So, just watched Frozen, I think the hype backlash has died down, what do you guys think of it?

[GabeZhul]

Well, interestingly, according to some people it's sexist, apparently.

Oh please. It's the internet in 2014. Post a picture of a toaster, and I guarantee that someone somewhere will tell you that toaster is sexist and you are sexist too for posting it. -.-'

As for the OP, I think it's a decent movie. Great animation, likable characters, two twists at the ending (and at least one of them was pretty clever, the other is more of an ass-pull IMHO) and Let It Go is the ultimate earworm power-ballad.
On the other hand I was annoyed as intercourse by the constant musical numbers that added nothing to the experience (save for Let It Go, too bad by today people are probably grown tired of it), some issues regarding Elsa's power levels and some pacing issues.

Overall I liked it. Not as much as Tangled (for which I have a bit of a personal affinity for anyways), but it was a well-crafted and fun movie.

Then of course we have the whole hype and hype backlash surrounding it, something I had practically zero idea about until a few weeks ago the Nostalgia Critic dedicated and entire musical parody to how overused and hyped Let It Go was. So yeah, since I generally don't give a flying copulation about fan communities and hype to begin with, so I sadly cannot say anything constructive on that front.

 

[Reaper195]

Started watching it. Got bored fifteen minutes in. I stopped liking musicals when I stopped being a child.

 

[Valkrex]

I really REALLY liked this film. Easily one of my top ten movies of all time. I just remember seeing it Christmas Eve, and my buddy and I seemed to be the only college students, aside from one other pair, in the theater with the rest of the occupants being younger children with their parents. And then "the thing" happened.

Spoiler: The Thing - SPOILER

When Hans reveals that he's actually the backstabbing villain and utters the now famous "If only there was someone out there who loved you" line.

I have NEVER heard an ENTIRE theater give a gasp that loud, and I must say it caught me COMPLETELY off guard. I think the other people near our age actually almost got kicked out as they stood up, and I am NOT making this up, began to shout "YOU MOTHER-FU-" before remembering there were kids around and they sat back down.

A quality story that moves away from a lot of the standard Disney tropes, some rather excellent musical numbers, AMAZING animation (seriously, look at the snow at least and TRY to tell me that its not mind-blowing), very well done twists, and great voice acting came together to create a film that I am quite fond of.

 

[Avalanche91]

It was ok. It was a fun movie. I personally prefer Tangled over Frozen, but that's just me. Anna is a likeable protagonist, Kristoff provided good foil for her, animation is really good and most of the songs are pretty decent. Olaf could have been incredibly annoying but only ended up being slightly annoying.

Just baffled by the pretty contrived climax which I wont talk about because how do I spoiler (not so much the act of love that bothers me but more the all core characters just happen to find that one place) and the fact that Elsa somehow refuses to just sit down with Anna and explain why she has been such a frosty ***** (pun intended)

Also, and this is just my personal grievance, but why can't Disney promoters ever get the tone of the movie correct in their campaigns?! Tangled was promoted like a faffing about comedy that reminded me more of Shrek then anything, but turned out to have very little to do with that. Frozen was promoted like a completely bland adventure movie, which again was not the damn focus.
Brave (Pixar, same difference) was promoted like the story of a independent girl in a time where such behavior was frowned upon and did not feature a single goddamn bear

 

[Amir Kondori]

I quite enjoyed it. Almost as good as the classics, which for me are Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and The Lion King.
I loved the fake out, I loved the focus on family, and I loved that it didn't need to end in a wedding.

 

[Amir Kondori]

Started watching it. Got bored fifteen minutes in. I stopped liking musicals when I stopped being a child.

That is so sad.

 

[Goro]

Well, interestingly, according to some people it's sexist, apparently.

Oh dear god that thread was just aggravating.

I hope you don't mind, but I got bored and put your post through several levels of Google Translate. This was the result.

My wife saw it in theaters with a friend and loved it. Consequently, I heard "Let it Go" a LOT for a while, as everyone and their dog reposted various renditions of the song. Once I actually saw it though, I must admit that I was impressed. Disney has finally stepped a bit outside their traditional mold and made a movie about the love of siblings, instead of a silly "true love" fairy tale again. It's funny and cute, and the music is quite catchy, so I give it a thumbs up. Plus, my 3 year-old son sang "Let it go" while he was sitting on the toilet trying to poop, so that instantly made my day.

