So i just got UMvC3

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krazykidd

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So despite swearing off all games thats weren't rpgs , my friend bought me the game so we could play together . Having no choice and being mildly competitive i have to play it , i might or might not like it , but that is to be scene . I haven't played a fightinggame since Mortal kombat trilogy for the N64.

My question is , any tips for this game? What do i avoid? What are the OP characters and the bottom tier characters? Whos you favorite characters. What do i need to know going into this .

Also should i buy an arcade stick for this game?Do any of you have an arcade stick?

Any information at all will be usefull really, i want to give this game a fair chance , maybe even Play competetively if i really like it ( always wanted to be a tournyfag).

PS: i got it for the xbox360
 

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Wesker, Vergil, and Dormammu are pretty godlike. Wesker especially. He's fast, does a crapton of damage, and has great mixups.

Characters to avoid? Tron and She-Hulk are terrible. There's probably a few others that are just not good, but those are the ones that stand out.
 

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If you get an Arcade Stick, your performance will actually become WORSE the first few days/weeks, especially if you're used to fighting with a D-pad and controller. The switch to the stick is immense and well, like a young adult man starting his Jedi training, you must unlearn what you have learned.

So unless you want to become a dedicated fighting game nut, I suggest just sticking to the controller.
 

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MetallicaRulez0 said:
Wesker, Vergil, and Dormammu are pretty godlike. Wesker especially. He's fast, does a crapton of damage, and has great mixups.

Characters to avoid? Tron and She-Hulk are terrible. There's probably a few others that are just not good, but those are the ones that stand out.
I've heard pro-gamers tell me that She-Hulk is actually one of the best brawlers in the entire game with amazing rushdowns, lots of versatility, and plenty of potent damage.

I'm eager to see how Nova stacks up. He seems to be the hero that always looks the best yet nobody talks about him because, you know, Phoenix Wright's in the game.
 

Gigaguy64

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Practice, and have some variety on your teams.
Picking characters that compliment each other and your style of fighting is always better than going for the op fighters.

My main team is Zero, Haggar, Wesker.
Gives me some durability with Haggar, power from all three, Projectile from Zero, and excellent mix up/Battery from Zero and Wesker.

I just got UMvC3 as well and its pretty freaking good.
DAT FELICIA.
Was good as her in MvC3 and now she is even better.
Also.
DAT NEMESIS.
 

Gigaguy64

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MetallicaRulez0 said:
Wesker, Vergil, and Dormammu are pretty godlike. Wesker especially. He's fast, does a crapton of damage, and has great mixups.

Characters to avoid? Tron and She-Hulk are terrible. There's probably a few others that are just not good, but those are the ones that stand out.
Tron and She-Hulk.
Not Good.
Wat.

Both of them are pretty excellent, on their own and with good partners.
You cant get out of She-Hulks grabs easily, and its impossible with the right assists.
And she can get in and out of your face quickly and effectively.

Tron is not so good anymore but still deadly if you know how to string L,M,H, LUNCH TIME, GET IN LINE.
Or just jump H/S.
 

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Top tier, from the three or so days the game has officially been out, I'd say are:

Wesker, Vergil, Phoenix, Dante, and Dr. Doom. Maybe Strider. Hawkeye has an OP hyper, but aside from that, I wouldn't put him that high.

Bottom tier:

She-Hulk got nerfed hard (I find it funny that nerfing the distance of her slide did so much to her). As did Haggar, but his pipe still makes him a threat. Arthur, MODOK, and Hsien Ko aren't going to tear anyone apart single-handedly, but that's most likely because people don't take the time to figure them out. The fact that you can't block on an air dash REALLY hurts Morrigan.

Big surprise, Felicia I think is going to be up there too. But honestly, its too early to tell on characters that aren't either: From vanilla, or are just obviously OP, like Vergil.

As for the stick, I have one. I love it to death and couldn't imagine playing on anything else. But they're expensive, and unless you are really going to get into the game, and other fighters, I can't say I'd recommend it. Maybe a pad?

And my team at the moment is Trish, Hawkeye, Wesker. Trish because I love zoning/runaway, Hawkeye because I love Hawkeye as a comic book character, and Wesker because he's good, and RE is my favorite game series.

