So I ask you, Escapists.... What is the Truth?

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Barakiel

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McCa said:
Who judges how subjective something is if not your self? Truth is reality; but we as humans cannot understand reality without omniscience. And due to the fact we cannot achieve as such the most scientific backed is truth. Other will see "gods word" as truth, which in of it's self is subjective as such offers varying degrees of reality and thus unreliable to me.
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Seeing as it is nearly three in the morning, I'm going to potter off to bed soon.
But this discussion has raised many interesting points, and most people (a subjective opinion) seem to agree (again subjective opinion) that the Truth (in a 'pure' form) as was my question seems to be... well... a subjective opinion.

Slash Dementia said:
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted."
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Even though it's from Assassin's Creed, I couldn't have said it better myself.

Goodnight!
 
AxelMiller

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I belive that "the truth" is something we cannot even think of. And thus not being able to conversate about "the truth" itself.

The truth must be null.
 
Baby Tea

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Barakiel said:
But this discussion has raised many interesting points, and most people (a subjective opinion) seem to agree (again subjective opinion) that the Truth (in a 'pure' form) as was my question seems to be... well... a subjective opinion.
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Isn't saying 'Truth is subjective' an objective statement of truth?
That seems rather self-contradictory.
 
MGlBlaze

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If you ask me: there is truth, lies, mistake, and opinion.

Truth - when a given situation has an absolute answer; and the truth is said answer.

Lies - when a person deliberately misrepresents things when they know it isn't true.

Mistake - a prerson believes or says what isn't true, but believes what they say is true.

Opinion is when there is a situation that doesn't have an absolute answer and it's up to each individual to decide the answer for themselves.

That's my stance on it, anyway.
 
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I don't if I can avoid it, I usually just go with yelling at people until they do what I say. Or sometimes logically debating with them until they do what I say, or ignoring them because they won't do what I say.

Basically there's what I say, and there's everything else, in the absence of any absolute source of truth I figure that's as good a rule as any to go by.
 
Roamin11

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Ah, see I think you have fallen into Decartes little rut, you have figured out that there could be no truth in the world, we could all be being decived, or that you are being decived and this is all just a dream.
 
Yopaz

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2+2=4 Nothing can be more true than that, though several things can be just as true. Things you can measure and prove with a scientific research method is true. That means it has to be possible to show it to anyone at any time anywhere. With global warming, we can measure the gasses in the atmosphere and use the ice around the North Pole to compare with the past and see how the amount increases.
A Norwegian scientist who was an expert at health came up with the idea that vitamin C was good for the immune system. That idea was accepted by most of the world and still a lot think that is true, because he was an expert in that area, a good talker and proved it by living a long life people believed it. Later they found out with clinical tests that this wasn't correct.
The difference here between global warming and Vitamin c is that we can prove one of them no matter where we go. There is a layer with some gasses that works like a greenhouse around earth, and we know which gasses and the worst one is H2O.
 
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The truth is somthing that is always subjective, I mean thousands of years ago we "KNEW" that we were in the center of the universe, it felt undenied and yet it was disproven.

Not that truth dousent exist it just needs to be subjective to change or we remain ignorant.
 
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ars731 said:
Blaine is a pain.. that is the truth
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The gunslinger is the truth.

Roland is the truth.

The Prisoner is the truth.

The Lady of Shadows is the truth.

The Prisoner and the Lady are married. That is the truth.

The way station is the truth.

The Speaking Demon is the truth.

We went under the mountains and that is the truth.

There were monsters under the mountain. That is the truth.

One of them had an Amoco gas pump between his legs and pretending it was his penis. That is the truth.

Roland let me die. That is the truth.

I still love him.

That is the truth.

When is a door not a door? When it's a jar, and that is the truth.

Blaine is the truth.

Blaine is the truth.

What has four wheels and flies? A garbage truck, and that is the truth.

Blaine is the truth.

You have to watch Blaine all the time, Blaine is a pain, and that is the truth.

I'm pretty sure that Blaine is dangerous, and that is the truth.

What is black and white and red all over? A blushing zebra, and that is the truth.

I can't go home again unless I find a stone a rose a door and that is the truth.

Choo-choo, and that is the truth.

Choo-choo. Choo-choo.

Choo-choo. Choo-choo. Choo-choo.

Choo-choo. Choo-choo. Choo-choo. Choo-choo.

I am afraid. That is the truth.

Choo-choo.
 
duchaked

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"Nothing is true, everything is permitted"

Actually that part of ACII really just annoyed me more than anything.
I much prefer the "There is no spoon" nonsense haha

but no, the absolute truth will come out in the end
then all arguments will be ended
 
El Poncho

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SikOseph said:
If a>b and b>c, a>c is true.
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But if Rock>Scissiors and Scissors> Paper then does Rock> Paper

(In gamewise not the real logic that rock would rip a hole in the mofo)
 
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