So I went to a strip club the other day...

[skeliton112]

Personally I think its disgusting, and I find the fact that you're bragging about it even more disgusting

Sorry i guess we know how to have fun.

Do you think the strippers were having 'fun'? Do you think they feel good about themselves? I mean hey, if you have fun by demeaning and objectifying woman then well theres not much I can say. But really, next time think about how your actions make others feel.

I believe it?s disgusting how you can pass judgement on not only me but the woman. I was talking to a girl, it was her 2nd shift and she was cool as hell! she said she was glad that we met I must have talk to her for about an hour, and I never even paid her anything she was definitely having fun I even gave her a dance...didn?t get paid though !


Time to come your high horse me thinks

Well excuse me for not thinking its ok to support the idea of woman getting naked for money. I will no longer be posting in this thread.

Even if u dont reply i just wanted to ask you a question: what is wrong with being naked?

 

[TrogzTheTroll]

Personally I think its disgusting, and I find the fact that you're bragging about it even more disgusting

Q_Q I find it disgusting that you find things disgusting.

 

[TrogzTheTroll]

Personally I think its disgusting, and I find the fact that you're bragging about it even more disgusting

Sorry i guess we know how to have fun.

Do you think the strippers were having 'fun'? Do you think they feel good about themselves? I mean hey, if you have fun by demeaning and objectifying woman then well theres not much I can say. But really, next time think about how your actions make others feel.

Someone obviously didnt donate enough money to various organizations to help these women so they wouldnt HAVE to be strippers. I think the one at fault here is you for not doing more for the community.

 

[DazBurger]

Personally I think its disgusting, and I find the fact that you're bragging about it even more disgusting

Yeah! Disgusting! Real men go to thai-brothels!

 

[DarkHourPrince]

My friends might drag me to one when I'm 21. Dunno yet.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Pay to have a girl get me completely aroused only to leave when the music stops (and the cash runs out)? No thanks.

Sounds like a lot of my relationships.

 

[Hurray Forums]

Yeah, how many women do you think wanted to be a stripper when they were little? Very few do it because they want to, they do it because they think there's no other option. It is a choice, sure, but hardly a desire.

Almost NO one, male or female, gets the job they "wanted when they were little", fact of life, that hardly constitutes an argument against strip clubs.

As for the negative effect on men, who do you think ends up objectifying women? Who do you think ends up getting their mindset affected? You really think men will respect women as they pay to have them perform? I am a man, and though I stand against stuff like this, that doesn't mean I haven't made mistakes in that stand, so I'm not exactly ignorant on the subject; women are not being respected or even valued when observed for sexual pleasure. It's simply not how it goes. In that moment, even those who hate the objectification of women view them as nothing more than their route to pleasure. And I don't think anyone will claim that as a good thing.

This is pretty much thought policing. It's fine to not LIKE strip clubs or want to go to them yourselves(I personally don't plan on ever going), but to try and stop the ones where no one gets hurt and no crime is being committed because it leads to "bad thoughts" is stupid. As for strip clubs not "valuing" women, they sure as hell get paid a lot more(and are treated with more respect) then some teenage boy working at McDonalds and I don't see anyone protesting McDonalds. As far as objectification goes well that's pretty much how society works, it's hardly unique to strip clubs. Models, athletes, celebrities, they're all "objectified". Lebron James isn't getting paid for his personality or brain. Yet no one throws him pity parties or talks about how he's being "objectified".

Also, what's wrong with getting pleasure from looking at a naked person? I mean, it's perfectly acceptable to enjoy watching a person get the crap kicked out of them(see half of all the video games/movie/animes/cartoons ever made in the history of anything ever) but enjoying someone being naked(which doesn't actually involve someone, fictional or otherwise, being harmed in anyway)is wrong? Where's the logic in that?

Finally, and this is the main argument for strip clubs in my opinion, it's a transaction between CONSENTING ADULTS(most of the time anyway, obviously a non-consenting stripper is bad and should be stopped). Stopping consenting adults from doing things we don't personally like even if it doesn't hurt anyone is a horrifying slippery slope. It would be one thing if the only way a woman could get a job was being a stripper, but women have the same choices and options(for the most part) as a man with the added bonus of a job that pays relatively well for the amount of work/qualifications required(female strippers are still far more in demand than male strippers). How is this bad for women exactly? If they don't like it, they don't have to do it, and if males don't like it they don't have to go. Sure, it may be "bad" for them, though I find that assertion highly debatable, but it doesn't matter. It's their choice and their life, if they want to spend it like that then fine, as long as they don't hurt anyone else.

