So, If everyone with HIV/Aids dies,there would be no more HIV/Aids.

[krazykidd]

1) You forget that people sometimes are born. Meaning that it is not a closed system. Meaning the virus can propagate at its current rate indefinitely. Neither a natural dying out nor complete infection of the globe is realistic.

2) Africa. Can you blame them for not having rigorous screening and highly organized resistance to this public health hazard?

3) After a person is exposed and before they have sex, all we have to do is stop people from having sex. This is totally realistic. How likely do you think you are to stop everyone from having sex? Because if, as policy, you make exceptions, a percentage of those exceptions will spread the virus.

4) So basically we quarantine. That thing that always works in zombie movies. Of course, AIDS is different. It is harder to detect, and therefore less likely to be successfully quarantined.

5) A cure is unlikely? In Thailand, there has already been tests with a marginally successful HIV Vaccine. Gamers recently helped unlock a protein protease that will help stop the Virus. Remember in the Mid 90's when AIDS was a death sentence? We have come increadibly far in a short time. Africa's economy is growing surprisingly fast, a major obstacle for breaking out of the third world and into higher standard of living. A Cure is quite feasible.

1) no i didn't forget that , i mentionned it in my wall of text , and this is true , but more people are infected with it by sex than that are born with it.
2) africa is there place where people die the most ( and fastest) due to aids , so it kind of balances out. Children sadly, already have a low chance of survivng after birth, and with aids it's worst.
3) what you say here is true , but with this logic ,the virus could not be stoped, ever. Because even if there is a cure , some people will remain ignorant to the fact they have the virus and keep spreading it.
4)also true , doubt we could effectively quarentine such a large number of people , plus those that have no idea they have the virus.
5)i did hear about this, advancements are being made , but it will take another several decades or so to make a cure that works 100% of the time , and even more time to completly erraticate the virus , due to the fact that the vaccine will have to be distributed in a enourmous scale. Making vaccines is a really tough and long process. Hopefully though , this would not be the case and we find a cure inthe near future , it would be best for everyone.

 

[fix-the-spade]

So you're saying we don't need a cure, we need a Final Solution?

...what? Someone had to invoke Godwin's Law...

Well, the logical conclusion to a fatal, uncurable infection that spreads by transfer of bodily fluids is to kill and incinerate the bodies, possessions and physical samples of all infected to prevent further infection.

For eliminating a 'race' the final solution was a retarded idea, for stemming the spread of an infection it's... well... a solution. Cheaper than a cure too.

The question is, is that a serious or a parodic answer...

 

[drosalion]

I think theres a 4th option - that it remains kind of how it is today with it existing but not really growing or shrinking in population (unless theres something im unaware of)

 

[Spritzey]

This might be ever so slightly radical, but, everyone should get aids(thank you team america). Evolutionary and social factors would lead to the virus being much more manageable.

 

[lowkey_jotunn]

One major flaw here.

The virus came from somewhere.

Even if we could 100% destroy it, what's to stop it from coming back again?

 

[LarenzoAOG]

Spoiler

This much is obvious.If everyone that is attained with HIV/Aids dies,it would no longer exist.Though is way the virus(?) came to be is unknown (although there are theories), what is known is that it cannot developpe on it's own, it can only be transmitted through contact with blood, sperm or vaginal fluid.This means one of three things:

a)Eventually everyone with HIV/Aids will die, and so will the virus and it will never affect the human race again.
b)The Virus will spread more and more until one day (in the far future ) the majority of the earths population is afflicted with HIV/Aids, and it won't ever cease to exist unless a cure is found.
c)A cure is found, and the virus is erraticated.

Now out of the three possibilities i have listed here, option A is the most practical, C is the most likely and B is the least likely.

What's my point? In this day and age, with all the technology and knowledge we have, there is no reason for this virus to be spreading.We all know that we should practice safe sex to protect from STDs.We all know that we should get tested, when we change partners to reduce the chance of getting or spreading an STD.Therefor in theory,the virus should disappear ( or should have already disapeared) on it's own. Yet it isn't. It's still here and it's spreading as fast as ever.

I blame the stupidity of humanity for this. There is no reason,for the virus to continue to spread at the rate it is spreading,time should be the only factor determining the erradication of HIV/Aids.Yet it isn't, people (most unknowingly ) are still spreading it , due to their carelessness and ignorance. I do understand that some children are born with the virus due to their parents having it and giving it to them,which is unfortunate, but even though this is true,it is the responsibility of the people with the virus to stop it's spread, instead of waiting for a cure.

Another possibility is a purging ( round up and kill everyone that is HIV positive).But this is completly inhumane and immoral and i could never condone this. Even though it might argubly be whats best for the future of the human race, to erradicate the virus.

