So I just cancelled my Pre-order for Mass Effect 3...

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distortedreality

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EverythingIncredible said:
I cancelled my pre-order too.

It's clear that they're shoving customers around on this one because they can. And I LOVE the Mass Effect series.
By shoving around you mean giving more options?

Riiiiiiiiight.
 

putowtin

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Mcoffey said:
Well none of those things are making me happy, they aren't really deal breakers.

What's really lame about ME3 is the apparent linear storyline and that there don't appear to be any consequences for imported decisions.
I didn't read the transcript from the leaked beta (it was on here a few days ago.. ah here we go
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.321827-Mass-Effect-3-Plot-Details-Mined#13168816)

but apparently there are quite a few missions where the past truly catches up with shepherd

Oh I'll be playing it on the xbox, my nice shinny collectors edition!
 

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Mcoffey said:
Well none of those things are making me happy, they aren't really deal breakers.

What's really lame about ME3 is the apparent linear storyline and that there don't appear to be any consequences for imported decisions.
I'm pretty sure that me getting everyone but Shepard and Joker killed will have some kind of consequences.
 

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even if they made it a COD style first person shooter with a 6 hour campaign...I would still see it to the end

I mean..it jsut seems stupid to have such knew jerk reaction..but still I supose you could wait for the price to go down and all that
 

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THEN FINALLY, and this is the mac daddy issue I'm having with ME3, It's owned by EA, so it has online passes and you are required to sign up for EA Origins in order to play the game. If you don't know the EA origins scandal by now, signing up for an account with them is basically giving EA permission to put spyware on your computer, so that they can watch your online activity whenever you're online, and they can go snooping thorough your hard drive whenever they want to. I know this last part isn't bioware's fault, but it's still a gargantuan issue, and a huge arguing point for why I won't be picking up Mass Effect 3.
Oh gods... how I love that argument. It's so ridiculous it's actually funny. You use Steam? You use Windows? You use a web browser? Great, You have 3 times as much "spyware" as Origin. If You have iPhone you are even "spyware'ed" in Real Life. You know what Origin does? It scans the file structure to check for games that associated with Origin. It doesn't read the files, only checks whenever they exist.

But, as always, people will believe what they want... after all They are watching. They have the satellites, watching each of Your moves. Don't let Them catch You. Remember Area51....
You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services. EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION. This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in connection with your installation and use of this Application is collected, used, stored and transmitted in accordance with EA?s Privacy Policy located at www.ea.com. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA?s Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control.
Unless something has changed (which it very well might have) agreeing to the origin TOS gives origin permission to examine every file on your computer and that they can sell it. Also, unlike Steam, there is no way to opt out of it.
 

Herr Uhl

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I'm just baffled that people pre-order games this early while clearly being on the fence about it.

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Mcoffey said:
Maybe that's what I get for trusting people from the Bioware Social boards. They tend to get... dramatic over there.
Come on, if the game wouldn't hinge on whether you killed Shiala or not, they'd be displeased.
 

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Maybe you should purchase it for a console instead, because Origin sounds like a PC problem.

Contrary to popular belief 'round these parts, consoles aren't the embodiment of Satans electronics department.
 

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w9496 said:
Maybe you should purchase it for a console instead, because Origin sounds like a PC problem.

Contrary to popular belief 'round these parts, consoles aren't the embodiment of Satans electronics department.
Believe me, I own both a PS3 and a 360, I love console gaming, I just prefer PC gaming these days.
 

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Mcoffey said:
Maybe that's what I get for trusting people from the Bioware Social boards. They tend to get... dramatic over there.
they do tend to over do things, even the smallest thing has been known to drive them over the edge:
"Garrus's outfit is a different shade of blue, discuss!"
Was one of the more insane threads I saw
 

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Mcoffey said:
What's really lame about ME3 is the apparent linear storyline and that there don't appear to be any consequences for imported decisions.
The storyline drops any pretenses of moral greyness in its factions and characters. Everyone becomes one dimensional. If a character is unfriendly or otherwise irritable then they are a evil. It's boring.

There are a handful of neat ideas in ME3, but I think the bad far outweighs the good.
 

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if origin's the main problem for you, install origin, buy me3, uninstall origin, then download the cracked version. that's what i'm doing.

and the fact that there's co-op isn't what bugs me, hell, i'd love to see the reaper fight from both sides, shepard and the grunts, but
a, there's no characterization about the squads, when it could be something like l4d with well written characters, and
b, they're copping out on the multiplayer by letting you get the same goddamn rewards by not playing it. give the multiplayer a unique purpose to be there or just bloody delete it.

(but there is potential for more storytelling in it, the results probably aren't there)
 

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I moved away from ME3 with the whole Origin thing.

Heard too many horror stories about that and can't be arsed with the headache.
 

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SargentToughie said:
w9496 said:
Maybe you should purchase it for a console instead, because Origin sounds like a PC problem.

Contrary to popular belief 'round these parts, consoles aren't the embodiment of Satans electronics department.
Believe me, I own both a PS3 and a 360, I love console gaming, I just prefer PC gaming these days.
I can see why some would prefer PC over consoles, but maybe you should make an exception if Origin worries you that much.
 