 

[Kelethor]

As a feminist, I'm never stepping foot in one of those places. That is to say, as someone with a basic respect for women.

You know, I was pretty damn sure that feminism was all about equal rights and the protection of women. at what point does going to strip club take away one's status as a feminist? I mean, these women are not being forced into this job, and they are certainly protected inside their place of work. Have you seen a bouncer? I suppose you haven't since you wont step foot in one of "those" places, but these men are huge, and are just waiting for you to do something the girls doesn't like so they can throw you out. The women who work in strip clubs aren't being forced into the profession, and they sure as hell aren't being discriminated against because of the fact that they are women.

So, Equal rights...check, Protection, Big check.

I mean no dis-respect sir or madame, but you and I seem to have different views on what feminism is.

 

[Biosophilogical]

I've never been to one (16) and the only time I will go to one is when my brother decides to drag me to one once I turn eighteen, though I will have to be dragged kicking and screaming and I will probably feel incredibly dirty and uncomfortable once there.

OT: I think the whole idea of stripping is just ... pathetic. I mean seriously, the people who go to these things are willing to throw away hard-earned money for a passing pleasure, and all of it driven by their primitive urges. I mean seriously, we are human beings (except V-rex, but that's besides the point), we are capable of building rocket ships and understanding reality, yet here we (well 'you' actually, as I'm not a part of that group) are, completely ruled by your biological urges. Because if you think about it, when you let those parts of your psyche control you, you are (for the given time period) losing 'you', the psychological attributes that make you special, and personally, whenever I think about doing something like giving up yourself it makes me feel cold and ... I'm not sure what the word it, it isn't depressed or scared, more like a dull yet pervading ache pulsing through my head.

So sure, you guys/gals can go look at women/men getting naked and I'll try my best not to judge, but to me (read: in my opinion/from my perspective), giving up everything that separates you from animals such as ants or mice for a little bit of sexualised pleasure is just ... it's pathetic and weak and all manner of creepy. Then of course there is the whole thing about it promoting a sexual culture. I mean, very few people even take sex seriously, they think that because they reduce the risk of having children that they should be having sex when they aren't ready for kids. I really don't see the reason behind it, howcan you risk what you cannot afford tolose, no matter how small the odds? And on top of that, how could you risk your entire future for a little bit of physical pleasure? And then they take any emotional connection out of sex and just fuck like a bunch of rabbits during mating season (which links back to my 'separation from animals' thing)

So yeah, I think strip clubs are bad because they cause people to sacrifice their humanity (and their money) and they are a component in the promotion of a sexualised culture in which romance is dead and sex is God. And before I get flamed for my beliefs, I'll just re-state This Is My Opinion

 

[AmayaOnnaOtaku]

It was my 22nd bday and my friend thought they would take me to a strip club. It was my first time in a strip club... and it was amazing!

It was just so much fun, what a laugh we had indeed.

There was also a little surprise for me as well because it was my birthday...I was called on stage, tied up & blindfolded, loads of ice was then put down my pants and then my ass was caned and signed with a permanent marker

Anyway, what a laugh that was...

Would you/have you been to a strip club?

Glad you had a good time! I WORK at a strip club

My Stepfather was a bouncer who a long time at a local strip joint. To the detractors. The girls in "I hit it with my ax" are either strippers or porn stars. Are they disgusting? NO! They are doing a job. No more than being a call center rep, a waitress, or any other job. As for the objectification BS, I had more harassment as a call center rep than any job I ever worked. These girls face it to but they have nice big bouncers to keep the little boys in line. I am all for "girl power" and I have no problem if a woman wants to strip or be an actress in a porno flick. No one forced her to take the job, and she is an adult, she can do as she damn well pleases.

 

[Dags90]

The majority of ants in any given colony are sterile, FYI. Have to nitpick at that one.

Having biological urges is not shameful. We're biological creatures, we reproduce sexually, we're social, and as heterotroph we have a desire to eat other things. You succumb to your various animal urges every day, you're doing it right now.

