about tossing some dead fish around for some veterinarians because the dead fish are degraded? What's the big deal? That and the stuff mentioned before about how they kill more animals taken to their shelters than any other animal welfare group.

Three scoops of soy hypocrisy, lies, and extremist\terrorist behavior topped off with a nice dollop of dairy free idiocy whipped cream. These are the reasons why I have nothing but contempt for PETA.

 

[Doug]

I hate PETA because they bring their insane degree of animal rights fundamentalism into gaming, moaning about having to kill guard dogs in CoD5 (seriously, the game features people being flame throwered to dead, and you moan about a few trained killer dogs being killed in self-defense?), and that proganda piece about cooking mama, and on top of that, that WoW campaign against seal clubbing. Frankly, I wish they'd keep their damn noses out of gaming and stop trying to wrap everything into a war of animal huggers vs animal eaters.

Finally, I eat meat. Humans are designed to eat meat as apart of a balanced diet. This isn't a personal choice or opinion on behalf on my body, its simply a biological necessity. Now, I think the animals should be treated as humanily as possible before they are turned into meat, but I won't allow PETA's BS to try and convince people to give canivores dirty looks.

 

[Specter_]

Its not their advertisments and blatant attention whoring that makes me dislike them (although that is very damned annoying) Its rather the fact that they're hypocrites; the thousands of animals their employees have illegaly euthanised over the years.

Do you have ay articles on this I could read? I'm sure the 'illegal' euthanations could be putting the animals down after some past cruelty. I'm not seeing an issue here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5106600/Peta-under-fire-over-claim-that-it-kills-most-animals-left-at-its-US-headquarters.html

Anyway, the red coat thing is to stop people wearing real fur. They don't do it to everyone, just people who will make big news like celebrites. Causes more publicity for them which they need. Plus, the celebs in general have a truck load of cash and very few morals.

Not true. A couple of years ago 3 peta-guys got beaten up where I live for throwing red paint on the (fake) fur coat on a random lady.
Then they tried to have the guys who beat them up arrested, those said it was self-defense (in germany you can help someone in distress and it's still considered "self"-defense) and were let go.

 

[Razorback0z]

On this scale you have PETA at one end and seal clubbers and whale shooters at the other end.

You do realize that both seals and whales have products that humans enjoy and use, right?

It's absolutely, positively, no different than hunting, raising cattle, or fishing.

Yup no arguments from me.

I guess Im talking from a public perception point of view. Your average person regards whale hunting and seal clubbing as the worst of the worst. So thats why I chose it.

I strongly agree that compartmentalised values are BS.

I regard the sea lice on the gills of the tuna as having as much right to live as the tuna and the dolphin in the net with it. So dont get me wrong.

 

[Yeager942]

PETA killed my father.

My name is KaZZap. You killed my father. Prepare to die!!

(How could I miss this opportunity?)

 

[Trendkill6]

It's the fact that they try to eradicate things you can't get rid of.
They're not going to convince everyone to be vegan and they're not going to rescue every abused from every owner who abuses it.

I do admire that they try to help with the issue but there's always going to be some drunk asshole who beats his dog.

And alot of the hate comes from hypocracy, like the bullshit they feed about loving evey animal no matter what.

Well what about the pitbulls?
http://www.nokillnow.com/PETAkillPitbulls.php
They support the mass euthanasia of Pitbulls.
I have a pitbull and find it very offensive, she is the sweetest dog I've ever owned and has never shown a sign of agression.
Yet were it up to peta I would not be able to have her.

 

[Doug]

I find it's not their intentions that annoy me it's how they go about with them that puts me off. They just have so much propaganda to try and force people to follow the same opinions as them, that's what really pushes them over the limit for me.

I'm sure most of their work you don't hear about. They have probably donated so much to funds and helping the wild-life. Only a lot of it is played up. Plus, I've also heard a lot of people complaining about them painting seals. I think that's great and want to help one day!

Figures please? Given your pretty keen to keep facts in this topic.

This is true, people often see/hear P.E.T.A and instantly say/type the first nasty insult they can. I like the idea P.E.T.A started out with but I think that the extent they take things is...well...necessary. I say this because people now need to be shocked to change what they do, people will no longer change based on what's right, the only thing that counts now is the bottom line. And that is sad. But I still do not align with P.E.T.A for I do not wish to take things so far. I have found that the best tool is logic and facts. These seem to upset people who are uninformed and after a while they tend to think things out and see the bigger picture. Well, let's watch and see the flame that will surely ensue, for you said "P.E.T.A". Good luck.