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Amnestic said:
SargentToughie said:
This is from EA's website on the requirements for playing certain games
I bolded the operative word. Certain games. Which means ME3 might not be one of them just as TOR isn't. I'm still waiting for confirmation one way or another.
seems like you're running on blind hope and shattered dreams there...

Mass Effect 3 will be on Origin, considering they want the product to work, and since ME3 is one of theyr biggest games, of course they will put it only workable with origin, to attract more people.

What did you expect them to create a engine and then leave some of the biggest games on the side? That would be admitting Origin sucks basicly.

It will be on Origin and if you want i can even bet whatever you want.... heck, if ME3 doesn't use Origin at all, i'll even shave my head bald...
 

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I don't think that appealing to new clienteles is a bad idea in ME3's case, if they end up having the "action" and "story" modes in the final build. Think about it. The people who would opt to play those modes are in essence electing to play only half of the game's ideal content. If they play the modes that are designed to make them feel more comfortable entering the series, and enjoy it, they might want to give the other half of the game a try. Maybe you'll turn the shooter fans into RPG fans also, God forbid!

For what I've heard so far, the introduction of standard Alliance meathead James Vega to your squad was actually a pretty smart move. It allows the people who are new to the series to catch up on the story, while the rest of us who've stuck with Mass Effect for years can identify with Shepard as (s)he has to assign Vega "Reapers for Dummies" as homework; the all-knowing Mass Effect fans letting the unknowing CoDers in on this amazing story.

IamGamer41 said:
The N7 assault rifle you will get in the game.The other n7 weapons are a bonus for the collector edition.
I hadn't heard about that, but it's not surprising, given that the assault rifle is Shepard's iconic weapon. You see Shepard firing an assault rifle in ME2 cutscenes, even when you're playing a class that doesn't use them!
 

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artanis_neravar said:
Keava said:
SargentToughie said:
THEN FINALLY, and this is the mac daddy issue I'm having with ME3, It's owned by EA, so it has online passes and you are required to sign up for EA Origins in order to play the game. If you don't know the EA origins scandal by now, signing up for an account with them is basically giving EA permission to put spyware on your computer, so that they can watch your online activity whenever you're online, and they can go snooping thorough your hard drive whenever they want to. I know this last part isn't bioware's fault, but it's still a gargantuan issue, and a huge arguing point for why I won't be picking up Mass Effect 3.
Oh gods... how I love that argument. It's so ridiculous it's actually funny. You use Steam? You use Windows? You use a web browser? Great, You have 3 times as much "spyware" as Origin. If You have iPhone you are even "spyware'ed" in Real Life. You know what Origin does? It scans the file structure to check for games that associated with Origin. It doesn't read the files, only checks whenever they exist.

But, as always, people will believe what they want... after all They are watching. They have the satellites, watching each of Your moves. Don't let Them catch You. Remember Area51....
You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services. EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION. This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in connection with your installation and use of this Application is collected, used, stored and transmitted in accordance with EA?s Privacy Policy located at www.ea.com. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA?s Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control.
Unless something has changed (which it very well might have) agreeing to the origin TOS gives origin permission to examine every file on your computer and that they can sell it. Also, unlike Steam, there is no way to opt out of it.
You need to actually read that before getting your knickers in a twist. It just makes you look like an idiot.

IP address: collected by everything that connects to the internet.

Operating system: collected by nearly everything by proxy of what web browser you are using. You aren't going to be using a safari configured for macs on a windows system but if everyone is now running macs, they want to know so they can sell to the most people

Application usage: yes, they want to know how often you use their services

Software: the games you downloaded?

Software usage: how often you play them?

Hardware: apparently you don't seem to understand that there are a lot of different computers out there with different hardware and they need to know what people are using so they don't develop something that puts BF3 graphics to shame only to have no one on earth run it.

There is literally nothing there even slightly out of the ordinary nor is there anything in there that lets them root through your hard drive. So keep wearing your tin-foil hat and calling EA the Illuminati, I'm sure Jesus will return on his alien spaceship and let everyone know you were right.
 

Irony's Acolyte

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Yes, because they want to make their games have more action along with the story, they are trying to appeal to the lowest denominator. Because obviously more action is a bad thing.

Seriously, I had been playing DA2 for a while at one point when I went back to DA:O. Know what I realized? The combat is boring and tedious as fuck. It was: point character there, let them attack some, do a spell or ability, rinse and repeat until done. What's wrong with them trying to spice of their game a little bit? I mean, do you really think the 'MW simpletons' will abandon their 'god-game' to play some lame RPG?

But no, Bioware isn't trying to make their game have good story and engaging gameplay, they are just trying to dumb it down for other types of players.
 

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SargentToughie said:
Fusioncode9 said:
How is having three different modes a problem for you? It's actually a good things since it can appeal to more people. You'd still have your beloved RPG mode but some people may be in it for only the action or the story.
It's not the multiple play modes themselves that anger me, it's the fact this is a first warning sign that Bioware's trying to appeal to the idiot modern warfare crowd.
No, they're trying to appeal to different types of gamers. RPG fans still get the RPG that they loved from the first one, people who just want the story will get to simply experience the story, and people who only care about action will just get the action that they want. Get off your high horse and stop insulting people just because they enjoy different types of games than you.