So... I Just Became a Vegetarian

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TheDrunkNinja

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health-bar said:
you don't need to completely abolish meat from your diet to become healthy.
just eat more veggies. opt for the healthier choices at restaurants, or just don't eat out much.

hell, take a walk, ride a bike, join a sport. you aren't going to magically get healthy just by staying away from fatty foods. no matter what some smug professor says.

don't look at any videos and think of what you are eating is wrong. all the videos show extremes, and never an average or unbiased view.

and if you really want to give yourself a break, just make up a rule, like only one big meat meal a month or something.
I thought I made it clear that I found it more annoying than enlightening when my professors would break out the "Is meat bad?" discussions.

This is more or less an attempt to retrain my mind into preferring naturally grow fruits and vegetables as the core of a meal rather than something I might have when there's nothing else in the freezer. This ain't permanent. I'll be my omnivorous self when I feel I've attained a nutritious eating habit.
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
I have been a vegetarian for years. My best advice:

eat Morning Star. 100% vegetarian, tastes just like the real stuff.
Yes. Morning Star is for you, if you're a bit adventurous. My family eats it now, and my mother bought and ate it before we had any vegetarians. (Although, between you and me, the canned fake meats usually aren't very good. A vegan friend of our family's recommended "swiss stake." Not good.)

Your avatar is sad. I had to say it. It's adorable and sad. Okay? Back to the topic at hand.

To the OP: How much time do you have in your day for cooking? Shopping? Exploring for alternatives? Because if you don't start looking at interesting food ideas and mixing up your menu, you will soon become tired and go for the meat. I've been there. Although, if you don't have much time, lentils and rice is a good option, although it can be boring.

By the way, if you ever do decide to go back to the meat: For the sake of all that is good in this world, don't just start chowing down on a burger, or another intense meat. If you don't eat meat for six months, then you go and eat a freaking steak or giant lunchmeat sandwich...it will not be fun for you. Trust me. Maybe you have a stomach of iron, but most people don't. Chances are, you will feel sick to your stomach, disgusted, and generally not that great.
 

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Cheveyo said:
megaman24681012 said:
Wait, I'm confused now, is eating meat healthy for you?
Yes.
Most things people complain about being bad can be healthy for you as long as you don't over-indulge.
Alcohol, Chocolate, Meat, etc.

There are exceptions, as with everything else.
Is it weird that I couldn't eat an apple when my mum put me on Atkins?
 

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I just eat well balanced meals all the time, no need to cut anything out of my diet entirely.
 

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While I'm no vegetarian I do love some of their meals. I will say try to look for religions or cultures where they are vegetarians. The food is way better than this hippie faux meat crap. I really hate stuff that tries to be meat but isn't except veggie burgers mmm
 

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Let me just quote Maddox and say this, "For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three."

I remember all the fuckers way back in high school going vegetarian after they read The Jungle. They lasted all of a week.
 

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Marble Dragon said:
Yes. Morning Star is for you, if you're a bit adventurous. My family eats it now, and my mother bought and ate it before we had any vegetarians. (Although, between you and me, the canned fake meats usually aren't very good. A vegan friend of our family's recommended "swiss stake." Not good.)

Your avatar is sad. I had to say it. It's adorable and sad. Okay? Back to the topic at hand.

To the OP: How much time do you have in your day for cooking? Shopping? Exploring for alternatives? Because if you don't start looking at interesting food ideas and mixing up your menu, you will soon become tired and go for the meat. I've been there. Although, if you don't have much time, lentils and rice is a good option, although it can be boring.

By the way, if you ever do decide to go back to the meat: For the sake of all that is good in this world, don't just start chowing down on a burger, or another intense meat. If you don't eat meat for six months, then you go and eat a freaking steak or giant lunchmeat sandwich...it will not be fun for you. Trust me. Maybe you have a stomach of iron, but most people don't. Chances are, you will feel sick to your stomach, disgusted, and generally not that great.
At present, I have more time on my hands than usual. With summer fast approaching, I will be able to move more freely when it comes to cooking. It's one of the reasons I chose to start now.

Also, duly noted. I was told that as well, so I'm well prepared when I start eating meat again.
 

