So I Did A Little Research On Black Ops...

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Spectre4802

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mechanixis said:
Right. Okay. Some of the weapons were anachronistic. THAT'S what breaks your immersion.

Not the part where you ramp a motorcycle fifty feet through the air while firing a shotgun with one hand. Totally authentic, that.
Lets not forget that the model 1887 is not only an obvious reference to the Terminator movies but also deadly accurate, able to hit the rider/s of a speeding motorcycle.
 

TheEndlessSleep

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got to be honest with u mate, i couldn't be less bothered when the guns were made... just how well they shoot people :)
 

Snotnarok

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It's not about historical accuracy. Former IW and Activision had a deal for no Modern Warfare games and obviously Modern guns are what's popular so theyre not about to drop back to shitty guns. So they used what's popular, they used what sells.

Is it historically correct? No but does it sell? YES.
 

farmerboy219

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something the creators emphasized was that the black ops soldiers were often given prototype weapons, so its not completely ridiculous
 

Rottweiler

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It bothered me, too. I knew the rough entry date of most of those firearms, and it was nowhere near the time period of Black Ops.

Some people won't care, but for me and others who know about firearms, it breaks the immersion a lot.
 

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If you are that concerned with the guns being historically accurate, then you are playing CoD wrong.

The whole, "Spec Ops got the prototypes early" thing pretty much hand waves this problem away, and even if it is technically not a realistic explanation, it should be enough of an explanation for anyone. It may not add accuracy, but it adds verisimilitude.
 

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I like history a lot, and I think it would be wacky(and fun) if more modern tech was available in past conflicts. So this doesn't bother me. I haven't played the game yet, but assuming they aren't taking themselves too seriously then this isn't a huge deal.
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
Well, sure. CoD has always been totally about realism and it has been stated multiple times that the event the game depicts ACTUALLY HAPPENED and it takes place in the REAL WORLD.

Uh-huh.

If that's something you can lose all respect for someone over... that's pretty petty.

Noble Cookie said:
And the thing is, these idiots will probably defend the appearance of those guns. Purely because the bullshit that runs through their minds goes a bit like this...

"OMGFUCK U LUL COD IS RITE AND U RONG NERDRAGEGEGEG"

Because CoD is the only game worth playing, apparentley.
Yes, apparently, everyone who enjoys Call Of Duty is an imbecile who can't take any critisism and plays only Call Of Duty.

No, that's not the thing. By writing this comment, you demote yourself to the level of the people you describe.

Good day, sir.
Didn't say everyone. Most people i meet on CoD are raging CoD fanboys. Honestly i love it, but i cant stand most of the people who play it.
 

Sephychu

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This is a game in which the character you play is implied to have killed Kennedy, and killed hundreds of people in operations that probably never happened.

I doubt historical accuracy is their main concern.
 

TerranReaper

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>Nazi Zombies
>Implying that you killed Kennedy
>Your team going to kill Castro
>Your squad the equivalent of an army
>Implying CoD was realistic

I really don't think they were aiming for realism here. For the sake of variety, I don't think anyone really wants a constant M16 vs AK47 firefights.
 

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Yeah, I really don't play it for the historical accuracy, it's just a good bit of fun, I find.
JourneyThroughHell said:
Well, sure. CoD has always been totally about realism and it has been stated multiple times that the event the game depicts ACTUALLY HAPPENED and it takes place in the REAL WORLD.

Uh-huh.

If that's something you can lose all respect for someone over... that's pretty petty.

Noble Cookie said:
And the thing is, these idiots will probably defend the appearance of those guns. Purely because the bullshit that runs through their minds goes a bit like this...

"OMGFUCK U LUL COD IS RITE AND U RONG NERDRAGEGEGEG"

Because CoD is the only game worth playing, apparentley.
Yes, apparently, everyone who enjoys Call Of Duty is an imbecile who can't take any critisism and plays only Call Of Duty.

