So I Did A Little Research On Black Ops...

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Dimensional Vortex

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Ironic Pirate said:
Dimensional Vortex said:
Call of Duty is mostly composed of idiots how will sit on the couch with drool lazily drizzling out their mouth, so the developers will do anything to make some money by adding in content that these people like. Seriously I think that if they didn't add in certain guns, the guns that were left would be crappy and boring and would have little killing power compared to more modern guns.
*twitch*

Funny, I always thought the rule was "If JFK, Nixon, and Castro are fighting off zombies in the Pentagon, historical accuracy comes second to fun and it shouldn't be judged on lack of said accuracy". Did the game ever claim to be accurate? No? Therefore, is it entirely possible that the game in which you slaughter thousands of enemy soldiers in pursuit of a fictional nerve gas took some liberties with history? Or possibly is even set in an alternate universe! Oh fuck no, it was somehow assumed despite all prior indications that this game would be the equivalent of a documentary and I was going to use it to study for my test on the Vietnam war, which I failed because I relied on a game where I break thousands of Russians out of a fictional prison with a shank.

Noble Cookie said:
And the thing is, these idiots will probably defend the appearance of those guns. Purely because the bullshit that runs through their minds goes a bit like this...

"OMGFUCK U LUL COD IS RITE AND U RONG NERDRAGEGEGEG"

Because CoD is the only game worth playing, apparentley.
Did CoD kill your family or something? Are the both of you really calling people drooling morons because they bought a popular video-game they can enjoy with their friends?

Someone's enjoyment of a product you dislike does not make them your mortal enemy, nor does it make them a moron. The game has sold seven million copies and I doubt every one of them went to a drooling moron.
Ever been on Call of Duty? seriously, majority of the people on call of duty are like what Noble Cookie described, 10 times in under an hour you will find someone swearing because he got killed, or because he hates shotguns, or because he was sniped, or because he sucks and he thinks people are hackers.

Secondly it is better to have historical accuracy and have fun in a game, after all we do buy games for fun and entertainment. If they go and make an inaccurate shooting game why does it have to be related to something that has already happened? why not just create something entirely different.

Lastly, people might go and buy Call of Duty to play with their friends but when they go online and start being dicks to people by calling them all kinds of vulgar things because they are pissed off, it stops being fun and it starts being a composite of swearing, yelling, gun shots and explosions which no one seriously needs to hear. If you haven't seen someone basically addicted to Call of Duty like I have, and who is what Noble Cookie and I have described, and who has a family, then maybe you shouldn't be saying that they're just normal and respectable people because a lot of them aren't, a lot of them are addicts and do sit on their couches all day playing call of duty screaming into a head set.
 

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I really don't care, as long as the game is fun, who cares about historical accuracy? At least they kept within a general time period, even if it's different from the campaign. Always something...
 

Mr.Gompers

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As a gun nut the thing that bothers me the most is the fact that the makarov has more stopping power than the colt 1911.
 

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spartan231490 said:
Taxman1 said:
Meh, Call of Duty was never really about historical accuracy. Doesn't bother me all that much.
Pretty much this. I play games because they are, and I can't stress this enough, F U N. I don't care about accuracy, historical or otherwise. If I wanted a realistic, accurate shooter, I would join the marines. Black ops is fun, therefore I play it, and enjoy it.
Same, this is like serious OCD-level of gun-nut obsession that NO ONE ELSE will care about.

Its a fun game, dealwithit.jpeg
 

Woodsey

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The excuse is that your special forces so you get the gear early. But if you're going to give people stuff from almost 30 years later anyway then why bother with that era?
 

Owlslayer

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I didn't knew this, and i don't really want to know this.
I'm not a gun-nut. I don't really know anything about guns except that most of them go "bang!".
Historical accuracy isn't that important for me, at least not in cod.
 

Ironic Pirate

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Dimensional Vortex said:
Ironic Pirate said:
Dimensional Vortex said:
Call of Duty is mostly composed of idiots how will sit on the couch with drool lazily drizzling out their mouth, so the developers will do anything to make some money by adding in content that these people like. Seriously I think that if they didn't add in certain guns, the guns that were left would be crappy and boring and would have little killing power compared to more modern guns.
*twitch*

Funny, I always thought the rule was "If JFK, Nixon, and Castro are fighting off zombies in the Pentagon, historical accuracy comes second to fun and it shouldn't be judged on lack of said accuracy". Did the game ever claim to be accurate? No? Therefore, is it entirely possible that the game in which you slaughter thousands of enemy soldiers in pursuit of a fictional nerve gas took some liberties with history? Or possibly is even set in an alternate universe! Oh fuck no, it was somehow assumed despite all prior indications that this game would be the equivalent of a documentary and I was going to use it to study for my test on the Vietnam war, which I failed because I relied on a game where I break thousands of Russians out of a fictional prison with a shank.

