So I've been banned (LoL thread)

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Dandark

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Im sorry dude but if im quickly filing through Tribunal reports in the mood that I will be in due to having gone through tribunal reports and I saw your case? I would assume your feeding.

It's really rare that people have a bad enough game to get something like 20 deaths in 30 mins plus the fact you were arguing in chat telling other people how to build their champs(In a bad way might I add) then yeah, I would assume that you had a bad game and got annoyed enough to start trolling or something.

The other games don't help you too much either, one of the main things to look out for when someone is reported for feeding are weird items since they usaully buy silly item sets when trolling. Your Mordekaiser build looked fine, nobody would have had any suspicions because of that, however your Morgana and Singed builds are really close to what you would expect people trolling to build.

Im not going to say that you need to build a certain way or get banned but stacking expensive and rare items like Archangels will usaully make people assume your a troll, especially on someone like Singed(That isn't a good idea btw).


I don't mean to say you deserve your ban, you seem like an alright guy and probably don't deserve it but I can easily see how people in the Tribunal will have looked at your case and decided that you were trolling.
 

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Dandark said:
Im sorry dude but if I'm quickly filing through Tribunal reports in the mood that I will be in due to having gone through tribunal reports and I saw your case? I would assume you're feeding.
A problem which has led to my being in this situation.

Dandark said:
Im not going to say that you need to build a certain way or get banned but stacking expensive and rare items like Archangels will usaully make people assume your a troll, especially on someone like Singed(That isn't a good idea btw).
You'll note how the games with that build are the better ones- and for good reason. With it, you're pretty much a lighting tank/nuke. I would have thrown in some spell vamp to put him over the top, but that game was rather hopeless.
 

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AtheistGuy said:
Dandark said:
Im sorry dude but if I'm quickly filing through Tribunal reports in the mood that I will be in due to having gone through tribunal reports and I saw your case? I would assume you're feeding.
A problem which has led to my being in this situation.

Dandark said:
Im not going to say that you need to build a certain way or get banned but stacking expensive and rare items like Archangels will usaully make people assume your a troll, especially on someone like Singed(That isn't a good idea btw).
You'll note how the games with that build are the better ones- and for good reason. With it, you're pretty much a lighting tank/nuke. I would have thrown in some spell vamp to put him over the top, but that game
I would say that without resistances the health isn't enough to let you tank effectivly but I don't want to derail the thread into how Singed is the best troll ever and everyone who play's him is awesome.

The thing is Archangel is not used too much now so it's a rare and expensive items, when someone sees you stacking them on a mage they would be suspicious, stacking them on an AP bruiser/tank will just convince people you are trolling. It's like when you see someone who just builds one pair of each boot or only buys wards the whole game, they will assume you are trolling.

It seems you were not the annoying trolling **** that those who judged your case must have thought you were so sorry to hear about your ban =/

Have you tried appealing to Riot that you were banned unfairly? I hear that has worked for some people before, the tribunal isn't perfect so Riot has been known to remove bans.
 

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Dandark said:
Have you tried appealing to Riot that you were banned unfairly? I hear that has worked for some people before, the tribunal isn't perfect so Riot has been known to remove bans.
How would I go about doing this?
 

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I've been in DotA 2 games where I've had 0 kills and 4 deaths and been called a feeder for it.
Despite being a pure support Dazzle and having 32 assists and kept wards up all game.
People are fucking stupid, man.
 

Dandark

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AtheistGuy said:
Dandark said:
Have you tried appealing to Riot that you were banned unfairly? I hear that has worked for some people before, the tribunal isn't perfect so Riot has been known to remove bans.
How would I go about doing this?
I am not too sure as I nor anyone I know has ever been banned but I think it involves going onto the Riot support forums and posting a topic asking them to reconsider your ban, if a Red(Riot member) notices it and looks then they may end up removing the ban although it is unlikely. If it's just a short 1 week ban or something then they may just let it end.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/forumdisplay.php?f=41

I think it's the tribunal sub forum here that you can make ban appeals, I am not completely sure if it work out for you or not but if it's a long ban and you want to try get it appeals then maybe it will work.
 

Jandau

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You don't get banned for one game. In order to get banned, you need to be a repeat offender and even then it's a temporary ban. Granted, you might be a case that slipped through the cracks, but by and large, getting banned in LoL means you have to be repeatedly reported by a fair number of players over a certain time period, need to be found guilty in multiple Tribunal cases, receive (and ignore) warnings, the whole thing is reviewed by someone at Riot, and even then the first ban is temporary.