Haha, thanks man. Hopefully this will help shed a little light.

To be honest, its because every time PETA crop up on our news section, its for some crazy complaint about virtual animals who aren't even real, OR they are using our medium for attention whoring proganda:-

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/87494-Cooking-Mama-The-PETA-Version
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/88480-Fable-2-Is-PETAs-Game-of-the-Year
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/87613-PETA-Requests-Cooking-Mama-Vegetarian-Kitchen
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90757-PETA-Protests-Seal-Slaughter-in-World-of-Warcraft
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90391-PETA-Responds-to-World-at-War-Dog-Killing-Controversy

To me, it seems most gamers (including me) hate people who attention whore

 

[Charisma]

My shoulder angel says: They believe in a thing, so they fight for it. Good for them.

But my shoulder devil thinks they're all a bunch of mouthbreathing scare-mongering hypocritical etc etc etc

 

[The_Prophet]

I find it's not their intentions that annoy me it's how they go about with them that puts me off. They just have so much propaganda to try and force people to follow the same opinions as them, that's what really pushes them over the limit for me.

I'm sure most of their work you don't hear about. They have probably donated so much to funds and helping the wild-life. Only a lot of it is played up. Plus, I've also heard a lot of people complaining about them painting seals. I think that's great and want to help one day!

Figures please? Given your pretty keen to keep facts in this topic.

This is true, people often see/hear P.E.T.A and instantly say/type the first nasty insult they can. I like the idea P.E.T.A started out with but I think that the extent they take things is...well...necessary. I say this because people now need to be shocked to change what they do, people will no longer change based on what's right, the only thing that counts now is the bottom line. And that is sad. But I still do not align with P.E.T.A for I do not wish to take things so far. I have found that the best tool is logic and facts. These seem to upset people who are uninformed and after a while they tend to think things out and see the bigger picture. Well, let's watch and see the flame that will surely ensue, for you said "P.E.T.A". Good luck.

Haha, thanks man. Hopefully this will help shed a little light.

To be honest, its because every time PETA crop up on our news section, its for some crazy complaint about virtual animals who aren't even real, OR they are using our medium for attention whoring proganda:-

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/87494-Cooking-Mama-The-PETA-Version
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/88480-Fable-2-Is-PETAs-Game-of-the-Year
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/87613-PETA-Requests-Cooking-Mama-Vegetarian-Kitchen
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90757-PETA-Protests-Seal-Slaughter-in-World-of-Warcraft
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90391-PETA-Responds-to-World-at-War-Dog-Killing-Controversy

To me, it seems most gamers (including me) hate people who attention whore

And that's why I dislike (decided that hate is a too heavy word) them, instead of helping real animals they help pixels, ones and zeros and cry for publicity.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

Because they're fascist? No, really. They want to impose their beliefs and values on people who want nothing to do with them. That. Is. Fascism. Whether you agree or disagree with what they say, you can't deny the attention-whoring, obnoxious ways they present their case. Cooking Mama, anyone? Also, they can't even follow their own beliefs, as the various links people have provided here have helped prove. In addition to that, many of them act like their decision to "help" animals makes them somehow better and above other people.

They're like those vegetarian environmentalists you know that preach about saving the earth, but drive a giant SUV, live in a huge house and fill said home with as much materialistic crap as possible.

And yeah, I'm generalizing. So if you support PETA and you're cool with everyone else doing their thing, just assume I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the folks that give you a bad name.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

It's the fact that they try to eradicate things you can't get rid of.
They're not going to convince everyone to be vegan and they're not going to rescue every abused from every owner who abuses it.

I do admire that they try to help with the issue but there's always going to be some drunk asshole who beats his dog.

And alot of the hate comes from hypocracy, like the bullshit they feed about loving evey animal no matter what.

Well what about the pitbulls?
http://www.nokillnow.com/PETAkillPitbulls.php
They support the mass euthanasia of Pitbulls.
I have a pitbull and find it very offensive, she is the sweetest dog I've ever owned and has never shown a sign of agression.
Yet were it up to peta I would not be able to have her.