Just practice, practice, practice. Look up some youtube tutorials (I recommend Maximilian. Dude is quality), and keep at it.
 

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She-Hulk is really slow now, and a lot of her strongest moves from vanilla got nerfed hard like the slide.

When your looking at your team, ideally you want 3 characters who work well with each other, but at the same time have the ability to fight well alone, characters like these include Wesker, Dr.Doom, Dormammu and Dante among others.

It might be tempting to use a weaker character just because they have a strong assist, but you have to think that if you lose your other 2 characters, your as good as dead.

People are still discovering the new characters, but Vergil, Nova and Hawkeye are looking like the best of the new bunch so far as well.
 

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If you take the time to learn how to play him, Phoenix Wright can be godly. Just keep the enemy at bay until you can make it into turn about mode. Then thrash him. Other than that, UMvC3 is the kind of game where it pays to learn the combos and beyond that, the best order to use said combos in. Some fighting games you can get by in by button mashing, others you can't.
 

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Don't listen to others when they tell you what characters to use.
My X-23 can take down characters considered OP and overused most of the time... some people are just better than me.
It's important you pick a character that supports your fighting style though, which is why I'm having such a hard time with strider, as im incredibly rushdown-centric, and strider is more a punishment character.
Other than that, you have to make sure that your team utilizes assists to get every advantage you can using your main, block out as many possible opposing strategies as possible, you have to make sure that when your main dies you can still fight, and perhaps less importantly, you have to make sure their DHCs work.

try everyone, see who you're good with and try build a team around them.
 

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Phoenix Wright doesn't seem that good to start with, but you really do have to learn how to use him.

Firebrand is AWESOME! As is Nemesis, and Nova's growing on me too.

Really don't like Strider though.
 

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Vergil, Wesker, Frank West (if just for the shopping cart assist) and Phoenix are Top Tier. Hawkeye and Storm are pretty rockin, too. Ryu, Dr. Doom, Deadpool, Cpt. America and Zero have all gotten some pretty hefty buffs, but not quite enough to make them Top. Plus, Doom has gotten his super best friend Strider back :3

Bottom Tiers: Shuma, Jill, Modok, Hsien-Ko, Arthur, V. Joe. Pretty much the same as the last game. The cool thing about MvC3's balance is that every character has SOMETHING that is OP in the right situation, but these just lack the same variety and tools that the better characters have. Phoenix Wrifght is, IMO, pretty bad. You basically have to design an entire team around him to use him effectively; its just far too gimmicky.

If you are new to the game I'd reccomend starting with simpler characters, like Ryu or Nova to start. They don't have many moves, and the ones they do have will seem familiar if you have any fighting game experience. All of the characters in the game have their own nuances, but they all play somewhat similarly (similar to MK, in that regard). Once you've learned the basics with one, they'll carry over to most of the characters in the cast. Just don't start with guys like Magneto, Dante, or Firebrand.

The most important thing to learn about MVC is that you are playing a TEAM, not 3 individual characters. This isn't KoF. Never design your team around the individual strengths of the characters. Instead, think of how they mesh. Some charactesr are terrible in a fight but have assists that can make another character go from good to great (Strider/Doom from MvC2, Wolverine/Akuma from MvC3). Phoenix Wright, Frank West, and Rocket Raccoon all have assists that completely validate their presence on a team, despite their lackluster presence in a fight. A good plan is to break your team down into a point man (the character you'll start the match as, and play for most of it), an assist (the guy who your going to be calling in to help the point), and an anchor (a "backup" character, to use when the pointman goes down).

Your pointman should be a good character, someone fast, strong, good combo potential. Many people choose Storm, Magneto, She-Hulk, Taskmaster, Dante, Vergil. Think of them as "If I could only choose 2 characters, who would I pick?" Your first choice should be your point.

An assist is much more specific, usually tailored to your point. The most important thing about them is, naturally, chosing the assist that meshes best with your point. As rushdown characters tend to be popular as points, many people choose assists that are good at applying pressure or hitting OTG to continue combos. Frank West, in particular, has a FANTASTIC assist in his shopping cart. Ditto Phoenix Wright with "Press the Witness".

