So how would you have made Dantes Inferno then?

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eels05

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PurpleRain said:
eels05 said:
I'd debate that there's no care and attention in this game.
I think its just a case of where if you weigh the game against the original material its going to come off looking like its shallow.
But thats why its been ,openly,loosley based on the source material.Loosley based.You really just cant attempt to write any more into it than that because it'll always come up short if you do.
The designers have also openly admitted to paying homage to GOW.Openly admitted,hence the rip-off tag dosen't really apply.It's a homage to a style of a great game series.
I say give it a chance.
It is shallow. Where's the depth? Give me one example?

Also, loosely based? No it isn't. The game has the same titles, areas and- Hmm, I was going to say characters but I don't think there is any in hell that were in the books. EA seemed to have made up their own.
Well I cant because I haven't played it yet,have you?

Though I guess even though they've taken liberties by making Dante a warrior,by making a game with the same layout of Hell as mapped by Dante,you may as well go all in and call it by the same name.You cant really call it anything else.Why because if you did every and all literature snobs would accuse it of being a Dantes Inferno rip-off.Sort of damned if you do damned if you dont.
I'm sort of understanding where all this 'desecration of literature' is coming from,but not really agreeing with it.All those critics taking that position are coming across as just a bit to precious.The divine Comedy will still be the Divine Comedy.It wont cease to be just because a video games been made that uses its name and location and basic plot.
 

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I wouldn't. The very idea of Dante's Inferno as a game is a horrible idea. They completely bastardize the original poem with the very existence of this game.
This post is full of truth.
 

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Been reading alot of hate for this game.Most of it based on 'its a GOW rippoff'.

So heres your chance to explain how you would have interpreted a 700yr old poem into a game that would actually sell enough units to justify its production costs.

Go.
Hmmm... well if I was to interpret a 7 century old poem into a game I w-

Oh wait, this is a trick question, because I wouldn't do that. That's a terrible idea, especially if it's Dante's Inferno.


In any case, I wouldn't spend more time coming up with creative ways to advertise the game than I would finding creative things to put IN the game.
 

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JimmyBassatti said:
eels05 said:
L1250 said:
eels05 said:
Been reading alot of hate for this game.Most of it based on 'its a GOW rippoff'.

So heres your chance to explain how you would have interpreted a 700yr old poem into a game that would actually sell enough units to justify its production costs.

Go.
How about making it not an action game? If anything, it should be an adventure game. Or better yet, a 700-year-old poem.
So you'd make an adventure game with zero action element for fear of seeming derivative?
Or just because adding any amout of action in this context is pissing on Aligheri's grave?
How can you have adventure without action anyway?
Read the poem. There was no action. It was just walking and talking. That poem is good. Why change what isn't good to make the demographic like the game? Why not make it like Monkey Island, where it is just a point and click adventure game?
I guess the simple answer is to make money.
I mean these people are creative,they have artistic talent and all that,but there is the money aspect to take into account.If this same team had been given unlimited funds,and years to make the same game I'm sure it would be a different product.But this is what they came up with.
The poem is the poem and will always be.
The game should be judged on its own merits.
 

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Ghonzor said:
Aby_Z said:
I wouldn't. The very idea of Dante's Inferno as a game is a horrible idea. They completely bastardize the original poem with the very existence of this game.
This post is full of truth.
This post is full of opinion.
 

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How the hell does anyone know how the full game will actually be just from the small demo there was?
 

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Well I cant because I haven't played it yet,have you?

Though I guess even though they've taken liberties by making Dante a warrior,by making a game with the same layout of Hell as mapped by Dante,you may as well go all in and call it by the same name.You cant really call it anything else.Why because if you did every and all literature snobs would accuse it of being a Dantes Inferno rip-off.Sort of damned if you do damned if you dont.
I'm sort of understanding where all this 'desecration of literature' is coming from,but not really agreeing with it.All those critics taking that position are coming across as just a bit to precious.The divine Comedy will still be the Divine Comedy.It wont cease to be just because a video games been made that uses its name and location and basic plot.
Well, no, but I have watched many walkthrough and 'Quicklooks' by the lads at Giantbomb.

