So I just survived a school shooting...

[ninjajoeman]

like alot of people said how the hell did he get an ak-47, get it in class, and have the time to shoot himself? I do have to say I feel sorry for him though I mean he probably wanted to go out with a bang and be remembered. Worst part is that schools can not give suicide any recognition or people would some how think that they should do it too, as messed up as that sounds.

 

[Ekit]

I hahven't experienced anything like that, I don't think we have had a school shooting in Sweden.

Also, why did he kill himself? And why with an AK-47? That doesn't seem like a gun you commit suicide with to me...

 

[thublihnk]

Heyyy, I live in Austin too. I was still asleep when the shooting happened.

 

[Burningsok]

in middle school, we had a lock down. I think it was because someone had a gun or they had a boom, not sure. But from the beginning of school till about 40 minutes before school ended I was stuck in my first hour class. I just watched tv with everyone else, or played board games.

 

[asinann]

If this is blamed on video games and not the availability of firearms (amongst other things) I will be both unsurprised and hugely pissed off.

Anyway, that must have been shit a day.

Someone killed themselves (and harmed nobody else in the process) and that is the fault of guns existing? That makes less sense then the people that blame violent behavior on violent media. At least there there is some kind of connection (monkey see monkey do idea).

He took a fucking AK-47 into school and shot himself with it. So OK, no one was shot this time, but have you seen the number of school shootings that have taken place in America? It's ludicrous.

You mean one every few years? They wouldn't happen if people would just take time out of their day, shut off their televisions and just, hit their children.

If this is blamed on video games and not the availability of firearms (amongst other things) I will be both unsurprised and hugely pissed off.

Anyway, that must have been shit a day.

The only thing to blame this on is the kid that did the shooting, if he didn't have a gun he would have used pills, or a knife to kill himself.

This "it's the availability of guns that makes people into killers" crap is just that: crap. People have been killing each other ever since we learned that rocks can be used to crush skulls.

thats not the point the availabilty of guns is what increase the death count rocks can't kill dozens of people in a second from 200+ yards

Neither can a semi-automatic weapon, especially not an ak-47. Those things start to get more than a touch inaccurate after about 150 yards and even with a scoped hunting rifle you need time to aim. You want to kill dozens of people in a second from 200 yards you need some kind of explosive.

 

[Clockwork Scarecrow.]

probably this will get blown up in media then they will blame it on his music style and video games not the fact that he may have been a social outcast or some kind off mental illness.

In fairness it's hard to diagnose a mental illness when the patient is dead...

Anyway, it's a shame about the suicide but at least it wasn't a rampage.

 

[Queen Michael]

Is this going to be one of those events where the media treat violent video games as a bigger problem than the violence and murder they (purportedly) lead to?

 

[ultimateownage]

People do it because they want to be remembered, and to go out fighting. The only reasons I wouldn't do it is due to the potential of failing to kill myself, the difficulty of getting a gun and adding to the fire of anti violent games.

 

[Blackality]

Never saw a gun in my life.
I hope I never will.

 

[Calatar]

If this is blamed on video games and not the availability of firearms (amongst other things) I will be both unsurprised and hugely pissed off.

Anyway, that must have been shit a day.

Someone killed themselves (and harmed nobody else in the process) and that is the fault of guns existing? That makes less sense then the people that blame violent behavior on violent media. At least there there is some kind of connection (monkey see monkey do idea).

He took a fucking AK-47 into school and shot himself with it. So OK, no one was shot this time, but have you seen the number of school shootings that have taken place in America? It's ludicrous.

Blame the culture not the guns.

I think the guns help with the whole "shooting" bit.
What is the point of owning assault rifles anyways?

I posted the answer in this thread before. You can look for it if you care.

I'd already read the thread. You said it was a cheap and easy to maintain rifle, which still doesn't tell me what the point of owning it is.

 

[Canid117]

I think it can only be blamed on the availability of firearms because, not to sound insensitive, who shoots themselves with an AK47?!

My guess is that he was intending to kill others but could not bring himself to do it. Otherwise why not use a more common firearm?

Unless a few people died the major news networks will probably not do more than mention this for five minutes and move on to Lindsay Lohans court hearings.(Christ I fucking hate mainstream news) The tragedy isn't big enough for them to capitalize on.

OT: the closest thing to a school shooting that has ever happened to me is when my highschool would get locked down because someone robbed the Key Bank down the street. Happened twice in my highschool career.

 

[nofear220]

Anyway, that must have been shit a day. I think it can only be blamed on the availability of firearms because, not to sound insensitive, who shoots themselves with an AK47?!

People who want to commit suicide but also want to leave a huge mess I guess. (or now that I think of it, No possibility of survival unlike 9mm rounds)

 

[manaman]

This is only part of the first page. Geezz people you have some funny ideas about what an AK-47 is.

isnt stuff like that forbidden on the campus? knowing fox news they,l probaly blame it on Nintendogs

Yeah, U of T is one of those 'ahead of the curb' school where bringing an automatic weapon to school and killing yourself is forbidden.