Noble Cookie said:
And the thing is, these idiots will probably defend the appearance of those guns. Purely because the bullshit that runs through their minds goes a bit like this...

"OMGFUCK U LUL COD IS RITE AND U RONG NERDRAGEGEGEG"

Because CoD is the only game worth playing, apparentley.
Did CoD kill your family or something? Are the both of you really calling people drooling morons because they bought a popular video-game they can enjoy with their friends?

Someone's enjoyment of a product you dislike does not make them your mortal enemy, nor does it make them a moron. The game has sold seven million copies and I doubt every one of them went to a drooling moron.
Ever been on Call of Duty? seriously, majority of the people on call of duty are like what Noble Cookie described, 10 times in under an hour you will find someone swearing because he got killed, or because he hates shotguns, or because he was sniped, or because he sucks and he thinks people are hackers.

Secondly it is better to have historical accuracy and have fun in a game, after all we do buy games for fun and entertainment. If they go and make an inaccurate shooting game why does it have to be related to something that has already happened? why not just create something entirely different.

Lastly, people might go and buy Call of Duty to play with their friends but when they go online and start being dicks to people by calling them all kinds of vulgar things because they are pissed off, it stops being fun and it starts being a composite of swearing, yelling, gun shots and explosions which no one seriously needs to hear. If you haven't seen someone basically addicted to Call of Duty like I have, and who is what Noble Cookie and I have described, and who has a family, then maybe you shouldn't be saying that they're just normal and respectable people because a lot of them aren't, a lot of them are addicts and do sit on their couches all day playing call of duty screaming into a head set.
That's the same with every game. Just mute them, it's not very difficult.

The game is loosely based on historical events. They said that, it's like alternate history. I'm not really sure what you mean in your second paragraph, could you care to re-explain it?

Again, they are the minority, and you can mute them. You only have to hear them for the second it takes you to reach for the mute button. If you judged every group by the worst examples you'd have a very negative world view.
 

The Wykydtron

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JourneyThroughHell said:
Well, sure. CoD has always been totally about realism and it has been stated multiple times that the event the game depicts ACTUALLY HAPPENED and it takes place in the REAL WORLD.

Uh-huh.

If that's something you can lose all respect for someone over... that's pretty petty.

Noble Cookie said:
And the thing is, these idiots will probably defend the appearance of those guns. Purely because the bullshit that runs through their minds goes a bit like this...

"OMGFUCK U LUL COD IS RITE AND U RONG NERDRAGEGEGEG"

Because CoD is the only game worth playing, apparentley.
Yes, apparently, everyone who enjoys Call Of Duty is an imbecile who can't take any critisism and plays only Call Of Duty.

No, that's not the thing. By writing this comment, you demote yourself to the level of the people you describe.

Good day, sir.
DAMN! NINJA'D! Goddammit Nappa
 

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soren7550 said:
Colt Commando (early 1970s)
Haven't actually played the game, just seen screenshots, but I assume you're talking about:
http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/42700/ss_e3ad24dd02143ffbbbf17467fde104b462c9120e.600x338.jpg?t=1290135353
Which is either a C8 (1982) or M4 (1990). The "Colt Commando" series of rifles did enter service around 1960, but they all had integrated carry handles, rather than RIS mounts.

Not that I want to say "your wrong", rather "you've mistakenly assumed they might have almost been right".

It's actually pretty depressing, give it a few more years and we'll be seeing Germans with Kalashnikovs in WW2 games =(
(Anyone who says "StG44" is going to be SHOT BY ZE SS!)
 

Denamic

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It's a game and the stuff that happened in it probably didn't happen in real-life either.
Just go with it, man.
 

YesConsiderably

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Black Ops agents would have had access to prototype weapons. I'm not a gun-nut, but Treyarch mentioned that a few times leading up to the game's release.

I don't doubt that the explanation wont cover all of the inaccuracies though.
 

YesConsiderably

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I can see where the people complaining about the lack of complete period accurate weaponry are coming from, especially considering that World at War was actually pretty good as far as historical accuracy is concerned... but it just a game and doesn't hamper the gameplay at all.

It's a fun thing to analyse and discuss, but it does nothing to tarnish what is an excellent game.
 

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I really doubt they cared at all when they made the game. I can understand getting a bit annoyed if you are a gun nut but to say you have lost all respect for Treyarch? It's a arcade shooter they never said anything about it being realistic. They probably said "Who gives a shit?" when they put the guns in.

I don't care what guns they give me for whatever reason because it's a game that I play to have fun with my friends in Multiplayer, if you really want realism and historically accurate guns then play ARMA2 or something.