Yeah, not cool to kill existing pitbulls. Still, it's a breed that was bred for dog fighting, and they have that whole "refuse to let go of someone's arm after biting" thing. And they're resistant to pain. VERY resistant. So I don't support killing them outright, but I'm against breeding any more. Most people that own them seem to own them in cities, and that's not a good place for them.

As somebody who lives in a neighborhood where freaking EVERYONE has a pitbull, I can tell you they're not a dog you want to have angry at you. And sometimes the neighbor (me) knows better than the dog's owner how the dog REALLY behaves when nobody's around.

 

[manaman]

I did not really have time to read the all of the posts. I did skim over most of them and have not seen these points brought up so I will.

PETA does not tell the truth in there advertisements and have on many occasions been discovered lying about stats.

They must hid their involvement with radical terrorist groups well, they have been known to funnel money to the members of these groups. Tax records show large salaries paid to members of ALF. None of them worked a day there. Well unless you count going to meetings and occasionally being a speaker at PETA rallies. ALF by the way blows up buildings and has a couple of ex members in jail for manslaughter on a botched operation. Many others are hiding outside the US.

I don't know if you got a response about what you termed illegal euthinizations, so I will say they where not illegal. PETA took in animals that their owners would give them, mostly because they could no longer care for them. These people trusted an organization like PETA to find homes and care for their pets, something they could not trust an animal shelter or pound to do. PETA hid for years that is euthanized a sizable amount of the animals it took in. At times the rates of animals euthanized compared to animals take in was higher then any animal shelters. They only euthanize animals after a set amount of time, and only if they cannot find a home. Most animal shelter workers seem to care more about animals (realistically) then the fanatical, and obsessive members of PETA. They seem more concerned with limiting human activities then actual projects to help animals.

I had many run ins with PETA there was a rather large number of members, or supporters or what not in Salt Lake City. They would set up booths at shows from time to time. I remember seeing Social Distortion and they had set up their booth as the last next to the bar. While waiting for a drink I struck up a conversation. Until I started to bring up facts counter to the ones printed on their leaflets. Many of you maybe familiar with the video they try to show everywhere they can. The video is supposed to be an "in depth investigation by PETA" Well I can tell you most of the footage existed long before this investigation was supposed to have occurred. Most of the footage actually comes from operations that where suspended or shut down for violating the law. I know this because years ago these people showed me a video that had most of the footage on it. The video was supposed to shock me into never eating meat again. Problem is I had seen it before, I knew the truth about the footage, I have also seen large farms as my step fathers family owns some very large farms in Minnesota. I can tell you the conditions depicted in the videos by PETA are the exception, so much so that after nearly a decade they still cannot come up with more shock footage. The PETA members where less then thrilled with me. I probably should not have asked the bartender if they could whip me up a hamburger really quick so I could eat it in front of these people.

Sorry but PETA seems to be populated by crazy fanatical people who are not above lying and cheating to try and get their way. They also seem to have a do as we say not as we do hypocritical attitude that drives me crazy. The people at the bar I was telling you about. They where willing to allow me to talk, that in itself shows that not all members are as insane as some of the more radical make them seem. Still those people where not willing to listen to reason. And reason I did. I tried to tell them about my stance, how I would never advocate cruelty, but I hardly see most operations as cruelty. I also see no problem with harvesting animals to eat. I mean we are not talking about sentient creatures here. There is no reason to cause them undue harm, but really... Nobody claims plants have feelings and we shouldn't eat them.

 

[Hookman]

Did you not see the catastrophe that was The Sea Kitten Debacle! Not only are Peta ignorant they have been killing pets that were supposed to be looked after for years!
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

They are amazingly idiotic. They claimed milk causes autism...Milk?...Autism! Thats not to mention all their ridiculous campaigns over the years!

 

[TheSunshineHobo]

PETA are Anti-Human. That is why I hate PETA. I also hate Greenpeace, but thats because I'm Newfie. PETA members vandalize private and public properties, they harass people and attack them for their views. They've even beewn known to resort to violence to get their message across. I'm all for animal rights, but I also like NOT getting cancer from shampoo and if that means monkeys have to die, so be it.

 

[Acaroid]

Did you not see the catastrophe that was The Sea Kitten Debacle! Not only are Peta ignorant they have been killing pets that were supposed to be looked after for years!
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

They are amazingly idiotic. They claimed milk causes autism...Milk?...Autism! Thats not to mention all their ridiculous campaigns over the years!