First it's not an automatic weapon. It's a semi-Automatic.

So he got hold of a ak-47 and then shot himself with it.Wouldnt it been easier just to get hold of a handgun as you dont normally just pick up a ak-47 on the streets.

It's as easy to get a hold of an AK as it is any other rifle. There is noting really special about the civilian model of the firearm. It shoots a 7.62x39 cartridge, which packs less of a punch then BAR in .30-06, BARs are common hunting rifles, which where once military service rifles as well. I have a .300 win mag rifle I use for hunting, .300 win mag is 7.62x67 sized cartridge.

I find it odd that he'd use an AK-47 to shoot himself.
I mean, why an AK?

Why not? He probably bought it for the same reasons half this thread is all bedazzled he used an AK in the first place. Then used it because he had it.

He got an AK47 from where exactly? I didn't think they sold them in vending machines on campus.

He probably bought the firearm legally. Why would he have to have acquired it on campus for him to use it on campus? It's not like they are rare, or hard to buy because, and this is the killer, there is nothing special about them! Amazing right? The civilian model is just an underpowered semi-auto that's got noting special going for it.

AK47? OH SON OF A *****! I want to fire from this baby too! Also... Why would you kill yourself after you get your hands on such amazing weapon? D:

Oh, I don't know if I should repeat myself again. Just read everything else. It's just a semi-auto rifle like any other.

The only advantage he might have had with it over other weapons he might have owned would be if he bought a folding stock for the gun. Then it would be easier to conceal.

I also notice nobody lists the weapon caliber I have been assuming it was the fairly typical 7.62x39, but it's easily possible this one was .223 remmington as well since they sell them in that caliber.

 

[nub the samurai]

The most that has happened at my school is one time the school locked down for a whole day because somebody brought an airsoft gun to school. There was another one that locked down the school for bout half the day because they found a bomb threat written on a bathroom wall once.

 

[Varanfan9]

My friend got the police on someone who was threatening to bring a shot gun. Oh and we get a yearly bomb threat but really it just acts as a get out of school for free card.

 

[BenzSmoke]

Where did he get an AK-47 and why did he kill himself?

Yeah, I'd like an answer to those questions too.

 

[Woodsey]

If this is blamed on video games and not the availability of firearms (amongst other things) I will be both unsurprised and hugely pissed off.

Anyway, that must have been shit a day.

The only thing to blame this on is the kid that did the shooting, if he didn't have a gun he would have used pills, or a knife to kill himself.

This "it's the availability of guns that makes people into killers" crap is just that: crap. People have been killing each other ever since we learned that rocks can be used to crush skulls.

If the rocks aren't so easily available there's less of a chance of it happening.

The point is less that he "only" killed himself, and more that he could get hold of an automatic weapon and the potential damage. Why, pray tell, would anyone in America require an AK47 to begin with?

I think you're gliding over the fact that gun equals insta-death, whereas knife, pills and hanging are far slower, more painful affairs.

If the gun's not there for people to get, there's less chance of stuff like this (and the regular school shootings in the States). There may be school stabbings but there's never gonna be a school stabbing on the scale of a school shooting.

 

[manaman]

Anyway, that must have been shit a day. I think it can only be blamed on the availability of firearms because, not to sound insensitive, who shoots themselves with an AK47?!

People who want to commit suicide but also want to leave a huge mess I guess. (or now that I think of it, No possibility of survival unlike 9mm rounds)

The 9mm bullet is physically larger in diameter then the 7.62mm round used in the AK-47. It makes a bigger hole, it may not weigh as much or have as much powder behind it, but that doesn't make a damn bit of difference when you are holding to gun to your head.

People in this thread seem to think the AK is some magical weapon with exploding bullets or something.

I think it can only be blamed on the availability of firearms because, not to sound insensitive, who shoots themselves with an AK47?!

My guess is that he was intending to kill others but could not bring himself to do it. Otherwise why not use a more common firearm?

Again, not as common. But easily available gun in the US. You don't find them as often because it's mostly young adults buying them for the "cool factor" of it being an AK-47, when much better rifles could be had for the same price. They are civilian models, and semi-auto.

 

[Zeromaxx]

I experienced an event like this in my senior year of highschool (last year). Because of some animosity between 2 petty, small time street gangs 6 people were arrested (and charged) for 1) being on federal property with a firearm 2) being in possession of an unregistered firearm 3) being a minor in possession of a firearm among some other charges like conspiracy to commit murder. I was locked down in a classroom for about an hour after school ended, it was unforgivable.

 

[Jodah]

An AK47 is quite the odd choice for suicide. Rather difficult to position compared to other weapons. On a related note I get to pick up my Glock today (New York requires you register hand guns before you can possess it.)

As for exciting things that happened to me, there was a pretty big fire in the cafeteria of my high school once. Thats about it.