Your anchor is like a second point character, with the caveat that they need to be someone who can basically win a match on their own. Someone who can come out strong, especially with the help of lots of meter and X-factor, and effectively "sweep" the other, weakened team. Sentinel, Wesker, and Phoenix used to be the most popular choices in 3. These are characters who may not be perfect on point (usually because they are very meter heavy), but are extremely dangerous in the right situation.
 

krazykidd

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Thanks for all the advice guys . Since i'm a complet beginner i really have no idea where to start. So i guess i'll have to try out different characters and combinations. Maybe invest in a stick once i start really knowing what i am doing.
garjian said:
Don't listen to others when they tell you what characters to use.
My X-23 can take down characters considered OP and overused most of the time... some people are just better than me.
It's important you pick a character that supports your fighting style though, which is why I'm having such a hard time with strider, as im incredibly rushdown-centric, and strider is more a punishment character.
Other than that, you have to make sure that your team utilizes assists to get every advantage you can using your main, block out as many possible opposing strategies as possible, you have to make sure that when your main dies you can still fight, and perhaps less importantly, you have to make sure their DHCs work.

try everyone, see who you're good with and try build a team around them.
Quick question about assist , since as far as i can see every character has 3 assist choices, what do i need to put into consideration when i'm choosing an assist?
 

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Doctor Doom is pretty ridiculous now. I mean, he could keep up with pretty much anything in MVC3, but they BUFFED him for Ultimate. Now he's just awesome.
Oh, and oddly enough, Captain America is actually pretty amazing now too.
Low tier characters are probably gonna include Rocket Raccoon (who's a cool concept for a character, but his damage output is crap) and Arthur (because he hasn't changed TOO much from MVC3... has he?).

And wow, is Storm good now? I mean, hardly anyone used her back in the last version.
 

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krazykidd said:
Quick question about assist , since as far as i can see every character has 3 assist choices, what do i need to put into consideration when i'm choosing an assist?
if your combo needs an OTG (an attack that pick up Off The Ground) to finish with a hyper or get more hits in and your character doesn't have a one, assists!
if your character needs cover while they do something risky... assists!
if you have an OTG but can't act fast enough afterwards, use assists to keep the combo going...
that's about it but, some characters have only one low attack, hulk for example, and you can use assists to gain another but that's well... risky and not great...
just think of them as an extra attack for your character that's currently fighting... pick ones that have properies you need...
 

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I keep hearing Jill is bad.

She apparently was better than Wesker, but Seth Kill-Capcom said they should take out her best thing for UMVC3; an infinite engine.
 

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Rensenhito said:
Doctor Doom is pretty ridiculous now. I mean, he could keep up with pretty much anything in MVC3, but they BUFFED him for Ultimate. Now he's just awesome.
Oh, and oddly enough, Captain America is actually pretty amazing now too.
Low tier characters are probably gonna include Rocket Raccoon (who's a cool concept for a character, but his damage output is crap) and Arthur (because he hasn't changed TOO much from MVC3... has he?).

And wow, is Storm good now? I mean, hardly anyone used her back in the last version.
Storm has always been good. Unfortunately, everything she could do, Magneto could do better. So she didn't get much use outside of teams abusing the DHC glitch. Kind of the same boat as Wolverine/X-23. X-23 isn't a BAD character, but Wolverine did the same things better. Now that Mags has gotten some decent nerfs for Ultimate, I expect she'll be seeing more play.

And Arthur is still bad. He actually got buffed from Vanilla, and he's still bad. He's not Hsien-Ko bad, or Jill bad, but still bottom tier.

Rocket Raccoon is a weird one. His damage output is WAY too low, but ignoring that he's actually fairly effective. He's also got one of the best assist moves in the game (log trap).
 

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All day, every day, forever, until the end of time.

I can't say it's a particularly effective team, Fist really doesn't belong. But hell if it isn't a lot of fun.
 

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At a beginner level of play, it really doesn't matter who you choose. Your main concern should be learning how to play, and learning what each character does.

As you start learning each character, you'll naturally gravitate towards your favorites. Once you know who you're good with, you can start working on building an effective team.

As others have said, if you have any experience at all with fighters, characters like Ryu, Captain America, and Spider-Man should be your starting point, as they're the most conventional in terms of moveset. But don't be afraid to experiment.

Also, shoryuken dot com has a great guide for each character. I haven't checked it recently, so I don't know if they've updated it yet with the new 12.