No, that's not the thing. By writing this comment, you demote yourself to the level of the people you describe.

Good day, sir.
I agree entirely. I also notice he spelled apparently wrong.
 

EightGaugeHippo

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They are Black Ops "obviously". They have access to weapons that where not publicly realeased or still in testing.
Same goes for the Spetznaz and the Russian weapons where the dates dont match.

A gun may go for 5, 10 or even 15 years before it is publicly allowed to be used or even seen by other nations.

Like the AK-47 for example. 6 or so years.
-Design began before the end of wwII in 1944.
-Military testing in 46
-Finalised and given to select soviet forces in 47. [sub](Before exersises, it had to be covered by a black leather case so any unortherised personel could not lay eyes upon the new weapon. Afer exersises all spent bullet cases must be collected as it used a non-standard cal. at the time.)[/sub]
-Accepted and adopted by Soviets in 49-50


Also to people complaining about games lack of realism should be conscripted to the army.
Treyarch brought a whole concept, never before seen in Call of Duty... FUN!!!
 

Merkavar

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maybe these black ops guys got the guns earlier. like they were top secret weapons and those dates were just when they wewre released to the public or ordinary armies.
 

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somacruz500 said:
I can have a link to the article that had that statement about Snake Eater?
It was an issue of EGM from 2003/4.

somacruz500 said:
Also, never compare Metal Gear Solid to Call of Duty, plus, when did Metal Gear Solid or Kojima claim there was "realism" in the Metal Gear Solid series?
There's an ever so slight grounding in reality. The plot of the series (especially in Snake Eater) tends to knit it's fictional narrative around actual events. Of course, any suggestion of seriousness flies out the window when you get the codec frequency to unlock your prison cell from a ghost.
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
Well, sure. CoD has always been totally about realism and it has been stated multiple times that the event the game depicts ACTUALLY HAPPENED and it takes place in the REAL WORLD.

Uh-huh.

If that's something you can lose all respect for someone over... that's pretty petty.

Noble Cookie said:
And the thing is, these idiots will probably defend the appearance of those guns. Purely because the bullshit that runs through their minds goes a bit like this...

"OMGFUCK U LUL COD IS RITE AND U RONG NERDRAGEGEGEG"

Because CoD is the only game worth playing, apparentley.
Yes, apparently, everyone who enjoys Call Of Duty is an imbecile who can't take any critisism and plays only Call Of Duty.

No, that's not the thing. By writing this comment, you demote yourself to the level of the people you describe.

Good day, sir.
This guy wins the thread. Case closed.
 

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Danish rage said:
Nitpicking and complaints is the internets number one pastime .

It´s getting old, real fast.

The complaints over BLOPS has went from unfounded gibberish to random grasping for straws.

OT. I guess they put the guns there for..hmm lats say, playability and fun.
This sums up my opinion. Also saying you've lost all respect for a developer because of a little historical accuracy is a bit of a overreaction.

If they hadn't added the extra weapons there wouldn't have been many weapons and the enemies in the Single player would be a bit more dull seeing as almost all of them would be using AKs.


JourneyThroughHell said:
Well, sure. CoD has always been totally about realism and it has been stated multiple times that the event the game depicts ACTUALLY HAPPENED and it takes place in the REAL WORLD.

Uh-huh.

If that's something you can lose all respect for someone over... that's pretty petty.

Noble Cookie said:
And the thing is, these idiots will probably defend the appearance of those guns. Purely because the bullshit that runs through their minds goes a bit like this...

"OMGFUCK U LUL COD IS RITE AND U RONG NERDRAGEGEGEG"

Because CoD is the only game worth playing, apparentley.
Yes, apparently, everyone who enjoys Call Of Duty is an imbecile who can't take any critisism and plays only Call Of Duty.

No, that's not the thing. By writing this comment, you demote yourself to the level of the people you describe.

Good day, sir.