I'm betting that the game you posted was only one of the games you were reported for, maybe the straw that broke the camel's back, but if you really got banned that means you were a douche in quite a few games...
 

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Jandau said:
You don't get banned for one game. In order to get banned, you need to be a repeat offender and even then it's a temporary ban. Granted, you might be a case that slipped through the cracks, but by and large, getting banned in LoL means you have to be repeatedly reported by a fair number of players over a certain time period, need to be found guilty in multiple Tribunal cases, receive (and ignore) warnings, the whole thing is reviewed by someone at Riot, and even then the first ban is temporary.

I'm betting that the game you posted was only one of the games you were reported for, maybe the straw that broke the camel's back, but if you really got banned that means you were a douche in quite a few games...
The only other warning and/or ban I've gotten was from LeaveBuster. This was back in the peak of the summer days when my room was so hot, my comp would shut down to avoid damage. Good for the hardware, bad for the matches I was playing at the time. Aside from this, the ban came suddenly and for no other apparent reason.
 

SlaveNumber23

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Jandau said:
You don't get banned for one game. In order to get banned, you need to be a repeat offender and even then it's a temporary ban. Granted, you might be a case that slipped through the cracks, but by and large, getting banned in LoL means you have to be repeatedly reported by a fair number of players over a certain time period, need to be found guilty in multiple Tribunal cases, receive (and ignore) warnings, the whole thing is reviewed by someone at Riot, and even then the first ban is temporary.

I'm betting that the game you posted was only one of the games you were reported for, maybe the straw that broke the camel's back, but if you really got banned that means you were a douche in quite a few games...
I agree with this, as shitty and flawed as the system may be they do not ban you for a single game. Hypothetically, even if you were intentionally feeding and trolling and insulting your teammates and it was perfectly clear from the chat log, you aren't going to get banned for just one game of that.

Additionally, come on 20 deaths? In all my over 2000 games of LoL I don't think I've ever seen someone rack up 20 deaths in a single game outside of custom games, and I've seen some terrible players in my time.

Someone in the chat says "2-20 at 18" now you might be able to say they are referring to level 18, however the log says that the maximum level you reached was 15 so that is out of the question. Assuming the person was not lying, you had 20 deaths 18 minutes into the game, meaning you died on average every 54 seconds. From this I find it extremely hard to believe that this result could be produced unintentionally, you almost HAD to have been just walking into the enemy and quickly getting yourself killed that entire 18 mins, given the time it takes to respawn and walk across the map to the enemy.

Lets assume that the person who said "2-20 at 18" was lying. We know for sure that the game lasted 31 minutes and 43 seconds and over that period you accumulated 20 deaths. This means that you were dying on average every 95.15 seconds. It is still very hard to believe that you achieved this unintentionally, but of course it is possible. I'd like to analyze further by calculating how much time you spent respawning but unfortunately I can't find information telling me how the champion respawn times are calculated.

I'm not accusing you of anything here but to the outside eye, including Riot and the reviewers of your case on the Tribunal, the evidence weighs heavily against you. I'm sorry, I can't say that you intentionally fed but given the facts from the game/chat log I have to say that had I been reviewing your case I would have clicked 'Punish' too.

The log says that your punishment was a 'Time Ban', is this really worth appealing? Just wait it out, even if you are innocent.
 

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AtheistGuy said:
Jandau said:
You don't get banned for one game. In order to get banned, you need to be a repeat offender and even then it's a temporary ban. Granted, you might be a case that slipped through the cracks, but by and large, getting banned in LoL means you have to be repeatedly reported by a fair number of players over a certain time period, need to be found guilty in multiple Tribunal cases, receive (and ignore) warnings, the whole thing is reviewed by someone at Riot, and even then the first ban is temporary.

I'm betting that the game you posted was only one of the games you were reported for, maybe the straw that broke the camel's back, but if you really got banned that means you were a douche in quite a few games...
The only other warning and/or ban I've gotten was from LeaveBuster. This was back in the peak of the summer days when my room was so hot, my comp would shut down to avoid damage. Good for the hardware, bad for the matches I was playing at the time. Aside from this, the ban came suddenly and for no other apparent reason.
While the whole LeaverBuster might have factored into it, I still maintain that you didn't get banned for that one game. You need to have been repeatedly reported in multiple games (10+) by multiple players over a prolonged period of time.

I understand that you probably feel you've been wronged and that you didn't do anything bad, at least outside a few isolated incidents, but you likely did. And not only that, but a majority of the people reviewing your case(s) thought so as well, voting you guilty. And then the person reviewing those votes likely agreed with them.

