So I'm going to try and stop saying "gay" and "fag"
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I once used it in an "that's so stupid" kind of sense in front of a very outgoing gay person whom I didn't know very well, and they absolutely ripped into me. I tried to explain that I don't use it as an insult towards her, but she was adamant I was subconciouly hating towards gay people. So I commend you for your effort, and I just might do the same. I'm a shy person, so being yelled at was horrible. Regardless of how you intend to say it, it will inevitably offend someone.
I find myself using 'gay' as an insult as well. Normally i don't have a problem with myself saying it, not that I have a problem with gay people, not at all, but i simply can't be bothered to put effort into changing my swears. I do feel bad when that 'insult' escapes my mouth in the pressence of one of my friends who is/has a family member that's gay.
Oh. So your intentions are completely altruistic. You're trying to broaden the horizons of gay people who feel attacked by these words, and thus to make them better people, because clearly they are the ones who need to work at that rather than the people who are taking terms that very much do apply to homosexual people and using them as insults.TheNamlessGuy said:
Which leads me back to the question, why are these words worth defending? Why are they so important that gay people should be expected to suffer through the transitional period of its meaning's evolution? What specific concepts do these words symbolize that their removal forms a crippling blow to vocabulary?TheNamlessGuy said:
Try and add "Retard/Retarded" to that list as well. That would be another one I would love to see gone (one of the best things Obama ever did, striking that word from government records).
As for me personally, I cuss in a very old-school way. If I get mad at something in a game, I will say "What the hell was that?" Or if children/my parents are around "What the heck was that?"
As for me personally, I cuss in a very old-school way. If I get mad at something in a game, I will say "What the hell was that?" Or if children/my parents are around "What the heck was that?"
So you're gonna finally stop using homophobic and hate speech?
Congrats! Only 150 years after the 14th amendment.(The law will be applied equally to everyone)
Unless you're using Gay as happy, fag as a cigarette, queer as curious, ***** as in armored is damaged etc.
HOMOnyms are amazing. =D
Congrats! Only 150 years after the 14th amendment.(The law will be applied equally to everyone)
Unless you're using Gay as happy, fag as a cigarette, queer as curious, ***** as in armored is damaged etc.
HOMOnyms are amazing. =D
Glad to hear it! I've used the phrase "that's so gay" before, but it felt weird, so I stopped doing it. Never been quite sure why people use the phrase, either.
I won't; it has a punch I find appropriate for the situation when used as an expletive. "Gay", "******", and the like have become synonymous with "Something just happened that I didn't appreciate!" to most people; they usually don't even refer to gay people, and speak of no offense toward gay people.
Incidentally, this was one of the few times South Park makes sense; most people don't use it the way it used to be, and when it doesn't apply to gay people, it's a perfectly serviceable word.
Incidentally, this was one of the few times South Park makes sense; most people don't use it the way it used to be, and when it doesn't apply to gay people, it's a perfectly serviceable word.
Thank you.TheNamlessGuy said:
For myself, I've had to watch my language when it comes to cursing as well. Most of the words and phrases that worked their way into my vocabulary are sexual in nature, and of those, most are homophobic. I don't take too much blame for that--when you're eight years old, who thinks about whether calling someone a cocksucker is being fair to an oppressed minority?--but it is something I have to keep in mind, and it's hard. When it comes to expressing contempt and revulsion, few categories of words convey like sexually based insults.
While I say fuck a lot when playing a stressful game, I have yet to call someone gay or a fag. I don't use microphones though and I generally don't game online without friends. I guess I'm just more of a chill gamer than most, apparently.
I'd say that's very considerate of you. ^_^ Though I would posit that it's important to remember that it's the context in which these words are used that cause offence. My brother uses these words quite frequently in a similar fashion and while it makes me slightly uneasy at times, I know he isn't like that and doesn't have any problem with people further along from him on the Kinsey scale, so I'm not going to make a thing of it any time he uses those words; as long as he isn't using them in a bigoted way. Still, good to see you aren't adding to the kind of bile that get's spouted on XBL and the like, I wish you well with that.