So I was playing [Prototype] while some friends were watching when... Bam Racism

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RAMBO22

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Being that the African race for about 500 years (start of slavery for mining and plantations in the 1500's to the end of Imperialistic demands on Africa ) was under the constant opression of caucasians I can understand if your friend is a little defensive. However, I would say that your white friends comment about running up walls is practically a compliment to peoples of your race for their athletic ability and vigour. I know how ridiculous are jokes about your athleticism might sound from time to time, but when it comes down to it (I'll be the first to admit it), we joke around about your (the black race's) athleticism because WE WISH WE COULD BE AS ATHLETICALLY DOMINANT AS YOU ARE AND WE'RE JEALOUS. Black athletes tend to work harder than white athletes because they're fighting for something in society in this results in superior athletes.
 

Grand_Poohbah

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Sounded more like a comment on the guys shoes and the tendency of "hood" people to wear sport shoes, not particularly against a certain race.

RAMBO22 said:
Being that the African race for about 500 years (start of slavery for mining and plantations in the 1500's to the end of Imperialistic demands on Africa ) was under the constant opression of caucasians I can understand if your friend is a little defensive. However, I would say that your white friends comment about running up walls is practically a compliment to peoples of your race for their athletic ability and vigour. I know how ridiculous are jokes about your athleticism might sound from time to time, but when it comes down to it (I'll be the first to admit it), we joke around about your (the black race's) athleticism because WE WISH WE COULD BE AS ATHLETICALLY DOMINANT AS YOU ARE AND WE'RE JEALOUS. Black athletes tend to work harder than white athletes because they're fighting for something in society in this results in superior athletes.
Write a book lol.
 

LeonLethality

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it's comedy it aint funny unless someone gets hurt
I found it to be one of those jokes a bunch of friends laugh over my friends do it all the time racist or not its notihng against one another unless its blantantly insulting them
 

Agrael

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Screw race.
We're all human.

And yes, overreacting and 'effing hilarious joke.
 

standokan

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i you make racist jokes that doesn't makes somebody a racis, they're just trying to be funny, thats all, no big problem.
 

Pimppeter2

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You're friend has the right to be offended. You're other firend should apologize regardless of how he sees it.
 

Therumancer

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What people misunderstand about stereotypes is that they are a list of things that are generally true about a group of people. Take any person that is part of a group and one or more of those things is very likely to be true, probably most of them. Being exceptional to a stereotype in some way does not mean you aren't part of it.

What's more there are so many stereotypes out there that typically one cannot exit one stereotype by "being differant in every conceivable way" without simply entering another stereotype of some sort.

When it comes to blacks for example, there isn't just ONE racial stereotype, there are actually several, and you can't really break a mould without entering another one.

What's more when you get down to it people of ANY type or ethnicity want to see themselves as individuals, rather than part of a stereotype or mould. Sadly despite that desire people are typically not unique and beautiful flowers despite what we want to believe.

Before people scream and yell about this, you can take the whole idea of stereotypes and extend it into a science called "sociology". Sociology for those who never studied it (unlikely since it became required when I was in school) is the study of large groups of people, and patterns of behavior. Whether people like the idea or not, the fact is that it works and shows exactly how predictable we are. Even the exceptions are mathematically accounted for in predicting many trends. While everyone likes to look at sociological figures and go "well I'm in that 1% that we allow for when computing the trend" chances are you aren't no matter what you want to think.

Indeed the annoying thing about sociology is that by saying "I'm not a stereotype" you just became one because that's the predicted reaction that will be given by pretty much everyone. The exception is the guy who is like "oh yeah, I'm the stereotype and bloody proud of it" but even so they simply enter into a minority stereotype demographic.

I know people are going to disagree and resent this, but let's just say that when I was in school I didn't like the idea but was sold on it after a period of time. Stereotypes are true, apologies to those who feel it negatively impacts their perception of individualiy, civil liberties, or whatever.

At any rate, sociology is used for marketing. One of the reasons why a company like Nike can make so much money is because they realize that Black people like their sneakers, and like seeing athletes in black dominated sports jumping around and such. They also like to see themselves better as white people and such.

So they take the fancy sneakers, get a popular black athelete to jump around, and perhaps do something like put a white guy in the commercial who tries to play basketball ineffectively (I mention this last point not to enflame anyone, but because examples were shown of this specifically when I was in school. I believe it was actually a Powerade commercial though with them talking about 'camp powerade' with all these macho black guys doing fancy aeriel slams, and some fat white guy not making the cut who could barely dribble).

At any rate the single out a target audience who wants the product, bombard it with images that appeal to it sociologically, and BAM! marketing gold. It keeps working so they keep doing it.

Of course in doing so it confirms a stereotype, and a lot of people don't want to see themselves as being sheep, or feel they can be that closely associated with a given behavior.

Things like sociology can also identify trends like racism or reverse racism in marketing as mentioned above.

The guy making the comment is correct, jumping around like that in an urban enviroment is exactly the kind of thing they would use to sell shoes, sports drinks, and other things to the black community and would do it successfully. Stereotypical but true.

You aim a product at white guys, you do it differantly. You aim it at rednecks (excuse me outdoorsmen) you do it differantly still. :p

The point here is everyone is a stereotype, and like it or not for all comments about "sheeple" we are social creatures and tend to band together and emulate each other's behavior. With enough information technology this can be plotted and predicted. In the end we all wind up being more like others than differant, and it can take a fairly intense microscope to find genuine signs of individuality. Even getting into psycology (the study
of the individual mind and psyche) which also works it can take a lot of work to really find the core of individuality in a person. It exists, we call it a soul, but it's not quite as powerful as a lot of us would want to believe.

Incidently, I am probably more of an individual than most people. We DO exist. We are known by the label "Insane" (sanity being defined as by what is normal for society.. odd that). Society does not treat us well, even when we are functional within it. As I've pointed out, I'm a disabled.
 
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That was pretty funny. And it was just a joke, people need to lighten up.

PaulPaulPaul said:
Some people look for racism in every comment they can.
Same with some woman who look for sexist comments
In which case who are the people spreading racism/sexism?
The people who make the comments? Or the people who constantly try to find the comments and split them into "right" and "wrong"
 

antipunt

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AverageJoe said:
It was just a joke, some people take things too seriously.
Right on. Reverse-racism has the potential to rear its ugly-head when people develop an over-inflated sense of self-entitlement...which kind of happens whenever any particular group is given any special-power

I've never had a personal problem with this,however. Once I saw an african-woman and a black man behind her (in line in a store), and I asked if they were 'here together' cause I had to ring-up her stuff. She flinched a little, but laughed straight after ("aHAHA, nah. Nope"). She was chill. I felt like apologizing for that...but there was no need I guess.