Maybe you rage too much? Maybe you get into arguments frequently? There could be any number of things. But I know, by my own example and the examples of some of my friends that the system isn't so strict that you get banned over a single game.
 

The Wykydtron

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Meh, I was getting banned all over the place when my internet was deciding to die too frequently and people were too report happy.

Seriously, I got two 7 days bans in a row and all the smaller bans before that. Things have quieted down now though... Somehow.

I do like how Leaverbuster basically says "Your internet sucks? Buy better internet then!"

I've never been banned for having a bad game though. My bad games are usually 1/5 by 20 minutes or something similar. I have the worst games when I have to go AD Carry if Ezreal isn't avaliable. Ugh, playing MF or Vayne requires good positioning and not running into an entire team. That is just impossible for me to deal with without a 15 second teleport to bail me out.
 

Dandark

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The Wykydtron said:
Meh, I was getting banned all over the place when my internet was deciding to die too frequently and people were too report happy.

Seriously, I got two 7 days bans in a row and all the smaller bans before that. Things have quieted down now though... Somehow.

I do like how Leaverbuster basically says "Your internet sucks? Buy better internet then!"

I've never been banned for having a bad game though. My bad games are usually 1/5 by 20 minutes or something similar. I have the worst games when I have to go AD Carry if Ezreal isn't avaliable. Ugh, playing MF or Vayne requires good positioning and not running into an entire team. That is just impossible for me to deal with without a 15 second teleport to bail me out.
I must horrible not being able to play Easy mode, not having that free flash or a high amount of power throughout all stages of the game hey XD

Don't take me seriously, im just joking because I main Ashe as an AD carry so I have nothing to save me, no net, no dash, no teleport, no stealth, nothing si U always take any chance I can to rag on ezreal.

It does suck that you can get banned for bad internet but I understand why they do it, after all if your internet doesn't let you play then you are also ruining it for the other 4 people, it sucks but I see why they do it.
 

lRookiel

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You didn't deserve that.

The Wykydtron said:
Meh, I was getting banned all over the place when my internet was deciding to die too frequently and people were too report happy.

Seriously, I got two 7 days bans in a row and all the smaller bans before that. Things have quieted down now though... Somehow.

I do like how Leaverbuster basically says "Your internet sucks? Buy better internet then!"

I've never been banned for having a bad game though. My bad games are usually 1/5 by 20 minutes or something similar. I have the worst games when I have to go AD Carry if Ezreal isn't avaliable. Ugh, playing MF or Vayne requires good positioning and not running into an entire team. That is just impossible for me to deal with without a 15 second teleport to bail me out.
Tell me about it, I lag out at least once a game. it's a pain in the arse. >.<
 

SlaveNumber23

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Dandark said:
I main Ashe as an AD carry so I have nothing to save me, no net, no dash, no teleport, no stealth, nothing
You mean apart from the massive stun and the permanent, sometimes aoe slow? :p
 

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SlaveNumber23 said:
Dandark said:
I main Ashe as an AD carry so I have nothing to save me, no net, no dash, no teleport, no stealth, nothing
You mean apart from the massive stun and the permanent, sometimes aoe slow? :p
The length of the stun is based on how far the arrow travels so if they get near you then it lasts a second at best, not that great sadly.

I will concede the slow though, I do have that.
 

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League bans are ridiculous. I've seen someone banned for playing against the meta, IE not buying specific items on a certain hero or playing them in a different role. Riot handles this kind of shit quite poorly. On the bright side, now you can start playing Dota 2, an infinitely better game where you won't get banned for no reason at all.
 

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You should never stack Archangels staff. They don't stack and it says so in their description. But I would still have pardoned you. Also even if they did stack it wouldn't be worth it. Health alone will not save you.
 

SlaveNumber23

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Dandark said:
SlaveNumber23 said:
Dandark said:
I main Ashe as an AD carry so I have nothing to save me, no net, no dash, no teleport, no stealth, nothing
You mean apart from the massive stun and the permanent, sometimes aoe slow? :p
The length of the stun is based on how far the arrow travels so if they get near you then it lasts a second at best, not that great sadly.

I will concede the slow though, I do have that.
Yeah but compare with other AD carries? They would only dream of having a stun let alone a stun and a permanent slow. Even only a 1 second stun can make a huge difference and save your ass, often it gives you enough time flash away and/or volley a slow at your pursuers. Plus you can throw a bird to scout for you. The point of Ashe is not to 'escape' out of danger but to make sure the situation never arises when you will have to 'escape'.