I would actually respect the game if it 'ripped-off' The Divine Comedy without calling it the Divine Comedy or have the same characters. That would be a homage to it more likely. No one has ever gotten angry at that. Read any Neil Gaiman (sp?) pieces. He does it all the time. Dante's version of hell, heaven and the bits in between have just become common knowledge for what it is. Asides, a lot of it isn't his make. A lot of it is Greek mythology. No one got angry at him for doing that. It isn't a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario, it's a respectful and immature bash up of something well known.

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1. Dante is no longer around to defend his (Author intent overides all others) point of view.
2. While there may be no "right" answer, there are plenty of wrong ones. For instance, nobody with any sort of reading comprehension could read "Charge of the Light Birgade" and come away with an interpretation about the energy output of an Executor-class Super Star Destroyer.
3. the Divine Comedy is finished. It is a complete work. Any later additions are basically tumors on a great work.
1. So are a lot of writers, poets, etc. Doesn't matter. Take the bible for example. We still interpret that even though nobody can truly defend it as nobody in recent age has really been an author in it. Dante's Inferno is no different.

2. Sure you could. If I showed the internet to some African tribe they can all of a sudden think that the screen is a predator and attack it for now reason. There's no reason not to think a star destroyer is in the story of Dante's Inferno. Even though it is a bit odd it certainly cannot be wrong.

3. That's no different from say, the Catholics writing the new testament in the bible.

And no, I'm not religious, no other book I can really show as a prime example.
Umm, I feel that Unskilled78 made very good points here and is still right with his argument.
 

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eels05 said:
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eels05 said:
I say give it a chance.
Why not instead give that chance that to something that isn't poorly conceived and being hyped to hell and back by every video game website. Unless you want something that was never intended to be more than a second rate God of War clone with an exploitative theme. In that case, go ahead. Knock yourself out.
Well as I say,we'll just have to wait until release before trashing it as garbage.
I'm not trashing it, just saying why I have zero interest in buying it. It makes not difference to me if it is released or not. That's harsh but so many games come out that takes so much time to play that I have to learn to filter out games like this, more so because they get expensive adverts and people starting threads on forums, for some reason, saying that we should all give it a chance.
 

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Apparently I'm one of the few people here who've actually been looking forward to this game. I've read the poem a few years back, and it was obvious they couldn't turn it into a game the way it was. Personally, I'm excited about exploring the 9 circles of hell and see how the creative teams decided to depict them... and as for the game being a God of War rip-off, let me just say that there are MUCH worse genetic templates to work with when cloning a game.

And on that note... the mailman was just here and dropped off my copy of the game.
PLAYSTATION 3; AWAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!
 

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More Fun To Compute said:
eels05 said:
More Fun To Compute said:
eels05 said:
I say give it a chance.
Why not instead give that chance that to something that isn't poorly conceived and being hyped to hell and back by every video game website. Unless you want something that was never intended to be more than a second rate God of War clone with an exploitative theme. In that case, go ahead. Knock yourself out.
Well as I say,we'll just have to wait until release before trashing it as garbage.
I'm not trashing it, just saying why I have zero interest in buying it. It makes not difference to me if it is released or not. That's harsh but so many games come out that takes so much time to play that I have to learn to filter out games like this, more so because they get expensive adverts and people starting threads on forums, for some reason, saying that we should all give it a chance.
Or conversly they start threads on forums stating why they hate the as yet unreleased game any will not under any curcumstances be playing it.

Just as a side note I picked up my copy today and have battled my way to the end of purgatory.All I can say is its getting better the further in you go and damn challenging even on a moderate setting.
 

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I would have changed the source material to something that fits an action hack-n-slash video game... nuff said.
 