TL;DR: Do you think we should still spend time and resources to cure the HIV/Aids virus? When time should be the obvious way to erraticate it? By preventing the spread of the virus, the virus will die on it's own , with the last person that is infected.But Knowledge and responsibility is the main key to this method. Do you think it is even possible that this method would work?

AIDS didn't just pop up, lots of scientists think AIDS was originally spread to humans from a rhesus monkey or something, so even if everyone with AIDS dies it won't just go away.

Also AIDS isn't the bane of mankind, it can take years to die from AIDS, some people live long lives despite having AIDS, so just letting them die naturally is not the way, in that time they could accidently, or purposefully, spread the virus, and we can't just cull the infected.

Finding a cure is the best and only option, what you are suggesting is to ignore AIDS and hope it goes away, which won't work, unless we set up an AIDS colony and let the infected die in due time, which probably not even get rid of the problem.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Very little to add that hasn't been mentioned, but one of the reasons AIDS continues to spread is that new treatments mean that people who have it live longer, that is, they have more time to spread it to someone else.

Also, in Africa, if you have sex with a virgin, you are magically cured of AIDS. So lots of AIDS infected men rape little kid. Not sure how big this issue is, though, cause rape is very popular in Africa anyway, hard to say how many are due to that belief.

Oh, the same applies to albinos as well, apparently.

 

[chadachada123]

Truthfully, if we don't eradicate it eventually, I believe we'll someday reach option B, but this won't necessarily be a bad thing.

By that point, we'll have the technology to allow a person to spend their entire life having the HIV virus but never contracting AIDS.

Of course, I *wish* that we could fully eradicate or contain the virus, but this isn't smallpox we're talking about here, and not as simple to spot as that or polio (which should have been eradicated but hasn't been because of human stupidity and a simple lack of funds).

Additionally, we should start *heavily* encouraging people with HIV to not have sex with people that don't have it, and that you an irredeemably massive dick if you have sex with someone without telling them.

Finally, one thing that many people don't know is that your odds of getting HIV from sex is incredibly small, and far smaller than most other STDs. Vaginal sex with an infected person, even if it's vaginally receptive, transmits the disease a mere ONE IN A THOUSAND encounters. A one-night stand realistically won't ever give you HIV. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1881672/

 

[slyywiskers]

I'm just going to sit and time how long it takes for some stupid twat to say bombing Africa is the answer.

Oh my god, EVERYONE I have a brilliant plan! We bomb- oh.

EDIT: I was actually ninja'd on that, wow

 

[Terminate421]

Have you ever stepped out of your house?

I now have rootbeer/saliva on my screen. Thanks.

How are we going to stop people who have Aids/Hiv, yet have one night stands like its their last day on earth?

 

[SidingWithTheEnemy]

What? You're kidding me right? RIGHT?

What's next? We sterilize all those people having increased probability of giving birth to children with a down syndrome?

We drive the horde of unclean and infectous kids with influenca (aka flu) in a pen and let them rot there hoping we will never get a common cold again?

We don't treat expensive head traumas anymore because anyone who is too stupid to get hit in the head (that's the part where the brain is alledegly located) needs to get out of the way of the genepool as quickly as possible...

Where do you stop? The sky is the limit I suppose...
Let's have genetics and viruses decide who shall live and who not.

What if you would get infected by AIDS even if only because of someone elses fault? Ever thought about that?

 

[The Funslinger]

You remind me of the main villain in the teen series "Maximum Ride." She tried the exact same thing, only it involved flying wolf robots.

Ahhh, the memories.

Well, obviously that would validate any morally disreputable action.

 

[-|-]

I say we nuke AIDS countries from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

 

[RJ Dalton]

Yeah, and if everyone with an appendix died, we'd have no more appendixes.

Also, no more people, because everybody has an appendix.

 

[saintdane05]

I say we nuke AIDS countries from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

So in other worlds, kill all the humans. Huh. Makes sense.

 

[dfcrackhead]

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I am glad to see that this thread didn't go how I thought it would. I thought you were going to suggest genocide...

OT: We need a cure despite time stamping it out on it's own just in case in comes back somehow. We need a cure for everything really and stop taking the easy way out, like thinking "Oh if we wait, the deadly disease will just kill everyone with it and go away"

 

[masher]

While we're at it, lets kill all those starving children so we won't have to worry about the solving children anymore.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

I'm just going to sit and time how long it takes for some stupid twat to say bombing Africa is the answer.

Didn't take that long did it?

 

[krazykidd]

While we're at it, lets kill all those starving children so we won't have to worry about the solving children anymore.

If you read ANYTHING i wrote , you would have notice i didn't say anything about killig anyone.

 

[krazykidd]

Yeah, and if everyone with an appendix died, we'd have no more appendixes.

Also, no more people, because everybody has an appendix.

Wait what? Are you talking about appendicitis? Because thats not contagious from human to human .i mean seriously, what?