 

[00slash00]

i would never go to a strip club. when i was younger i thought it was stupid because i could have a much more satisfying evening, for free, looking at porn online. now i oppose it because i find it offensive and degrading. however, i am not saying that you have no right to go or that your a bad person for enjoying it. its one thing to have an opinion but its another thing entirely to force it down someones throat and tell someone theyre wrong for disagreeing with you.

i feel this is very similar to the debate about whether porn is empowering or degrading to womyn. there are valid points on both sides but personally, i dont agree with the practice but ill spare you my feminist rant. point is that while i have no doubt that many strippers are ashamed of what they do and probably pretend they're somewhere else when they're performing (as many porn stars have admitted to doing, as a defense mechanism), there are still a great deal of womyn who do enjoy what they do and earn a good living. i think freedom is the most important thing in the world and no one has any right to tell anyone they cant do something, unless it is causing harm to others. regardless of how i feel about it on a moral level, you have the right to do what you want with your own body. i find stripping to be extremely sexist, but the only thing that would be more sexist, would be to tell womyn what they are allowed to do with their own bodies

sorry this ended up being way more ranty than i meant it to

 

[Billion Backs]

Jesus, I love this website, but I never thought there would be such raging feminism from someone who is clearly about 13, I know girls who work in these places, they love their job, it's called empowerment. Look it up then try again deary.

Pretty much what he said. Got nothin' more to add.

On topic, I guess, congratulations, OP. Sounds like you've had fun.

 

[Lord Beautiful]

Jesus, I love this website, but I never thought there would be such raging feminism from someone who is clearly about 13, I know girls who work in these places, they love their job, it's called empowerment. Look it up then try again deary.

I'd like to thank you for that.

I do not say this sarcastically, either. I'm really glad someone else thinks like this.

 

[Panda Mania]

My friend tried to get me to go with him to a strip club once, because one of his friends was dancing. I decided to pass. I'd just end up feeling dirty. I mean, I don't try to be a prude or anything, but there's a limit to the extent to which I'm willing to objectify another human being, and that's just further than I'm willing to take it.

I salute your integrity, sir! :|

 

[Treeinthewoods]

Strips clubs rule, not because of the girls that work there but because of the various awesome girlfriends I've had take me to them for nights of unbridled drunken debauchery. My wife loves hanging out in strip clubs because she makes friends with a lot of the girls who seem to like having a woman around to chat with. I live in the state of legalized prostitution so a topless bar really is tame stuff to most of us.

And to all the "feminists" who are opposed to the strip club I hope you are equally opposed to any male dance revues (chippendales). After all if it's about equality you had better be against objectification of any person regardless of gender. I kind of wonder if any of you have ever known any strippers and talked to them about their work and how it makes them feel.

Also, read the book Ivy League Stripper.

 

[wolfister]

I have been a few times and really it is not that great I tend to just play pool and never get a dance or anything. Really it seems pretty pointless to me plus if I do talk to the girls I tend to get them to open up about how empty and horrid there lives are.

 

[Ham_authority95]

Eh, I've never been, and don't think I am missing out on much. I mean, I'd probably just be sitting there thinking to myself "oh, she's naked, that's cool." Porn is cheaper anyway.

I agree with you.

I don't want to share the cause of my current erection with other people anyway.

 

[nofear220]

Personally I think its disgusting, and I find the fact that you're bragging about it even more disgusting

Sorry i guess we know how to have fun.

Exactly, as soon as Im old enough Im hitting up a strip club lol. In Canadian strip clubs apparently if the girls like you, they let you touch them a bit

 

[Rutskarn]

Well excuse me for not thinking its ok to support the idea of woman getting naked for money. I will no longer be posting in this thread.

If a woman enjoys getting naked, she wants to get paid for it, and there are people who want to pay to watch that, why should she not be supported? Are you arguing that she shouldn't have the right to choose how and when she displays her own body?

That's the thing. It's hard to dispute that some women enjoy stripping. Hell, some women do it as a hobby on the internet--there are plenty of webcam strippers who don't charge for their services out there. And if that's what they want to do, that's their right. If you argue that there shouldn't be strippers, you are saying women shouldn't choose to strip--you are saying, in fact, that women should not be allowed to choose how they display their bodies. That's not feminism, that's regressive. That's burka territory.

Don't get me wrong, women's liberation isn't about sexing oneself up, but it is about being given free reign of your body and your lifestyle. If you like getting naked on stage, and other people like watching it, there is no victim here. And don't argue that strip clubs objectify women--people go to strip clubs because they don't expect random women to start grinding up against them. Heterosexual men, lesbian women, and bisexuals all like to look at lady parts. That's hard-wired. There's nothing wrong with that, it's not something we need to repress, and sating the urge to look at boobies doesn't mean one automatically sees women as nothing but. Looking at breasts at a strip club doesn't make someone view women as meat any more than sleeping with one's wife makes him view her as a prostitute.