"I saw my wife and watch a movie with friends and their lovers. Because I hear "to" a lot of time, each dog is to buy different versions of the song. When I saw this, and I will admit that I was very impressed. Disney finally step out of tradition and make a movie about the love we have for you, but this is not a "true" story. It's funny and interesting, and the music is one, so I can give a big finger. Also, this song, 3-year-old son, "Let him go," while sitting on the toilet trying to shit, so as soon as I did today."

I am easily amused.

Aaaaand I know what I'm doing on night shift tonight..... Thank you good Sir, for this my new time waster...

O/T, I saw it with my 6 year old daughter who loved it, and I was very impressed. I think someone from Marvel had an influence in the whole 'love yourself first, mutant' thing. Happy to buy the dolls for a change.

 

[1066]

Decent show, but that's more or less where it stops.

It's trying to be a musical, but there are too few songs for that and not enough to be a movie with musical numbers. Let it go is still awesome, though, even if it has run thin in the aftermath.

The second act runs aground for a while (mostly with the trolls and I can't help but feel Olaf is completely superfluous) and while I like the idea of the finale, the entire thing relies on a face-heel-turn that really is unfair (though that may be the point, it's still bad storytelling) and a really stupid move by a character who had to have planned/controlled his emotions carefully up to this point. Because no one will ever suspect that he was lying about her dying in his arms if they find her huddled near the door, and of course nothing will try to enter this room between now and whenever she dies.

Spoiler

For those wondering, the situation was stable until Hans and co. tried to execute Elsa. It was only them doing this that made things worse and prompted Kristof and Olaf to return, which is the only thing that got Anna out of the room. Waiting the hour or so until Anna died would have nipped that entire plot thread in the bud and have been, you know, intelligent.

The face-heel-turn isn't fair because it isn't established in any way. Had he only been shown when others could see and he was aware of who they were, then fine. Had he been torn up over what he felt he had to do to Anna and Elsa, then fine. He was, however, shown in at least one scene (been a while) where no one of note was around to see him (the entire 'running into Anna' scene both before he knew who she was and after she left) when he was shown to be good-natured at the very least, and when after the reveal he was downright cruel.

It's an interesting twist, to be sure, but it wasn't earned.

So, yeah, good show, but has snags.

 

[Cowabungaa]

I watched it a week or so ago and wrote a little thing about it on my Tumblr blog:

A refreshing, if slightly predictable, spin on the princess genre in terms of story. Interesting characters too overall. Animation-wise I was quite impressed with the snow effects, they were very good. Sadly it didn't hold up so well in other departments, especially the environments and textures looked rather lackluster. I had hoped for a more inspired, Scandinavian look. The costumes did look good in that regard.

Sadly I was most disappointed with the songs. I had, again, hoped for more Scandinavian influences but we ended up with rather generic American pop songs. I had hopes for more in general honestly. More character, like The Princess and the Frog had in spades. It didn't use its setting as well as it could have, hence why I don?t think it lives up to the hype surrounding it.

It was fun though, mind you, don?t get me wrong. I was just hoping for more.

What can I say, it just felt very lackluster and, well, safe in many regards.

 

[Random Argument Man]

It was good. It's not the "OMG IS DE BEST THANG EVUUUU" that everyone told me. I've skipped a few songs here and there. The first act was mostly composed of 90% just of songs. I like the twist and I like how they portrait some characters with the exception of that snowman. (LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! I'M ADORKABLE! AM I SO ADORKABLE?!) (Try imagining that with the Heavy Weapons Guy's voice from TF2).

Best thing was clearly the portrayal of the gender roles in this. The women were portrayed as capable. The portrayals we overlooked were some the male characters. Kristoph wasn't portrayed as the big strong man who clearly needs to be the big strong man. Sure, he tries to save the day. He tries to go kiss the princess, but he's ok about the fact that "the act of true love wasn't for him". That and the twist with Hans. Both characters showed the difference between an actual nice guy and the "nice guy" we loath.

 

[the27thvoice]

I thought it was good, even for a Disney movie, up there with Tangled for me, not quite Lion King or Beauty and the Beast. Songs were good, singers superb (I like Idina, OK?), plot refreshingly playing off my preconceptions of a story arc. Liked it on all levels, but didn't think it was quite as good as people made it out to be.

 

[Vault101]

What can I say, it just felt very lackluster and, well, safe in many regards.

Disney is practically the definition of "safe"

 

[Cowabungaa]

What can I say, it just felt very lackluster and, well, safe in many regards.

