So just how "America, F**k Yeah!!!" is Assassins Creed 3?

[NewYork_Comedian]

I just want to know in order to mentally prepare myself for the game as I just got it for Christmas. I saw a split second of one trailer where Conner stabs a bluecoat in the stomach with a bayonet before shooting his friend with the same gun. Is this similar to Revelations, where after you capture an area Ottoman Janissarys come in and you can kill them even though they are on your side? Or, in yes or no format, do you have missions where you go around stabbing the rebels?

 

[Zhukov]

Actually, not very.

Make no mistake, you will spend the vast majority of your time killing redcoats and Conner is very definitely on the side of the colonial rebels.

However, it doesn't get all in-your-face triumphant about it. I don't want to spoil anything, but there are some developments late in the game that are... err, not exactly flattering of the Americans.

 

[Savber]

I thought it was more of a "screw white people" than anything else if you want to be totally honest.

 

[Abomination]

I found Conner to be very "Oh, alright. Fine!" when it came to helping the colonists. They were mostly people he lived alongside and that is why they had his allegiance but he saw the hypocrisy of many of their ideals.

Spoiler: Significant Attitude Changes Spoiler

For awhile he was a very pro George Washington but after George made his task of protecting his village difficult and authorizing attacks on Native tribes he changes his opinion. Washington becomes a necessary annoyance or "lesser of two evils" to Conner.

It isn't so much as pro-America but still has a very strong anti-British vibe. Conner does seem very merciless against a nation being unwittingly and unwillingly manipulated by the Templars - it also seems the amount of manipulation the Templars have over Britain is minimal at best.

 

[Ironbat92]

Not really. You more or less fight on both sides. Don't go into it thinking it will be something like Call of Duty or Battlefield.

 

[Al-Bundy-da-G]

Why is it everyone always assumes that just because a game has characters that are either American or interacting with Americans they will always without a doubt be running around waving the American flag screaming out the lyrics to "Star Spangled Banner" while uppercutting a Nazi and eating a cheeseburger?

That's really starting to annoy me. Especially when it's seen how Americans really are.

Edit: I take it all back. I put this in and 2 hours later as soon as I hit new world soil I was running through the streets screaming "AMERICAAA" at the top of my voice killing red-coats.

So... Yeah...

Anyway if you want a video this is pretty much the same thing I did only funnier.

 

[Vausch]

Why is it everyone always assumes that just because a game has characters that are either American or interacting with Americans they will always without a doubt be running around waving the American flag screaming out the lyrics to "Star Spangled Banner" while uppercutting a Nazi and eating a cheeseburger?

That's really starting to annoy me. Especially when it's seen how Americans really are.

Mostly because that's become the standard appeal for many of the gun-wank games that feature America as the heroes of the world because everybody else's country can't take care of themselves and there is a socialist/communist regime trying to take over or a terrorist plot because anybody that doesn't live in America hates America.

At least that's the vibe I get from the most popular ones.

 

[gigastar]

Really the only reason ive come across to kill nothing but Redcoats is that they tend to be working either directly or indirectly for the Templars and have a high tendancy to get in the way of my Templar stabbing.

And it happens that assisting the colonials weakens the Templars by forcing them to devote more resources on trying to put them down again.

And Connor doesnt seem to give 2 shits about what the colonials want unless they offer something that can lead him to the next Templar on his hit list.

 

[NemotheElvenPanda]

Far from it. All of the founders come off as morally grey hypocrites with noble if opportunistic ideals, and I can't shake off the feel that they're only using Connor and his goal on keeping his people safe to better their own agenda. However, the British have little to no redeeming qualities despite history saying otherwise, though that has more to do with them being on the side of the Templars than anything else. It's still a very gray game, but I wish that the Loyalists were given more development beyond the "Evil Empire" trope.

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

Why is it everyone always assumes that just because a game has characters that are either American or interacting with Americans they will always without a doubt be running around waving the American flag screaming out the lyrics to "Star Spangled Banner" while uppercutting a Nazi and eating a cheeseburger?

That's really starting to annoy me. Especially when it's seen how Americans really are.

In the case of ACIII i think it's more because it takes place during the American civil war and has you rubbing shoulders with practically everyone who is considered historically important from that time, i.e. Thomas Jefferson, George WAshington etc. Myself being non-American it's easy for me to think the game will be like "Whoa, weren't these guys great and revolutionary and badass", as it usually seems to be the case when americans are talking about their important historical figures.

I haven't played the actual game, but it would seem that is not the case, which is good.

 

[Al-Bundy-da-G]

Why is it everyone always assumes that just because a game has characters that are either American or interacting with Americans they will always without a doubt be running around waving the American flag screaming out the lyrics to "Star Spangled Banner" while uppercutting a Nazi and eating a cheeseburger?