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matrix3509 said:
Let me just quote Maddox and say this, "For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three."

I remember all the fuckers way back in high school going vegetarian after they read The Jungle. They lasted all of a week.
Maddox quote FTW!

Also that book made me hungry.
 

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matrix3509 said:
Let me just quote Maddox and say this, "For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three."

I remember all the fuckers way back in high school going vegetarian after they read The Jungle. They lasted all of a week.
I'm well aware of that book, though since I heard it takes place in the fucking early 1900s (or around there) it's completely useless, as well as opposite to what my true reason for becoming a vegetarian.
 

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TheDrunkNinja said:
matrix3509 said:
Let me just quote Maddox and say this, "For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three."

I remember all the fuckers way back in high school going vegetarian after they read The Jungle. They lasted all of a week.
I'm well aware of that book, though since I heard it takes place in the fucking early 1900s (or around there) it's completely useless, as well as opposite to what my true reason for becoming a vegetarian.
It's worth reading for historical context. Sinclair wrote The Jungle to sway people to the socialist cause; instead, the two pages he included about meatpacking spawned the FDA.
 

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Human crave meat and fat naturally for a reason you know, an evolutionary one. If you didn't notice herbivores are usually in the bottle of food chains. Good advice for being a vegetarian is stop being one, at least not for the wrong reasons. Just exercise regularly and you can eat whatever you want.

Plus the pain and suffering to animals makes meat taste better. /s

tscook said:
Though, the first step to getting healthier is cutting out soda. Full stop.

A sweet problem: Princeton researchers find that high-fructose corn syrup prompts considerably more weight gain[link] [http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/]
Or you can just stick with Mexican soda.
 

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I'm glad you chose to be a vegetarian for entirely selfish reasons. If you'd done it out of any sense of decency I would be horrified (seems to be the gist of half the comments). Well, it's sad that you like meat so much yet are incapable of the simple feat of maintaining a healthy weight. I myself enjoyed some juicy lamb cutlets a few moments ago.

Cases of food poisoning like the one you referenced are relatively rare and mostly preventable if you cook your meat properly.
 

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I've been a vegetarian for 6 years now and I'd be surprised if it's a healther lifestyle than eating small amount of meat that haven't been fried. I've had protein defficiency's and currently have low blood pressure but you've made a good moral choice by not eating meat. I'd reccommend eating quorn products for protein.
 

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Firstly, congratulations. I've been vegetarian for extended periods, but I confess I found it very difficult. I was raised on meat and enjoy it a lot. There are a lot of good reasons to go vegetarian, and health and fitness is just one of 'em.

Secondly, don't believe anyone who says that you cannot be healthy as a vegetarian, or that soy hormones will turn you effeminate or gay. It is perfectly possible to be a healthy vegetarian, though many who try vegeratianism for the first time don't think things through and have problems with deficits of protein or iron. And there's no compelling evidence of side effects of high-soy diets when one looks at any of the Asian cultures in which soy is a staple food. I don't recommend making soy your only protein- any diet that goes to extremes tends to have its problems- but I suspect you have fewer risks from soy than you do from eating cow or pig that was pumped full of hormones and antibiotics.

Thirdly, yes, the state of the industrial meat industry really is that scary. The workers are minimally trained and have to process far too many animals in far too short a time, almost across the board. The amount of food the system produces is something of a miracle, but it has very few real safeguards, and ultimately has problems with sustainability.

Okay, pulpit aside, a few pointers.

If you don't want to eschew meat entirely, and you like seafood, fish can definitely be your friend. Wild-caught fish in particular is full of good fats- the ones that we increasingly suspect keep your brain sharp and your heart valves supple. Just be careful of eating a lot certain fish like tuna and swordfish that build up mercury in their system over their long lives and then pass it on to the creatures that eat them.

You do need protein. Eggs and soy are considered to be good sources because they contain the full suite of amino acids the human body needs to create proteins of its own; most plants lack part of that set, but one can still get the full suite by matching appropriate foods. This is a good part of the reason that legumes (beans) and rice are staple foods in much of the world; together, they make a perfect protein. A peanut butter sandwich also works pretty well. Seeds and nuts are your friends.