Disney is practically the definition of "safe"

True, but the last few years they made some interesting films. The Princess and the Frog for instance really upped the ante if you ask me, a truly great movie that made excellent use of its source material and setting especially in terms of music and art style. Wreck It Ralph did a lot of good stuff too.

Frozen did nothing of the sort, and that was a real shame considering what they could have done. At least the characters and story were good, but the rest was just mediocre.

 

[Woiminkle]

I thought it was a good movie, I took my 10 year old nephew to see it a week or so after release and the two of us enjoyed it immensely.
Ok I'm 34 so I didn't enjoy the snowman guy Olaf as much as he did but overall I thought it was really well done, loved the songs, visuals and story. Definitely worth the price of admission and the 3d glasses IMHO.

 

[Kotaro]

I loved the film. Disney's really been upping their game in the last several years with stuff like Tangled, The Princess and the Frog, and now Frozen.

 

[Vault101]

True, but the last few years they made some interesting films. The Princess and the Frog for instance really upped the ante if you ask me, a truly great movie that made excellent use of its source material and setting especially in terms of music and art style. Wreck It Ralph did a lot of good stuff too.

Frozen did nothing of the sort, and that was a real shame considering what they could have done. At least the characters and story were good, but the rest was just mediocre.

its a shame Princess and the Frog wasn't the kicker they hoped for

I haven't seen Frozen but I intend to...one thing I keep hearing is (for a disney film) it actually focuses on the females themselves rather than a relationship to a man, that is *something* at least

I loved the film. Disney's really been upping their game in the last several years with stuff like Tangled, The Princess and the Frog, and now Frozen.

tangled was the first disney film I watched in years..I enjoyed it but the mix of "modern" style and "traditional" style felt jarring to me..I would have prefered a full on musical

 

[Crispee]

Frozen was an amazing movie for what it DIDN'T do wrong, while still doing things right.

What I mean by that is...

Frozen could have EASILY been another 'crappy, sexist, Disney, princess movie'.
But, it wasn't.

The talking snowman COULD have been the most annoying character since Donkey or Na'vi.
But, he wasn't.

The 'we're gonna turn tropes on their head' COULD have come across as a bitter, sarcastic, jab at 'classic' Disney.
But they weren't, it was just a well executed 'gotcha'.

The score was great.
The voice acting was fantastic.
The graphic style felt like it belong.
The story was solid.
Even most of the 'Oscar bait' musical numbers weren't that bad.

Overall:
The best 'Disney' film since Lilo & Stitch.
-Unless you count Pixar stuff.

I agree, especially on your point about Olaf, I was prepared to despise Olaf because traditionally, Disney's none human sidekicks are pointless and really annoying, but Olaf managed to sidestep that by saying a lot of really funny things and then leaving for a few scenes before he got too annoying.

Don't quite agree on the part about turning tropes on their head, I really loved this film but I always felt that the revelation of

Spoiler

Hans being the true villain

was a bit too heavy handed and overpowering the original plot too much.

Everything else I agree with though.

 

[Tayh]

I found it underwhelming compared to all the hype.
I know I'm not the target audience, nor anywhere close to it(being a 28-year-old male), but I thought the story and build-up was weak.
I was hoping Elsa would finally do something with her powers, but nope! She just stays in her castle and dutifully waits for people to attack it.

It doesn't help that most of the marketing I saw for the movie made it out to be a movie about a clichéd, dumb-looking snowman and his friends - but I blame the marketing company for that.

 

[Coakle]

I really liked Frozen. It definitely had a weaker second half.

Spoiler: Frozen Spoilers

Hans turning evil was weird. Or being evil, whatever. Overcoming isolation was already a compelling obstacle, we didn't need a cackling bad guy to add drama. In fact, I would say that Hans made the movie less dark. It shifted focus away from the damage inflicted on people who care about you when isolation is used as a coping mechanism.

Elsa was great. I've never been so pissed off at a sympathetic character. Almost never, Seita(Grave of Fireflies) is currently the reigning champ. The way she lies to herself, ignores reality, and later feels trapped by her own hopelessness after her delusions crash down around her is phenomenal.

Frozen is pretty bleak. I don't think less of it from getting a classic Disney Happy Ending because it's still a kid's movie. If every movie was made for me, I would have preferred it to end with a scene where Elsa is gripping Anna's hand as they outside the castle gates.