I was curious about the milk thing when i read what you said, so I found a proper non-sided source about that, it basically says that some research has found that there might be a connection, but it hasnt been 100% proved yet. So it isnt something they have just come out and said for the hell of it, it does have some fact base.

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/stories/s726052.htm

Im very anti-milk and I think that milk should be taken out of any text as a needed food group, but only should be an optional one (cause it really is 100% optional, other than human milk for a baby of course)

but I can tell you (im copying out of a nutritional alminac I have)

The often sited Harvard Nurse?s Health Study that followed approximately 75,000 women for 18 years found that increased consumption of milk in study participants did not reduce the risk of fractures (in regards to Osteoporosis)

some researchers have hypothesized that ovarian cancer is linked to increased milk consumption. Case-control studies have reported conflicting results regarding the link between ovarian cancer and diets rich in dairy food. Several small cohort studies, however, have shown an association between ovarian cancer and diets containing skim milk and lactose.

there is a proposed link between milk and the development of type I diabetes. Milk contains a protein that is believed to cause an autoimmune reaction that destroys the insulin producing beta cells of the pancreas. It is argued that the combination of a genetic predisposition and cow?s milk exposure is a major cause of type I diabetes.

 

[Sparrow]

*snip*

Take a gander at the probation I was given. To be honest, I was harsh, but everyone else was really miffing me off. They all believed they had to be right, and nothing would stop them believing so. I told em' the same, and they basically told me to shove it. Hence, I WENT HULK.

Naw, I was a bit out of line. However, all these people believe they right no matter what the argument. This comes from a highly anti-religious site?

 

[die4769]

PETA would be more respected if they helped animals in need instead of bitching whenever you kill a dog in COD, or using adult cow milk.

 

[Warwolt]

Did you not see the catastrophe that was The Sea Kitten Debacle! Not only are Peta ignorant they have been killing pets that were supposed to be looked after for years!
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

They are amazingly idiotic. They claimed milk causes autism...Milk?...Autism! Thats not to mention all their ridiculous campaigns over the years!

Im very anti-milk and I think that milk should be taken out of any text as a needed food group, but only should be an optional one (cause it really is 100% optional, other than human milk for a baby of course)

Oh thats strange, you see, the whole country of sweden drinks milk regulary. We don't seem to have a problem with those kind of stuff. Milk, quite contrary to what people seem to believe, is actually pretty fucking healthful and contains loads of necessary vitamins and similair.

 

[sms_117b]

I just disagree with PETA on a few key points. Namely I honestly believe animals shouldn't be treated as well as humans.

They're extremist behaviour just angers me, especially the "you shouldn't eat meat" attitude, not that they think that, it's fine to think that, (I do think they're wrong still), but they push it on people, I joke about a few things with vegetarians, but never push meat eating, because they don't want to.

Now to address some points directly that the OP and others mentioned in their posts, bear in mind, I am genuinely a horrible person, but hide it well:
> Factory/Battery farming, not fussed.
> Fur farming, not fussed.
> Fur wearing, perfectly fine, same with leather and wool.
> Animal testing, a vital stage before testing pharmaceuticals on humans, make up however, seems rather pointless to test, medicine and vaccines, I am fine with animals being tested on first.
> Animals in entertainment, mostly not fussed, a animal hurt during filming won't stop me watching it.
> Dogs chained up in the backyard, fine with me.
> Animal fighting, although I am against it, I am still curious to watch it, maybe once.
> Hunting for sport, this is a huge tradition, I am all for it, OK, maybe it should be done less frequently, like once every 6 months.
> Eating Veal, fine, in fact I used to love eating Veal, I'll be damned if I can find somewhere to buy it.

Basically, I do not care how animals are treated, humans are the superior species on this planet, we should be able to do as we please to the rest of the food chain.

 

[101194]

I'm not going to side with PETA, I understand how hard it is too see something thats wrong with the world and no one seaming to give a shit and critize you for saying that it isn't all peachy clean, But the fact is, Its impossible to continue your life without takeing the life of somthing, Plants are alive, They can adapt and produce young just like animals can. Even if you don't agree, Your house was once a spot for animal habitat. You stole there home and they probably died, The fact is that we are Omivores{b/] And as such we eat both plants and animals to have good health.