You also need iron, as had been mentioned, so as not to grow anemic. Chick peas, soybeans, dark leafy vegetables like spinach, figs, molasses, and dried apricots are good sources, among others. Vegetable iron sources are not as easily absorbed into the body as animal ones, so you need to be sure to get enough iron in your diet, which may take some thought.

Be aware that many vegetarians find their ability to "go back" to eating meat diminishes after they've been vegetarians for an extended period of time; the gut stops making the appropriate enzymes for meat digestion, which can make suddenly going for steak an unpleasant experience. If you continue to consume milk products this diminshment is slowed or stopped, at least accourding to some of my vegetarian friends. I recommend doing your own research.

Finally, my personal experience is that a regrettable amount of mainstream vegetarian products take the tack of: "we'll add soy sauce to soy protein and shape it, and it will be just like meat!" These people suck This is not a winning strategy. There are good vegetarian and vegan products out there- I have friends who swear by Quoorm, if you can find it- but by and large, the ones that embrace trying to be tasty within the context of being vegetarian tend to fare better than the ones that try to be "pretend-meat", which is almost inevitably disappointing.

Oh, and one last thing: One cup of dry rice, cooked, mixed with about half a packet of cooked "mexican style" frozen vegetables (the kind that comes with kindey beans and broccoli), tossed with soy sauce, mongolian fire oil, and a dash of dried ginger makes a lot of tasty, very inexpensive food that's also high in iron and a complete protein.
 

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If it is a health issue, then the proper thing to do is to reduce the amount of meat eaten. In today's society, meat servings are on average 2-4 times the size the should be. Therefore, eat smaller servings. Also, eating meats such as chicken, turkey and fish(I never understand how some vegetarians still eat fish when they claim that eating meat is mean to animals, FISH ARE ANIMALS THEREFORE IT IS MEAT. MEAT=MUSCLE /end rant) ahem. Anyway eating non-red meats is also healthier for people. I would personally recommend eating a small serving of red meat once a week, and 2-3 servings of other meat the rest of the week. It'll provide the protein you need, for-fill your cravings; keeping you in the best shape of your life

NOTE: 1 serving of meat = a deck of cards worth. That isn't particularly large.

If you choose to not eat meat because of "the furry animals", then perhaps you need a lesson in biology. Big animals eat small animals. That is the way life is, that is the way it always will be. If it is the ethical treatment of said animals BEFORE you eat them, then there are places you can get your meat where said animals were treated nicely (and their meat is all the more tastier, and healthier). Second, when did the human brain increase in size? Baring that you believe what conservapedia.com has to say about it, evolution of the human brain to start growing in size and in power happened at the same time that our ancestors began to eat meat. The protein in the meat allowed our brains to grow to the point they are today.

I'm not against vegetarianism, but from a medical point of view, most of the time it is not done correctly and is therefore more harm than good. A lot of vegetarians do not get enough protein in their diet, so even if you lose weight and can see that some fat is gone, you have to also ask yourself how much muscle mass is also being lost.

Simply put: For your health, eat meat in moderation as explained in the first paragraph. If you want to completely eliminate meat, be sure to eat foods high in proteins and in iron. good suggestions are beans and nuts. Also, be sure to vary where you get your proteins from to be sure to get all the essential Amino Acids in your diet.
 

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twasdfzxcv said:
Human crave meat and fat naturally for a reason you know, an evolutionary one. Good advice for being a vegetarian is stop being one, at least not for the wrong reasons. Just exercise regularly and you can eat whatever you want.

Plus the pain and suffering to animals makes meat taste better. /s

tscook said:
Though, the first step to getting healthier is cutting out soda. Full stop.

A sweet problem: Princeton researchers find that high-fructose corn syrup prompts considerably more weight gain[link] [http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/]
Or you can just stick with Mexican soda.
Yeah, well, I don't actually believe in evolution. I don't believe that some ignorant scientist can tell me all the facts about the history of the earth that they claim to have. And for the sake of restoring the peace, I say the same about religion as well.

But this topic isn't about evolution, so I'll just say that this is the most natural diet I think I've ever been on. It's been about 5 days, and I've been eating better than I have in years. This really feels like the right move for me.