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Or conversly they start threads on forums stating why they hate the as yet unreleased game any will not under any curcumstances be playing it.
I don't why you are trying to imply that I hate the game or am on some hate thread starting campaign. I don't have any strong feelings about the game other than it being an interesting case of EA spending a lot of money on something questionable. I have made short replies in something like 3 comment threads about the game.

Enjoy your game.
 

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I think they have it covered:

Violence: check.

Lust: check.

Giant Cleopatra that shoots dead babies out of her nipples: check.

What more could you want?
 

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I would've kept the art style and such, because I think it looks really cool and gruesome, but if given the concept, I would probably make it sort of an intense like, first person brawler. Sort of the same kind of thing, but from a first person perspective. It might work. never been done before so Iunno. Honestly I think GoW ripoff works fine, even though it's a bit unoriginal.
 

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Well I cant because I haven't played it yet,have you?

Though I guess even though they've taken liberties by making Dante a warrior,by making a game with the same layout of Hell as mapped by Dante,you may as well go all in and call it by the same name.You cant really call it anything else.Why because if you did every and all literature snobs would accuse it of being a Dantes Inferno rip-off.Sort of damned if you do damned if you dont.
I'm sort of understanding where all this 'desecration of literature' is coming from,but not really agreeing with it.All those critics taking that position are coming across as just a bit to precious.The divine Comedy will still be the Divine Comedy.It wont cease to be just because a video games been made that uses its name and location and basic plot.
Well, no, but I have watched many walkthrough and 'Quicklooks' by the lads at Giantbomb.

I would actually respect the game if it 'ripped-off' The Divine Comedy without calling it the Divine Comedy or have the same characters. That would be a homage to it more likely. No one has ever gotten angry at that. Read any Neil Gaiman (sp?) pieces. He does it all the time. Dante's version of hell, heaven and the bits in between have just become common knowledge for what it is. Asides, a lot of it isn't his make. A lot of it is Greek mythology. No one got angry at him for doing that. It isn't a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario, it's a respectful and immature bash up of something well known.
Well I'm playing it now and if your only problem with it is some outrage over percieved rape of literature then your missing out.Its not coming across as tacky or tasteless,but then again my sense of whats crossing the line might not be as fine tuned as yours.And to be honest you'll find nothing here to interest you if you've got a Playstation and GOW.
Yes there's breasts,assuming your not a total prude,nothing so far thats felt like tits for tits sake.Eveythings felt within context so far.Though I haven't made it to lust so I'll reserve judgement till I have.To bad everyone else can't as well.
The pacing is fast,and the back story fills you in just enough to give you Dantes motivation for proceeding which to be honest I'm so far not connecting with,but as i say I'm willing to reserve judgement the further I progress.Also I had my Girlfriend in my ear talking about other thing so haven't been able to give it my full attention.
First impressions is its meant to be played as an action game,as an amazing spectacle.We all knew that already though.
 

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It's such an odd phenomenon. Name a game after a ancient literary masterpiece, what does it accomplish?
The story bears no resemblance. You anger those who are fans of the poem. The target audience has no vested interest in its namesake, so it's hardly going to reel them in.

The only reason I can see is that the developers could not think of a name and so stole one that is not copyright protected.
 

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eels05 said:
Been reading alot of hate for this game.Most of it based on 'its a GOW rippoff'.

So heres your chance to explain how you would have interpreted a 700yr old poem into a game that would actually sell enough units to justify its production costs.

Go.
God of War in itself is a ripoff, not to mention all 3 games (and I'm sure number III will be no exception) are almost fucking identical. I'm sick of all the hype surrounding such a mediocre game franchise. I could pull a better plot for a game out of my arse than the dribble presented in that franchise. I don't mind Dante's inferno storywise. Ok it has nothing to do with the poem, but really why did they try making a game out of a poem in the first place? The battle system is really the only similarity to God of War. I mean, he has Death's Scythe.