That's really starting to annoy me. Especially when it's seen how Americans really are.

Mostly because that's become the standard appeal for many of the gun-wank games that feature America as the heroes of the world because everybody else's country can't take care of themselves and there is a socialist/communist regime trying to take over or a terrorist plot because anybody that doesn't live in America hates America.

At least that's the vibe I get from the most popular ones.

Name one game besides Metal Wolf Chaos that fucking screams America. The MW games switched between a coop UN task force and a group of professional acting US Special forces groups unsuccessfully preventing a nuclear attack and then dealing with the aftermath of being framed for the attack. Medal of Honor was about a SEAL team performing illegal operations in Afghanistan which makes America the criminal in that situation which is acknowledged, Battlefield 3 was about an arms dealer/CIA informant using his power and money to further conflict between the middle east and America. With the US realizing the mistake too late and looking like a bunch of jackasses.

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

To be honest,

In my perception - not at all.

It's got more of that ICP vibe going. F**K the world. F**K everyone. F**K everything. I'm a killer aboriginal native American (DON'TCHA DARE CALL ME INDIAN YOU WHITEBREAD M*****F****R!), and it's my job to kill you and a thousand other unlucky souls that happen to cross my path.

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[talker]

I seem to spend a lot of time

-killing redcoats to get to Templars
-killing redcoats because i like walking behind them, stabbing the last guy and moving on so that I start with the drummer and end with the captain.
-killing revolutionaries when i can;'t find any redcoats
-sinking redcoat vessels
-protecting revolutionary vessels/working alongside revolutionary vessels
-doing chores for the revolutionaries, such as helping them out at valley forge.

but then again i haven't finished it yet, so this might change in the future

 

[Insanity72]

One massive tip for AC3, is take your time, Explore, do the homestead missions and all the other side quest stuff. I never did and was rather disappointed. So I went back and played it again and it was much, much funner.

 

[Ryotknife]

Why is it everyone always assumes that just because a game has characters that are either American or interacting with Americans they will always without a doubt be running around waving the American flag screaming out the lyrics to "Star Spangled Banner" while uppercutting a Nazi and eating a cheeseburger?

That's really starting to annoy me. Especially when it's seen how Americans really are.

Mostly because that's become the standard appeal for many of the gun-wank games that feature America as the heroes of the world because everybody else's country can't take care of themselves and there is a socialist/communist regime trying to take over or a terrorist plot because anybody that doesn't live in America hates America.

At least that's the vibe I get from the most popular ones.

(P.S. this isnt directed at you, but at the subject of American wankfest)

nearly very game that people label an American wankfest involves America gettings its ass kicked, screwing around until some other nation comes in to solve their problem, and/or turns out to be the villian.

and yet...these games are apparently "american wankfests." Because...you know we effing LOVE having nearly every video game display US in a negative light. It is true that we are not VILLIANIZED as much as say....the middle east (and honestly, that train ran out of steam years ago), but we are often displayed as the most incompetent people to ever grace this planet....woooo pride! I would say there are more games which has an evil american organization than an evil german or russian villian. Yet, apparently we have it "good" on the image front.

I cant think of a single game that shows US in a good light. Bad company is probably the closest. Yea they are idiots, but at least they are funny.

 

[TheScientificIssole]

Not really. You more or less fight on both sides. Don't go into it thinking it will be something like Call of Duty or Battlefield.

Call Of Duty? You mean the games where the Americans die quickly and the same two Brits continue to save the day? Or the one's where you play as an American character and a foreign character?

 

[Nomanslander]

Well, this isn't today's America, remember. America didn't become so gong-ho star spangled banner until after WW2 when we self proclaimed ourselves the saviors of the world by defeating the Nazis (even though Soviet Union was the one that played the biggest part in doing that; 30 million casualties on the eastern front, mind you).

It's a different time with a country colony having a different sense of itself.

This isn't even the America of the 19th century that created the doctrine of "Manifest Destiny" which gave us a the sense we had a God given right to steal more land from the natives and Mexicans, and save them of their savage ways with small pox and the Gatling guns.

This is Revolutionary America, where we did nothing but hate on the British, hate on the British, and complain about how much we be hatin' on the British. The idea of America tomorrow was nothing but a Frenchmen's (Jean Jacques Rousseau) dream.

 

[Extra-Ordinary]

Like a lot of people already said, it's pretty laid-back with the whole patriotism thing.
But there is a metric TON of Revolutionary War events thrown in your face.
"But it's the Revolutionary War, isn't it? Shouldn't there be events like that?"
Yes, but some of them really didn't require Connor to be there, like...

Spoiler: I figured some *may* consider this a spoiler

Connor's at the signing of the Declaration of Independence but he doesn't do anything while he's there. It's like he went there just so he can say "Yep, I was there."